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This does not look like much of a plan to me.  I just don't see much here.

Also, like always, it seems like a government big-biz plan, at the expense of small-biz.  When I hear politicians talk about changing things to benefit small biz, I grab my wallet, because it ALWAYS costs me money.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I am hoping we can have substantial, apolitical discussion on it, so here goes my take.

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Here are the major parts of the tax-reform framework released on Wednesday by the White House and Republican leaders of the congressional tax-writing committees. The full document is available here

TAX RELIEF AND SIMPLIFICATION FOR AMERICAN FAMILIES

Over the last decade too many hard-working Americans have struggled to find good-paying jobs, make ends meet, provide for their families and plan for their retirement. They are the focus of this framework. Strengthening and growing the middle class, and keeping more money in their pockets, is how we build a stronger America. By lowering the tax burden on the middle class, and creating a healthier economy, we can give American families greater confidence and help them get ahead. At the same time, taxpayers deserve a system that is simpler and fairer. America’s tax code should be working for, not against, middle class families. 

“ZERO TAX BRACKET”

Under the framework, typical middle-class families will see less of their income subject to federal income tax. 

 

 

The framework simplifies the tax code and provides tax relief by roughly doubling the standard deduction to:

 

$24,000 for married taxpayers filing jointly, and

$12,000 for single filers.

To simplify the tax rules, the additional standard deduction and personal exemptions for the taxpayer and spouse are consolidated into this larger standard deduction. This change is fundamental to a simpler, fairer system.

In combination, these changes simplify tax filing and effectively create a larger “zero tax bracket” by eliminating taxes on the first $24,000 of income earned by a married couple and $12,000 earned by a single individual.

This appears to create a larger aggregate exemption amount.  However, I am not clear on whether this replaces itemized deductions, because the above says "deduction", not exemption. 

Do we know?

INDIVIDUAL TAX RATE STRUCTURE

Under current law, taxable income is subject to seven tax brackets. The framework aims to consolidate the current seven tax brackets into three brackets of 12%, 25% and 35%.

Typical families in the existing 10% bracket are expected to be better off under the framework due to the larger standard deduction, larger child tax credit and additional tax relief that will be included during the committee process.

An additional top rate may apply to the highest-income taxpayers to ensure that the reformed tax code is at least as progressive as the existing tax code uh oh and does not shift the tax burden from high-income to lower- and middle-income taxpayers.

The framework also envisions the use of a more accurate measure of inflation for purposes of indexing the tax brackets and other tax parameters. excuse me?

ENHANCED CHILD TAX CREDIT AND MIDDLE CLASS TAX RELIEF

To further simplify tax filing and provide tax relief for middle-income families, the framework repeals the personal exemptions for dependents and significantly increases the Child Tax Credit. The first $1,000 of the credit will be refundable as under current law.

In addition, the framework will increase the income levels at which the Child Tax Credit begins to phase out. The modified income limits will make the credit available to more middle-income families and eliminate the marriage penalty in the existing credit.

The framework also provides a non-refundable credit of $500 for non-child dependents to help defray the cost of caring for other dependents.

Finally, the committees will work on additional measures to meaningfully reduce the tax burden on the middle-class.

have to look at this more - not sure if it's positive or not - not clear on the impact of this.  However, when combined with the above, may not be.

INDIVIDUAL ALTERNATIVE MINIMUM TAX (AMT)

The nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) Taxpayer Advocate have both recommended repealing the AMT because it no longer serves its intended purpose and creates significant complexity. This framework substantially simplifies the tax code by repealing the existing individual AMT, which requires taxpayers to do their taxes twice.

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ITEMIZED DEDUCTIONS

In order to simplify the tax code, the framework eliminates most itemized deductions, but retains tax incentives for home mortgage interest and charitable contributions. These tax benefits help accomplish important goals that strengthen civil society, as opposed to dependence on government: homeownership and charitable giving.

this could be painful to many people - sounds like a tax increase to me

WORK, EDUCATION AND RETIREMENT

The framework retains tax benefits that encourage work, higher education and retirement security. The committees are encouraged to simplify these benefits to improve their efficiency and effectiveness. Tax reform will aim to maintain or raise retirement plan participation of workers and the resources available for retirement. 

"the committees are encouraged" - ok, so this whole section means nothing.

OTHER PROVISIONS AFFECTING INDIVIDUALS

Numerous other exemptions, deductions and credits for individuals riddle the tax code. The framework envisions the repeal of many of these provisions to make the system simpler and fairer for all families and individuals, and allow for lower tax rates.

sounds like an increase

DEATH AND GENERATION-SKIPPING TRANSFER TAXES

The framework repeals the death tax and the generation-skipping transfer tax. 

good.  one of the most unfair taxes ever

COMPETITIVENESS AND GROWTH FOR ALL JOB CREATORS

Small businesses drive our economy and our communities, and they deserve a significant tax cut. This framework creates a new tax structure for small businesses so they can better compete. Furthermore, America’s outdated tax code has fallen behind the rest of the world – costing U.S. workers both jobs and higher wages. In response, the framework puts America’s corporate tax rate below the average of other industrialized countries and promotes greater investment in American manufacturing.

TAX RATE STRUCTURE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES

The framework limits the maximum tax rate applied to the business income of small and family owned businesses conducted as sole proprietorships, partnerships and S corporations to 25%. The framework contemplates that the committees will adopt measures to prevent the recharacterization of personal income into business income to prevent wealthy individuals from avoiding the top personal tax rate.

S corps elect to be taxed as an individual, or as a C corp.  I don't see how this does anything.

TAX RATE STRUCTURE FOR CORPORATIONS

The framework reduces the corporate tax rate to 20% – which is below the 22.5% average of the industrialized world. In addition, it aims to eliminate the corporate AMT, as recommended by the non-partisan JCT. The committees also may consider methods to reduce the double taxation of corporate earnings.

not sure about this one either.  as a c corp owner, I have never paid these high corp taxes.  maybe the big guys do.

“EXPENSING” OF CAPITAL INVESTMENTS

The framework allows businesses to immediately write off (or “expense”) the cost of new investments in depreciable assets other than structures made after September 27, 2017, for at least five years. This policy represents an unprecedented level of expensing with respect to the duration and scope of eligible assets. The committees may continue to work to enhance unprecedented expensing for business investments, especially to provide relief for small businesses.

"immediately ... over 5 years" makes no sense.  if it could be 1-2 years, like the globalist cuck W did, then it would spur the economy.  5 years - doesn't do much for small biz.  Then again, maybe this isn't about small biz.

INTEREST EXPENSE

The deduction for net interest expense incurred by C corporations will be partially limited. The committees will consider the appropriate treatment of interest paid by non-corporate taxpayers.

totally meaningless double-speak, that says "we aren't doing anything"

OTHER BUSINESS DEDUCTIONS AND CREDITS

Because of the framework’s substantial rate reduction for all businesses, the current-law domestic production (“section 199”) deduction will no longer be necessary. Domestic manufacturers will see the lowest marginal rates in almost 80 years. In addition, numerous other special exclusions and deductions will be repealed or restricted.

The framework explicitly preserves business credits in two areas where tax incentives have proven to be effective in promoting policy goals important in the American economy: research and development (R&D) and low-income housing. While the framework envisions repeal of other business credits, the committees may decide to retain some other business credits to the extent budgetary limitations allow.

sounds like a hike, but wouldn't affect my small biz.  also, that phrase again - committees may.

TAX RULES AFFECTING SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES

Special tax regimes exist to govern the tax treatment of certain industries and sectors. The framework will modernize these rules to ensure that the tax code better reflects economic reality and that such rules provide little opportunity for tax avoidance. 

so, they'll pick different winners and losers

THE AMERICAN MODEL FOR GLOBAL COMPETITIVENESS

The framework puts America on a level international playing field and puts an end to the incentives for shipping jobs overseas.

maybe I missed that in the above non-plan

TERRITORIAL TAXATION OF GLOBAL AMERICAN COMPANIES

The framework transforms our existing “offshoring” model to an American model. It ends the perverse incentive to keep foreign profits offshore by exempting them when they are repatriatedto the United States. It will replace the existing, outdated worldwide tax system with a 100% exemption for dividends from foreign subsidiaries (in which the U.S. parent owns at least a 10% stake).

To transition to this new system, the framework treats foreign earnings that have accumulated overseas under the old system as repatriated. Accumulated foreign earnings held in illiquid assets will be subject to a lower tax rate than foreign earnings held in cash or cash equivalents. Payment of the tax liability will be spread out over several years.

don't see anything in these 2 paragraphs that accomplish the stated goal

STOPPING CORPORATIONS FROM SHIPPING JOBS AND CAPITAL OVERSEAS

To prevent companies from shifting profits to tax havens, the framework includes rules to protect the U.S. tax base by taxing at a reduced rate and on a global basis the foreign profits of U.S. multinational corporations. The committees will incorporate rules to level the playing field between U.S.-headquartered parent companies and foreign-headquartered parent companies.

uh oh - protectionist programs, if the "committees" can do anything about it.



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From 2009-2017, federal revenue went from $2.100T to $3.315T, $2.16, $2.30, $2.45, $2.775, $3.021, $3.25, and $3.268 in-between.  This was an average revenue increase of 6.6% annually.  We'll see if tax cuts grow revenue at a greater rate than 6.6%.  If they grow at 5% annually going forward, there will be those who say, "See, tax cuts increase revenue".  I would see it as lost revenue.

In the past, GOP tax cuts have been much like a pyramid scheme.  Americans today end up with more money and Americans who come in later, not so much.  Those late to the game generally see greater Government debt, along with greater interest obligations, wiping out any tax savings.  Several years ago we gave ourselves tax cuts and today our kids owe $20T.  Now are kids will receive their own current day tax cut and their kids will soon see a debt of $30+ Trillion.  I only hope somewhere along the way we find a way to pay for the modernization this Country so dearly needs.

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