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mikec

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Someone also vandalized a statue of Father Junipero Serra here in California.


dang it, was just gonna post that.  they get stupider and stupider.
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fresh with a glib response to this question. punk.

This statue destruction is going to be a very large nail in the coffin of the dem party. Sjw's on here babbling about how it's not the dems, or it's somehow justified, falls on deaf ears. Go ahead and tear down some of the heritage of this country. The price to be paid will be much higher than you expect.


Destroying the heritage(to use your word) of people trying to secede from our country. These were traitors. States rights doesn't allow a group to just declare they are no longer a part of the country. I find it odd that you, so called, patriots have so much fondness for these treasonous figures. You only revere them because they come from a time when white politicians could say, in your face ni***r and get away with it. The history and heritage remain, only the symbols of discrimination are being removed.
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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Destroying the heritage(to use your word) of people trying to secede from our country. These were traitors. States rights doesn't allow a group to just declare they are no longer a part of the country. I find it odd that you, so called, patriots have so much fondness for these treasonous figures. You only revere them because they come from a time when white politicians could say, in your face ni***r and get away with it. The history and heritage remain, only the symbols of discrimination are being removed.

Why even bother posting under 2 names?

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dang it, was just gonna post that.  they get stupider and stupider.

What the hell did Serra do?  The mans a f'n Saint for Christ sakes. 

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What the hell did Serra do?  The mans a f'n Saint for Christ sakes. 


Who defaced his statue?
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Converted Indians to Christianity.  Of course, he also defended their rights, but that's besides the point.


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What the hell did Serra do?  The mans a f'n Saint for Christ sakes. 
mikec

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There is nothing in the Constitution to prevent a state from seceding.

In fact, the Declaration of  Independence lays out that government is created by men, and can thus be uncreated by men, when it becomes oppressive to the point that it no longer serves the purpose of the governed.

But of course, you want to slander men living 150 years ago, since they aren't around anymore, and you have no desire to actually understand anything, then go right ahead.


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Destroying the heritage(to use your word) of people trying to secede from our country. These were traitors. States rights doesn't allow a group to just declare they are no longer a part of the country. I find it odd that you, so called, patriots have so much fondness for these treasonous figures. You only revere them because they come from a time when white politicians could say, in your face ni***r and get away with it. The history and heritage remain, only the symbols of discrimination are being removed.
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It was the ultimate check and balance against what they perceived as an overly intrusive federal government

Of course Fresh would use it as a chance to race bait instaed if attempting to see it from a different angle. He never misses a chance to use that dog whistle.
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What he fails to understand is that I could use the N word indiscriminately as a kid, and no one cared.

I had black friends that called me that, and I said it back sometimes.

In my day, that word was used more as low-rent trashy person than color.  My friends would use it like they would use trailer trash.

You better believe I heard it a lot on the football field.

So, if I wanted to "relive some magical days when white men could use the N-word at will", all I have to do is think back to my childhood.

That work becoming the third rail of white shame happened when rap came along.  It's recent that it became a "bad" word.

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It was the ultimate check and balance against what they perceived as an overly intrusive federal government Of course Fresh would use it as a chance to race bait instaed if attempting to see it from a different angle. He never misses a chance to use that dog whistle.
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Mr Smalls - Republican.

Republican = Party of Lincoln.  The party was formed to end slavery.  

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They're running out of Confederate statues already, so what do they do?  Attack the Unknown Soldier statue, of course.

https://www.news-journal.com/news/2017/may/02/veterans-plaza-statue-destroyed-teague-park-longvi/
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What happened to "move them to cemeteries"?  In this case, a cemetery for 2,200 Confederate soldiers who died in a POW camp on the site.


http://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/confederate-statue-toppled-over-in-west-columbus-cemetery
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They're running out of Confederate statues already, so what do they do?  Attack the Unknown Soldier statue, of course.

https://www.news-journal.com/news/2017/may/02/veterans-plaza-statue-destroyed-teague-park-longvi/


Has anyone been charged? Who did it?
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What happened to "move them to cemeteries"?  In this case, a cemetery for 2,200 Confederate soldiers who died in a POW camp on the site.


http://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/confederate-statue-toppled-over-in-west-columbus-cemetery


Has anyone been charged? Who did it?
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You can't be that dumb.  Nobody on the right would ever desecrate the cemetery of our fallen soldiers.  Get real.  This is pure Antifa, alt-left at work.
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OK, you guys are hopeless. You see a desecrated monument and, since you want it to be one of your enemies......voila', it is. You can't see the logical delimma here? No wonder you have such a profound, illogical hatred for these people. It's not bad enough that some of them are extremists, doing wrong,you project every civil injustice on them. Hopeless.
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Hey you POS. Guess what. There is black and white, right and wrong, moral and immoral. You leftist scum spend your days twisting and spinning to perpetuate your lies and BS.
Go F yourself and your friend Bamatard. The country has no use for your kind as history will ultimately show.

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I was talking with some liberals on FB, and there are some who actually think we should take down monuments to Washington and Jefferson too (so it's not just about those who fought against this country apparently).
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Leftist freak out and ESPN has to move an announcer named Robert Lee from UVa (Charlottesville) to keep from trigging retards.

Robert Lee is fu'in Asian.  You just cannot make this up. 

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How is Silent Sam, an unidentified UVa student - confederate soldier a symbol for racism?  Why they want to tear this one down?  Fresh tells they are only going after symbols of racism and oppressive symbols.  

This statue represents the 40% of the UVa student body that went off to fight in the war.  Some for the north.  Some for the south.  

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Point of clarification - they were fighting FOR their country.



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I was talking with some liberals on FB, and there are some who actually think we should take down monuments to Washington and Jefferson too (so it's not just about those who fought against this country apparently).
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They attacked the freedom statue in Atlanta.  It is a statue of a soldier, with an angel behind him, telling him to put down his arms, and join the cause of justice or something or other.

Of course, it had to go.
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I don't condone destruction or removal of these statues by anyone but the local governing body. This was an ill advised action that should be condemned. The statue is a symbol of peace and reconciliation, not racial injustice. Here's a comment from the AJC I thought was interesting:

A protester was hurt by metal falling from the edifice as the group tried to tear it down, AJC photographer John Spink reported Sunday night. Tensions rose as the lone policeman on the scene was surrounded by black-clad Antifa protesters shouting “pig.” Black Lives Matter protesters put themselves between the police officer and the Antifa crowd, and the gathering soon dispersed.
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BLM is not a single nor homogeneous group. Some cells realize that unlawful actions are counterproductive and they'll get more $upport by acting responsibly. Other cells are still hardcore militants. IMO both have some anti-police members wanting to defund and disband police.
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Of course they do. There are fringe members of any group that have a different agenda. Focusing on these members, holding them up as the norm is disingenuous. The common BLM member is concerned about fair treatment by law enforcement. I probably disagree with you, so let me go ahead and say my previous statement is either ignorance or a lie. 
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Of course they do. There are fringe members of any group that have a different agenda. Focusing on these members, holding them up as the norm is disingenuous. The common BLM member is concerned about fair treatment by law enforcement. I probably disagree with you, so let me go ahead and say my previous statement is either ignorance or a lie. 

Shame on you for mischaracterizing my post - the whole point of my post was clearly "BLM is not a single nor homogeneous group." 

Added: My post was clearly the opposite of what you said. SMH
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hands up, don't shoot.

wait, nevermind, that actually never happened
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