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woody

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I can only assume that a majority of people that don't vote, but instead take time out of their day to protest, and offer "resistance" didn't watch.
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What killed Democrats last night was their petty insistence on not standing for moments that all Americans should cherish and celebrate.  They think they were making it about Trump when what most people saw was a group of people who don't care about American success.

I think the American people will remember this in November.


No wonder Terp wants to make this about viewership and less about the substance and how immature and childish that her elected officials pout and sulk in the corner and obstruct MAGA

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2016 - 31.3M  Obama
2015 - 31.7M  Obama
2014 - 33.3M  Obama
2013 - 33.5M  Obama
2012 - 37.7M  Obama
2011 - 42.8M  Obama
2010 - 48.0M  Obama
2009 - 52.4M  Obama

Wow, with terp's analogy, people cared less and less with curious george and his repetitiveness

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Obama was in over his head, and many stopped listening to the Socialist message he regurgitated whenever a camera was locked in on him. The only brief respite was when the teleprompter either broke, or he was forced to ad lib. That's when the stammering started. It was proof that he was ill prepared for the office he held. Trump on the other hand seems very well adapted at bullsh*tting his way out of a public speaking nightmare.
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Obama was in over his head, and many stopped listening to the Socialist message he regurgitated whenever a camera was locked in on him. The only brief respite was when the teleprompter either broke, or he was forced to ad lib. That's when the stammering started. It was proof that he was ill prepared for the office he held. Trump on the other hand seems very well adapted at bullsh*tting his way out of a public speaking nightmare.


You know better than this. trump's worst situations are created when he goes off his prepared text. In the famous televised bipartisan discussion on DACA, he was clueless about the direction the conversation was going. Pelosi made the point we should handle DACA as a seperate issue and in that trump world where he only hears what he wants to hear, he heard her want to include his other initiatives. Had to be called down and told what she said. There is little hope for somebody like that.

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I-44 out of OKC is a toll but I think it is state run. That one has always baffled me. It is listed as an Interstate. How does part of it become a toll road especially when it’s pretty much the only route to Tulsa.


This has been very controversial.  Some years ago (can't remember exactly when - 6 or 8 I think), the federal law changed to allow states to put tolls on interstates.

Those roads have been bought and paid for a long time, so there is usually public pushback over it, but they do it anyways to raise money.
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Coach - there are a few more privatized roads - I didn't list them all.

Woody - that company from Spain is the world's major financier for roads and transit.  They do just what you described.  I have worked with them on two projects - both in the $4 billion range - and their business view was 100 years.  If it takes 50 years to develop the land and make money, they are OK.

On the two projects I worked on, both ended up being canceled by the gov't when they realized they had to give up complete control.  One was a toll road, and the other was a high speed rail.

There's a Chinese company, and I think an Italian also.  Between them, they do almost all of it.
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Terp, you liberals shouldn't watch Trump's speeches..........They spell doom for the liberal way-of-thinking you and Freshy live yall's life by............

Us Patriots have bushwhacked the liberal grip this country has been in with Obama's Muslim administration.........What I mean is, we took back our country from you freaks............America is trending back to the traditions and customs that made this country great...........

Queer-marriage and abortion will, hopefully, very soon be a bad part of a bad dream in America's past history..........


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Terp, you liberals won't watch Trump's speeches..........They spell doom for the liberal way-of-thinking you and Freshy live yall's life by............

Us Patriots have bushwhacked the liberal grip this country has been in with Obama's Muslim administration.........What I mean is, we took back our country from you freaks............America is trending back to the traditions and customs that made this country great...........

Queer-marriage and abortion will, hopefully, very soon be a bad part of a bad dream in America's past history..........




FIFY - this is the only reason Trump's numbers are lower than previous presidents.  The sniffling, emotional liberals won't watch.

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Music from somewhere in the background                                               
do de da da.........do de da da.....................

TFH=Twilight Zone.

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I wish you'd just come out and say what you feel sometime....

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Terp, you liberals shouldn't watch Trump's speeches..........They spell doom for the liberal way-of-thinking you and Freshy live yall's life by............

Us Patriots have bushwhacked the liberal grip this country has been in with Obama's Muslim administration.........What I mean is, we took back our country from you freaks............America is trending back to the traditions and customs that made this country great...........

Queer-marriage and abortion will, hopefully, very soon be a bad part of a bad dream in America's past history..........


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Mike, I'll try to be more specific in my posts.........


I, also, should mention that standing for the National Anthem is a requirement for anyone who isn't anti-American.............Not standing is a definite sign of being a traitor to America............
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Blue's ramblings are so bizarre.

Terp, you liberals shouldn't watch Trump's speeches..........They spell doom for the liberal way-of-thinking you and Freshy live yall's life by............

Us Patriots have bushwhacked the liberal grip this country has been in with Obama's Muslim administration.........What I mean is, we took back our country from you freaks............America is trending back to the traditions and customs that made this country great...........

Queer-marriage and abortion will, hopefully, very soon be a bad part of a bad dream in America's past history..........

Where does this sh1t come from???????????? Lives in an alternate universe. I am as much a patriot as any of you. Questioning my patritism is a putrid example of his closed minded approach to life. My way or the highway(to hell). Homosexuals deserve every right and privelege given to hetros. It is becoming obvious that homosexuals have very little choice in their sexuality and it doesn't really matter who you sleep with, as long as they are a consenting adult. I understand his abortion position.
Obama was not a Muslim.
Blue lives in the fifty's. 

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It is becoming obvious that homosexuals have very little choice in their sexuality............... 


Wrong, Freshy..........It's just becoming obvious that you and some others don't wanna take responsibility for your actions..........It's a snowflake mentality that's spreading in America..........And, a very dangerous mentality for the future of our country...........


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I have voted for Republicans who have character and honor, or who wanted to make the country better.


Terp, you have not..........You voted for folks who filled their pockets with money at our expense..........Let's get real in here...........

And, don't give me that it was Reagan............Ever hear of Iran-Contra?........Reagan's administration secretly sold arms to Iran during an arms embargo and imported drugs from Colombia............Bush, Sr. was later elected President and pardoned everyone who got convicted...........During the Reagan administration, Bush, Sr. was VP and head of the drug commission...........All a bunch-of-crooks...........
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Fresh - please know that blue is the only one that believes most of what he says.
Your patriotism is not in question. People can love our country and have different views on how to make it even better.
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Wrong, Freshy..........It's just becoming obvious that you and some others don't wanna take responsibility for your actions..........It's a snowflake mentality that's spreading in America..........And, a very dangerous mentality for the future of our country...........




I have been a responsible adult since leaving high school and becoming a young father at 19. I have always provided for my family and never taken a dime of government assistance. I do not, however, mind providing a portion of my taxes to help the underpriveleged. I have been self employed since 1978 and know a little bit about what responsibility is.
Closed minded bigots like yourself are what bog a country down. You are not subject to change. Your unrelenting, inflexible opinions are not likely to sway anbody not already as screwed up as you, so I recommend you keep your opinions of me to yourself. I will do likewise for you.

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He never disappoints.....

“Thank you for all of the nice compliments and reviews on the State of the Union speech. 45.6 million people watched, the highest number in history,” Trump tweeted. “@FoxNews beat every other Network, for the first time ever, with 11.7 million people tuning in. Delivered from the heart!”

But according to widely-shared Nielsen numbers released Wednesday, Trump’s first State of the Union was not the most watched in history.

In fact, as Fox News pointed out after Trump’s tweet, it wasn’t particularly close, with the three presidents who immediately preceded Trump each delivering State of the Union Addresses watched by more than 45.6 people.

Fox News Research @FoxNewsResearch

#SOTU TV Viewers:
2018: 45.6M
2017: 47.7M*
2016: 31.3M
2015: 31.7M
2014: 33.3M
2013: 33.5M
2012: 37.8M
2011: 42.8M
2010: 48.0M
2009: 52.4M*
2008: 37.5M
2007: 45.5M
2006: 41.7M
2005: 38.4M
2004: 43.4M
2003: 62.1M
1993: 66.9M* (largest TV audience)

*Not an official SOTU

The data released by Nielsen doesn’t include the number of people who streamed the speech online — but that’s also the case for previous years.


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He never disappoints.....

“Thank you for all of the nice compliments and reviews on the State of the Union speech. 45.6 million people watched, the highest number in history,” Trump tweeted. “@FoxNews beat every other Network, for the first time ever, with 11.7 million people tuning in. Delivered from the heart!”

But according to widely-shared Nielsen numbers released Wednesday, Trump’s first State of the Union was not the most watched in history.

In fact, as Fox News pointed out after Trump’s tweet, it wasn’t particularly close, with the three presidents who immediately preceded Trump each delivering State of the Union Addresses watched by more than 45.6 people.

Fox News Research @FoxNewsResearch

#SOTU TV Viewers:
2018: 45.6M
2017: 47.7M*
2016: 31.3M
2015: 31.7M
2014: 33.3M
2013: 33.5M
2012: 37.8M
2011: 42.8M
2010: 48.0M
2009: 52.4M*
2008: 37.5M
2007: 45.5M
2006: 41.7M
2005: 38.4M
2004: 43.4M
2003: 62.1M
1993: 66.9M* (largest TV audience)

*Not an official SOTU

The data released by Nielsen doesn’t include the number of people who streamed the speech online — but that’s also the case for previous years.


Salty content.  I like it.  Keep it coming.  

If I were you I would never slow down, think for a few seconds, just maybe.  Trump makes these somewhat bombastic statements to get you to retweet/post/yell about it for hours.   Over and over you guys go with "OMG! no really OMG!! Drumpf says he had highest number of viewers for SOTU ... <blah> <blah> <blah>"   

And when you deliver for him, he wins.

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Batsh!t Crazy


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Salty content.  I like it.  Keep it coming.  

If I were you I would never slow down, think for a few seconds, just maybe.  Trump makes these somewhat bombastic statements to get you to retweet/post/yell about it for hours.   Over and over you guys go with "OMG! no really OMG!! Drumpf says he had highest number of viewers for SOTU ... <blah> <blah> <blah>"   

And when you deliver for him, he wins.


It's awesome and she doesn't even realize it.  Bluedog does the same thing on this forum and I get a kick out of it here also.  Really got the freshyturd stirred up

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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You think freshy is ready for tomorrow?  Or like most days just stumbles through it unaware. 
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I guess none of you who opposed DACA care about trump's proposal to provide CITIZENSHIP to 2 million illegals - 2 or 3 times the number of DACA kids.

UWA wasn't here when we were talking about this stuff, so I don't know how he felt about this prior to trump becoming a fan.
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I guess none of you who opposed DACA care about trump's proposal to provide CITIZENSHIP to 2 million illegals - 2 or 3 times the number of DACA kids.

UWA wasn't here when we were talking about this stuff, so I don't know how he felt about this prior to trump becoming a fan.


I want a wall mike and always have.  I always knew some of those 11-13 million [fictitious numbers] would be granted immunity from prosecution or deported, I just knew it.  Your pick for President wouldn't have deported either.  hilLIARry would have looked to legalize all 20 million of them as dewy and freshyturd would prefer.  I'll take the hit, lick our wounds for the wall.  Yes, I still believe he'll get a large portion of the wall

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Not an equivalent comparison.  In fact, I believe the trend this past year is that more and more are turning to streaming.  While not an expert on this, within the last year, half of my classes have changed over to streaming.  I know because I asked a couple of months ago when my cable bill went up again.  I don't know the difference of how many watched the SOTU Speech between Obama and Trump but I would suggest it is substantial.  Nielsen will no longer matter as this trend continues.  


Might be for unique programming or if away from the big screen at home, but with it playing on every major network simultaneously, I'd say a vast majority watched on a standard feed.

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It was apparently important to trump, so I don't want him getting credit for 1 person that didn't watch. 
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I guess none of you who opposed DACA care about trump's proposal to provide CITIZENSHIP to 2 million illegals - 2 or 3 times the number of DACA kids.

UWA wasn't here when we were talking about this stuff, so I don't know how he felt about this prior to trump becoming a fan.

I would like to see them go. 

More importantly I really think bringing in more now is super unfair.  A total and complete burden on the hard working American taxpayer, and a total drain on the American poor.

There is a political reality here.  Jack booted thugs kicking in dreamers doors and hauling them off is going to go over like a thud. 

To me it comes down to details.

Some of these dreamers have great computer science degrees, doctors degrees, and other highly advanced degrees.  Some have started highly successful businesses that employ people.  Would be a shame to have a knee jerk reaction and deport successful smart people.

Some of these dreamers are criminals.  Deport them yesterday.

Some of the dreamers are low level losers that sound like freshy.  Just living off the state, never work, just lay about the cabin.  Deport them.

The inbetween one are going to be a bit more difficult.

Anyway, Dreamers no longer matter.  It has all already played out.  That was all a BS bluff by the Dems.  Turns out they only care about all 30 million (or whatever the number is).  We knew it the whole time.  They are not going to implement any reasonable immigration security and keep their sanctuary city and sanctuary state nonsense going. 

We are headed, head long for a shutdown as we speak.  Shumer is going to prostate himself in front of Trump.  Trump is going to mount him and light him up. 

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It was apparently important to trump, so I don't want him getting credit for 1 person that didn't watch. 


Trite

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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"I would like to see them go."


Trying to understand the Right's view on immigration, I read the followup to this sentence as wishing all the DACA kids would be deported but, doing so, would be bad for the GOP.  The first conclusion apparently was "let's not do it because of the political consequences".  Later, it appeared this changed to a desire to allow some of the talented dreamers to stay and to deport the rest.  That appears to be a different position from favoring all must go.  Which is the true position if politics weren't an issue?

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Politics is the issue.  I think you over medicate some evenings.
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