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The had the USF Men's World Softball Championships in NEw Zealand back in March
16 teams from Around the world

Here is a clip of the finals between New Zealand and venezuela






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From World Championship in March



CLASSIFICATION POOL A
  GAMESRUNS
STANDINGTEAMPLAYEDWONLOSTFORAGAINST
1AUSTRALIA770485
2VENEZUELA7522817
3SAMOA7433125
4UNITED STATES7434225
5GREAT BRITAIN7342018
6CZECH   REPUBLIC7343738
7SOUTH AFRICA7251337
8INDONESIA7071468
       
CLASSIFICATION POOL B
  GAMESRUNS
STANDINGTEAMPLAYEDWONLOSTFORAGAINST
1CANADA7614312
2NEW ZEALAND7614312
3ARGENTINA752246
4JAPAN7524513
5COLOMBIA7341725
6MEXICO7251941
7NETHERLANDS7161457
8PHILIPPINES7071251

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Venezuela won the bronze over Australia 2-0

New Zealand won the gold over Venezuela 4-1...and their softball team is named the black sox and with some Maori they do this---

Black Sox do the haka ahead of their match against Colombia (Photosport)


Pan AM Games...alongside the women's fastpitch...we will see the men play.
How is the men's game? I cannot stand slowpitch--it is tee ball for adults. So interested in input on how that sport is doing and how it is played compared to baseball or women's softball?


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Team USA Women's Baseball Team
Anyone seen Team USa women play baseball?


#
Name
Pos.
B/T
Ht.
DOB
Hometown
8Veronica AlvarezCR/R5'6"04/07/83Miami, Fla.
2Jill BarrettIFL/R5'6"06/08/92Greenwood, Ark.
10Kayla BufardeciIFR/R5'9"06/10/94Castro Valley, Calif.
15Kristin CaldwellRHPR/R5'9"07/14/81Bear, Del.
28Samantha CobbIFR/R5'8"02/24/91Garland, Texas
5Caitlin EverettOFL/R5'9"11/16/90Sunnyvale, Texas
22Tamara HolmesOFS/R5'9"06/02/74Albany, Calif.
7Jennifer HunterRHP/IFR/R5'7"12/05/90Tarpon Springs, Fla.
9Anna KimbrellC/RHPR/R5'7"10/04/90Fort Mill, S.C.
3Natalie LandIFR/R5'7"10/06/89Mayo, Fla.
14Alexa MaldonadoOF/LHPL/L5'6"09/04/90Short Hills, N.J.
11Clarisa NavarroIF/RHPR/R5'4"02/11/92La Joya, Texas
4Bessie NollIF/RHPR/R5'11"09/17/95Minneapolis, Minn.
12Stacy PiagnoRHP/IFR/R5'9"03/07/91St. Augustine, Fla.
1Marti SementelliRHPR/R5'2"11/17/92Sherman Oaks, Calif.
18Michelle SnyderIFR/R5'7"04/04/87Wenatchee, Wash.
13Ashley SujkowskiRHPR/R5'7"09/11/90Rossford, Ohio
6Malaika UnderwoodIFR/R5'9"06/07/81San Diego, Calif.
19Mackenzie VandergeestCR/R5'7"11/25/81Newbury Park, Calif.
21Donna WilliamsC/RHPR/R5'9"11/21/91Fremont, Calif.

2012 Women's National Team Coaches
#NamePositionHometown
17Ruben FelixManagerEl Paso, Texas
23Jonathan PollardPitching CoachWoburn, Mass.
16Jenny Dalton-HillAssistant CoachLexington, Ky.
24Ed KurakazuAssistant CoachPhoenix, Ariz.







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fhoenix - Where do you get this stuff???  Nice crowd for the men's final, but of course New Zealand was in it.  Thank you for posting this.  I see that USA finished without a medal of any kind.  Ally Habetz, asst. softball coach at Bama (great person) played women's professional baseball more than a few years ago.  That team was coached by Phil Neikro, the old knuckleballer and, I believe sponsored by Coors, hence named the Silver Bullets.  I treasure a baseball card from DOLLY NIEMIEC, 2nd base and 3rd base and Hall of Fame as I had the pleasure of meeting and talking with her at Wide World of Sports in Florida where she was being feted by the Atlanta Braves.  She played from 1948 through 1952 for Chicago, Springfield, Grand Rapids, and GR/B.Creek/G.R.    I have also had the pleasure of meeting the catcher whose person was captured in League of Their Own.  She told me that she raced greyhounds and had to get special permission to call one Mickey Mantle.  Lots of terrific people out there.  Women's baseball, though in the background, has been around forever, at least since WW2 (A League of Their Own). "There's no crying in baseball".

Check out the pitching rules for men's fastpitch.  That could be something that NCAA could look into to lessen the IP debate.   Frank

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Yea...the womens baseball at pan am games will be like seeing a league of their own baseball game hitting, pitching and fielding scenes. I will watch. I am curious. Pitching, hitting and fielding on baseball field and running the bases etc. I will also watch the mens softball too.

Pan Am games is shaping up with lots of events I will watch as well as DVR. Both men and women softball and women's baseball and the sprinting events and equestrian .

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Team USA battles invisibility at home, is celebrated abroad

Since 2004, USA Baseball, operating out of its expansive, pastoral National Training Complex in Cary, North Carolina, has sponsored a women’s team chosen every two years, and sent to the biennial Women’s Baseball World Cup Tournament to face teams from around the globe. USA Baseball exists primarily to showcase the best amateur boys and men in international tournaments. They sponsor and fund a range of boys’ youth teams and the elite NCAA collegiate baseball team, which includes the nation’s most promising draft picks for professional baseball. For the women, Team USA holds a very different meaning. It is a brief interlude lasting a little more than two weeks every two years, and is the only nationally validated elite-level baseball available to them. For the women, playing on Team USA is akin to being in the Olympics: the highest achievement available in their baseball careers. But unlike Olympians, they remain unknown in the United States.

In 2010 thirty-two women were selected from throughout the United States at six regional tryouts, invited to the National Training Complex in Cary, and then culled to a team of 20 players in four grueling, 12-hour days in the August heat. They had only four more days to get to know each other before they flew to Caracas, Venezuela on August 10, to face ten teams, including the powerful Team Japan, whose members play as a team all year round.

Team USA: Clarisa Navarro and Tamara Holmes.
Team USA: Clarisa Navarro and Tamara Holmes.


When the 20 women who made the final cut arrived in Caracas for the fourth Women’s World Cup Tournament on August 12, baseball-crazy Venezuela greeted them with television cameras, paparazzi, lights, and microphones. A brass band burst into song, the players were showered in American flags, presented with flowers, and ushered into a press conference. Treated as interlopers all their lives in the States, in Venezuela Team USA was greeted like a major league team arriving for the World Series. The press conference for the Americans ended only when Team Cuba stepped off their plane. As Cuban flags began to appear in the reception area, the Americans were directed onto a bus, surrounded by a police and military escort, including members of the Venezuelan National Guard armed with AK-47s and wearing bullet-proof vests, and followed by an ambulance. USA Baseball had also sent two private security officers to travel with the team.


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San Marcos High School senior Ghazaleh Sailors will play as a relief pitcher and in the infield as a member of the USA Women's National Baseball team



Current USA Baseball women's team players Sarah Gascon and Bridget Venturi Veenema.

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In that last pic is Bridget Venturi Veenama.
Bridget Venturi Veenema


Back in the late 1989 I met her (Bridget Venturi) when she was a contestant in the second season of American gladiators. I was medical on set and busy every second. She was from Illinois and had just graduated from University of Michigan where she starred in both softball and Basketball. She won her season and won the battle vs the winne of the first season. And she came back for alma mater show.
She is 5'10 and tough as they come. I remember her playing for silver bullets back when there was pro baseball. Didn't know she played for team usa until last year and has 2 world cup gold medals in baseball.
Cool when I start recognizing some of the players and former players.


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the only name I'd heard of is Jenny Dalton-Hill.   It's cool that there is women's baseball.  I always enjoy watching re-runs of A League of Their Own.
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Vandergeest played at Arizona and was in the NPF for awhile.  
I remember watching the Coors Light Silver Bullets play baseball
quite awhile ago... 'pro' baseball for the ladies.. can't remember
how many teams that league had though.

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flow - If I remember correctly, the Coors Silver Bullets were a barnstorming team and not involved in a league.   Frank
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you sir.. are absolutely correct
and it was the Colorado Silver Bullets..
but still sponsored by Coors



http://www.coloradosilverbullets.org/


pretty good team..
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flow - Interesting sidebar - Ally Habetz ( I haven't talked with her in too long) who played on that team and is a great Bama assistant coach and person went to court in Louisiana to get the right to play high school baseball. She won that right for herself and others.   Her softball experience is collegiate.     Frank
PS - A great relationship she built up while playing for "The Bullets" was with the man she now calls "Uncle" Tom Lasorda.  

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Yes...they played against men's teams and their games were televised on ESPN or USA network.
I saw a few of the games in person and it was a "battle of the sexes" each time.
it had to sell that way since they were barnstorming---travelling place to place and you got to see your local amateur champion or all-star team of men face off against the top women baseball players in USA.

They were a professional baseball team but there was no women pro baseball league.
They played against non-pros and semi pro teams. Opponents included celebrity teams, police and firemen teams, lots of games versus military teams, all-star amateur teams, and they even played a Mexican team and the Australian Olympic baseball team. Summer Olympics were in their home base of Atlanta in 1996 and I remember them going to taiwan and playing for 6 days and playing several different Taiwan teams twice each and getting crushed in all of the games. Nomatter who pitched they got rocked. they would score 2 or 3 runs but give up 13 to 15.

They sold the sizzle not the steak.
Now with women pro baseball they are selling the steak. Selling you on women playing baseball versus women. Selling you on the sport not the "see the best women baseball players in usa versus Tinker AFB league all-stars" or "Top women baseball team vs Hollywood celebrity team". BUT.......It helped women sports in the long run.

The best women were not as strong as men, could not throw as hard or fast, were not as fast nor with as much homerun power but they were as skilled--this include track and field sprinters, and basketball too...Brittney griner is not physical enough and strong enough to hang with pro men but she could hang with an amateur team of army guys. The top women could not compete against pro baseball players since they were already losing 67% of their games to men's amateur teams that were not even a, aa, or aaa quality. They lost to military teams and firemen. They lost a lot more games than they won...BUT the did win, were entertaining, and had skill. The cream of the crop top 2-3 pro baseball women could make rosters in minor league. I remember a pitcher did get her shot. She was hit hard by the minor leaguers and that was that. A woman knuckleballer could make it. Some women have had good showings but not consistently good enough or we would be hearing about them.

They set the foundation for what we are seeing now...women baseball back in the sports mix for pan Am games. I will watch.

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I also remember them playing some 18 and under boys all-star team and a few players on each team talking smack back and forth and when the pitcher hit a silver star player that had been involved in the back and forth trash talk she started a bench clearing brawl.
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USA Men's fastpitch Softball Wins PanAm Qualifier

USA scored six runs in the fifth inning -- all with two outs -- to rally from a four-run deficit and defeat Canada 6-5 in the Gold Medal Game of the Pan Am Games Qualifier in Guatemala City, Guatemala, Mexico. The win gives USA the No. 1 seed at next summer's Pan Am Games.

Canada jumped out to a 4-0 lead with a pair of two-run innings in the second and third. Evan Potskin led off the top of the second inning with a home run, while triples by Darrell Sandback and Terry Challis highlighted the third inning.

Canada starting pitcher Dean Holoein held USA to three hits through four innings and retired the first two batters, the Nos. 8 and 9 batters in the lineup, in the bottom of the fifth before USA exploded.

USA scored two runs on four consecutive singles by Ehren Earlywine, Kerry Shaw, Shawn Rychick and Ross Dey to cut the lead in half. Todd Budke followed with a two-run double to tie the game 4-4. Budke advanced to third on a passed ball and scored the go-ahead run on Mike Dryer's RBI-single. After Adam Lalonde walked, Todd Garcia singled to plate Dryer and give USA a 6-4 lead. Garcia was the eighth consecutive batter to reach base in the inning.

Canada scored in the top of the sixth off USA reliever Michael White, but White retired the side in order in the top of the seventh to seal the victory and the Gold Medal. Starting pitcher Doug Gillis pitched five innings and earned the win. USA posted a 14-1 record at the Qualifier


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fhoenix - NICE !!!   Thanks fir the report.      Frank
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