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cash

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My daughter was getting ready to sign her NLI from a D2 school and that coach changed her offer to a dollar... Why would a coach like that do that? 
Stretch

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There are way too many missing elements for anyone to answer that.
BigTenSoftball

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Why don't you ask the coach instead of getting speculation from here?
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I had a similar thing happen. Mine was committed to a D1 and the coach that recruited her was forced to retire. The new coach who came from a D2 brought 11 of his recruits including his daughter. We did not find out until the NLI came in that he had reduced her from 60 to 20. He did not answer any of my calls nor emails. I finally heard back from the AD and he tried to say his paperwork showed 20 and that paperwork was given to him by the old coach. We simply de committed and went the JUCO route. She popped back into the D1 scene after playing two years for free. Save your daughter some heartache and find a coach that will treat her right and make her feel wanted. JMHO!!
cash

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The coach told my daughter to sign and that she will up her money in the spring... This coach is crazy and the AD won’t answer my calls... 

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I have a real hard time believing they sent out an NLI for a dollar ($1.00).

That would mean the compliance office, the athletic administration, and the financial aid office all signed an NLI that was awarding $1.00 !?!?!?!???
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Not a good way to start a college career. I agree with previous poster that there must be more to the situation. 

So who is this crazy Coach & School?
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I have a real hard time believing they sent out an NLI for a dollar ($1.00). That would mean the compliance office, the athletic administration, and the financial aid office all signed an NLI that was awarding $1.00 !?!?!?!???
Anyone else's daughter gotten an LOI with a dollar amount on it -- any dollar amount???
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Anyone else's daughter gotten an LOI with a dollar amount on it -- any dollar amount???


Aren't percentages typically used?
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Aren't percentages typically used?
My experience
Nextyear

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They can assign any dollar amount as well. It doesn't have to be a percentage.
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Seems like a lot more math to determine what the scholarship percentage is year to year, but ok
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The coach told my daughter to sign and that she will up her money in the spring... This coach is crazy and the AD won’t answer my calls... 



Tell the coach she will sign in the spring when the money grows on trees........ then don't answer their calls, look elsewhere. JuCo is a great option as stated earlier. If a coach will do this to you now, what will he do when you are signed?
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Seems like a lot more math to determine what the scholarship percentage is year to year, but ok


They take a certain percentage say one 20% portion and carve that amount up to kids for book money. It allows kids to have a small monetary amount to sign a NLI.
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Yes, but if the flat amount is .20 one year, it is slightly less the next year... Math gets more complicated
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Anyone else's daughter gotten an LOI with a dollar amount on it -- any dollar amount???


Yes
scfastpitch

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My daughter was getting ready to sign her NLI from a D2 school and that coach changed her offer to a dollar... Why would a coach like that do that? 


I had a baseball coach tell me he always offered a dollar amount instead of a pct when he could . Dollar amt stays the same when tuition goes up . 
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My daughter's offer showed line items, with dollar amounts. When asked how we could know if they would cover the actual amount of say, books, we were told the dollar amount was for accounting purposes only. The key was the particular item mentioned was covered. This proved to be true. We never paid for anything itemized in the offer. This was an ACC school.
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I would not sign any NLI for $1 - once you sign a NLI you’ve committed to the school on their terms and trying to get released would be difficult. That is a rotten tactic by the coach and I would stay as far away from that program as you can. Go the JUCO route and find a better situation with a team in the future. Hopefully one in the same conference as the scumbag coach who sent you the NLI for $1 so you can show them what a mistake they made.
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Another thing to consider, was this player a guaranteed “walk on”? Sometimes a kid will be offered a spot as a walk on but when they see all their friends “signing” want to sign too. The coach then draws up an NLI for one buck so the kid can go to a ceremony and sign the paperwork in font of their school mates. This situation sounds like something was offered but the other situation happens from time to time.
What school?
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I had a baseball coach tell me he always offered a dollar amount instead of a pct when he could . Dollar amt stays the same when tuition goes up . 


Slightly off topic but the lowest amount of any D1 Baseball Scholarships is 25%. Coaches just can't hand out 5 or 10% anymore to get a bunch of kids on the team. And the only sports where all the players are on 'full rides' are Football, Mens/Womens Basketball & Womens Volleyball. 
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Slightly off topic but the lowest amount of any D1 Baseball Scholarships is 25%. Coaches just can't hand out 5 or 10% anymore to get a bunch of kids on the team. And the only sports where all the players are on 'full rides' are Football, Mens/Womens Basketball & Womens Volleyball. 


Yeah , I guess the original poster was referring to  " one dollar " instead of " dollar amount " , it just reminded me of that quote from the baseball coach to " always offer a dollar amount instead of a pct " . This was about 10 years ago before the 25% minimum was put in . It was also before the so-called 4-year scholarships for power 5 schools . The team he was at then had a policy that an athlete would always receive at least as much as they were offered as a freshman . Of course , if tuition and other expenses went up the star players might get their dollars increased , but for the bench-warmers the coaches could just say they were getting what they were promised . By the way , that coach is head coach at an ACC school now , and I would probably trust him as much as any other head coach .  
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And the only sports where all the players are on 'full rides' are Football, Mens/Womens Basketball & Womens Volleyball. 


The above is incorrect. Ask me how I know.

Bill Smith
Varsity Tennis Coach
Burlingame High School

Correct list of sports would be: football (DI big boys only, FBS), basketball (DI men & women) as well as, tennis, gymnastics and volleyball (all DI women only)

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The above is incorrect. Ask me how I know.

Bill Smith
Varsity Tennis Coach
Burlingame High School

Correct list of sports would be: football (DI big boys only, FBS), basketball (DI men & women) as well as, tennis, gymnastics and volleyball (all DI women only)
Yeah.

Now ... EVERY scholarship in those sports is a full.

But, yes, despite a sport being an 'equivalent' sport, a 100 percent can be handed out in softball
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3leftturns-

100% = pitchers. Have known very few full ride position players.

Unless the term 'off campus full' is being used. All the money needed but at 75% (or less) due to an entitled athletic department.

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I think the recruiting game in softball would be so much easier if it was an all or nothing sport. No arguing with the coaches regarding what you think they promised and what they say they promised. There really would be no cutting of scholarships because you'd have to go from getting a full ride to getting nothing. That would be the same as being cut from the team basically. Lot less chance of true misunderstandings and lot less chance of manipulated misunderstandings.

I doubt it will ever happen, just think it would be easier. Of course, I know there's a case to be said that the kids benefit from being able to receive 50% instead of nothing. I'm just saying it would be easier and cleaner without much he said/she said! 
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The above is incorrect. Ask me how I know.

Bill Smith
Varsity Tennis Coach
Burlingame High School

Correct list of sports would be: football (DI big boys only, FBS), basketball (DI men & women) as well as, tennis, gymnastics and volleyball (all DI women only)


BillSmith,

How do you know?
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Unless the term 'off campus full' is being used. All the money needed but at 75% (or less) due to an entitled athletic department.
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How do you know?


I read a lot.

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Assume you are not familiar with off campus-full. I know the practice exists elsewhere as I describe, not heard an actual assignation of term.

In the case I am most familiar, athletic department owned 'villas' that housed many of the student-athletes. Believe they had to rent to the general student population to avoid NCAA compliance issues. However, the bottom line was athletes had VERY cheap room and board available through this practice. Kids paid for school tuition, book, lodging, eats, etc. and often had money left over from less than a full scholarship.

Hence the term. All costs 100% covered, though the team only dinged less than 100%.

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How about the 12 hour full?
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