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Fake news
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So all you have now is a two word retort to any post that you disagree with?
Maybe the Lyme disease has already started eating your brain. Tick, tick, tick

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New science that the leftists won't be able to comprehend.  It appears that it was warmer during medieval times.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2017/08/big-data-finds-the-medieval-warm-period-no-denial-here/

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What method of measurement was used? What temp in Antarctica? Iceland? Greenland? I won't go to the site as you must register and I don't trust them. Were there record highs for 16 years out of a 17 year period? 
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What method of measurement was used? What temp in Antarctica? Iceland? Greenland? I won't go to the site as you must register and I don't trust them. Were there record highs for 16 years out of a 17 year period? 


All these questions remind me more of dewy everyday.  Do your research old man and get off the grown folks discussion.  Until you learn how to do internet research I would suggest that you quit embarrassing yourself.

Have a seat at the ............



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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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What method of measurement was used? What temp in Antarctica? Iceland? Greenland? I won't go to the site as you must register and I don't trust them. Were there record highs for 16 years out of a 17 year period? 


The methodology is every bit as legitimate as the hocus-pocus that is used to "predict" future temperatures - every one of those predictions has been wrong.

Google "global temperatures graph" and then select Images.  What you'll see is a ton of graphs, mostly showing increasing temperatures since 1880 but many showing no noticeable change at all.

The larger point is that just like "hands up, don't shoot", the term "settled science" is complete BS.  It is used to justify the new religion of man-made global warming - not one shred of evidence can link recent climate change to human activity.  The global warming nuts are just trying to bully everyone else.  And who has profited from that bullying - nobody more than Al Gore himself.  It is estimated that Al Gore's net worth is between $200 million and $300 million.  In 1999, his net worth was $1.7 million.
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The methodology is every bit as legitimate as the hocus-pocus that is used to "predict" future temperatures - every one of those predictions has been wrong. Temperature prediction is pretty damned accurate if you ask me. They are not relying on projections, but actual data. 16 of the last 17 years were record highs. This type of global measurement could not have been done in medievel times.

Google "global temperatures graph" and then select Images.  What you'll see is a ton of graphs, mostly showing increasing temperatures since 1880 but many showing no noticeable change at all. What possible reason do most of the scientists that measure such things have to lie? I don't get it. 

The larger point is that just like "hands up, don't shoot", the term "settled science" is complete BS.  It is used to justify the new religion of man-made global warming - not one shred of evidence can link recent climate change to human activity.  The global warming nuts are just trying to bully everyone else.  And who has profited from that bullying - nobody more than Al Gore himself.  It is estimated that Al Gore's net worth is between $200 million and $300 million.  In 1999, his net worth was $1.7 million. I have heard he's only worth about 10 million and he left office worth about 21 million.

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You are really lazy.

Google "incorrect climate predictions" and you get 395,000 results.

What reason do the scientists have to lie?  It's easy.  They all think the same way so they are more than happy to manipulate the data.  Think NOAA and East Anglia.  Why did they change the data?

From BankRate.com - not a political entity.  http://www.bankrate.com/lifestyle/celebrity-money/al-gore-net-worth/

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Maybe....I actually just think you're full of the alt-right, everything is not as it seems crowd's bullsh1t. Go ask Bill Nye what he thinks.
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Bill Nye the guy who isn't actually a scientist but plays one on Tv?
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Yep.
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Googling "medievel global warming" returns lots of results - from both sides. This MIT review provides good info about the controversy - https://www.technologyreview.com/s/402357/medieval-global-warming/.
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I am not ignoring this. I am trying to read it with an open mind. The first time I felt it supported my position. The second time, not so much. Puts a lot of doubt to me on the methodology of recreating global temperatures during medievel times. The author obviously has doubts, but seems to support global warming stemming from co2 emissions.
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Maybe....I actually just think you're full of the alt-right, everything is not as it seems crowd's bullsh1t. Go ask Bill Nye what he thinks.


Your casual labeling of me as somehow related to the alt-right shows your intellectual laziness, ignorance and stupidity.  I suggest you spend a few days going through all the posts here over the past half dozen years and see if you can label anyone here as alt-right.

Bill Nye is an actor.  He knows nothing.  Funny how you dismiss Charles Barkley as speaking on behalf of blacks but somehow fantasize about Bill Nye being an actual scientist.
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I checked out Barkley, did you check out Nye? Doubting global warming is one similarity
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I know all about Bill Nye.  He's a kook, just like Al Gore.
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You are really lazy.

Google "incorrect climate predictions" and you get 395,000 results.

What reason do the scientists have to lie?  It's easy.  They all think the same way so they are more than happy to manipulate the data.  Think NOAA and East Anglia.  Why did they change the data?

From BankRate.com - not a political entity.  http://www.bankrate.com/lifestyle/celebrity-money/al-gore-net-worth/



Let's assume making money means you are a lying manipulator of facts. What does that make Trump? More money, more lies? I made up my numbers. They are irrelevant. 
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That's how it goes these days.  Earlier, someone on twitter said I was a trumpie Nazi.  Well, actually I've gotten that a lot the past week.

Agree with me - or you're alt-right or a Nazi.

I guess racist must be getting old.


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Your casual labeling of me as somehow related to the alt-right shows your intellectual laziness
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I'm still waiting for those quotes where I supported antifa violence. That was a pretty specific allegation.
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Let's assume making money means you are a lying manipulator of facts. What does that make Trump? More money, more lies? I made up my numbers. They are irrelevant. 


You've learned well from Dewey.  If you want to comment on Trump, go to that thread.

Here, in this thread, Al Gore is a self-serving liar who has built a mass fortune on a lie.

You tried to say he's only worth $10 million and I showed you how wrong you are.  If you had any character, you'd admit it.
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I'm still waiting for those quotes where I supported antifa violence. That was a pretty specific allegation.

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No one cares about incremental rises or falls in temperature.  They have been happening for millions of years.  Volcanic activity, sun activity are likely larger drivers than human activity.

We should all still do everything economically reasonable to curb our impact on the environment.   Wind, Nuclear, electric car, hydrogen fuels, bio created fuels, the technologies and opportunities remains great.  Continued core physics/math/technology investments at our universities via research grants.  Get technologies ready for market then help private capital take them to market. 

That still does not mean we have to subjugate ourselves to a whacky form of global socialism.   

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I am not ignoring this. I am trying to read it with an open mind. The first time I felt it supported my position. The second time, not so much. Puts a lot of doubt to me on the methodology of recreating global temperatures during medievel times. The author obviously has doubts, but seems to support global warming stemming from co2 emissions.

Try reading it again - maybe third time's the charm...

The author clearly believes in those methodologies.

- His point was they have to be done correctly.

For earlier eras, we depend on indirect estimates called proxies. These include the widths of tree rings, the ratio of oxygen isotopes in glacial ice, variations in species of microscopic animals trapped in sediment (different kinds thrive at different temperatures), and even historical records of harbor closures from ice. Of course, these proxies also respond to other elements of weather, such as rainfall, cloud cover, and storm patterns. Moreover, most proxies are sensitive to local conditions, and extrapolating to global climate can be hazardous. Chose [sic] the wrong proxies and you’ll get the wrong answer.

- He bases his opinion on it.

Let me be clear. My own reading of the literature and study of paleoclimate suggests strongly that carbon dioxide from burning of fossil fuels will prove to be the greatest pollutant of human history. It is likely to have severe and detrimental effects on global climate. I would love to believe that the results of Mann et al. are correct, and that the last few years have been the warmest in a millennium.

Love to believe? My own words make me shudder. They trigger my scientist’s instinct for caution. When a conclusion is attractive, I am tempted to lower my standards, to do shoddy work. But that is not the way to truth. When the conclusions are attractive, we must be extra cautious.

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Need to get my pitch count up before Bamaturd logs in and doesn't see my name. It would be horrifying. Al Gore bores me

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Al Gore bores Al Gore...........
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