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pabar61

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Dewey - thanks for the instruction.  It's always nice to be reminded that liberals love to tell others what to do and how to do it.
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pabar - Yes, when it comes to characterizing me, (you see how you grouped all Liberals together), I do tend to tell folks they should consider another option.  And that doesn't mean calling people ignorant or creepy.
keepinitreal

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yet to have one honest criticism of Obama.  He lied about NSA.  He has done nothing about the Benghazi massacre.  His hands are dirty on the IRS scandal.  He supports an AG who is lawless.  He has provided over the weakest recovery ever (that there was a recovery at all in spite of his policies is a miracle).  His foreign policy doesn't exist which has dramatically lessened our standing in the world.


very clear, very persuasive

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sbmom1812

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Nice pabar right on the nose.  I think if he were pinochio his nose would reach around the world by now with all the lieing he has done.  He talks like a centrist and governs like a communist.  Dictating with no deference to law or constitution.  And Reid and Holder accomodate his every whim.
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Question: if Obama is so bad and ignorant, then why does'nt someone do something to get him deposed ???????
in my view is that he is half black, but all blacks consider him full black thus they will always support him. In addition you have white liberals such a Dewey that will support him all the way.
so let's pray God that his remaining presidential time will be over soon.
but the problem will continue as most likely Hillary will be chosen next.
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Nice defeatest attitude Hammer.  You doing anything to try to make sure she doesnt win?
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sbmom, unfortunately I or  all of us connot do anything on who should be our next president.
the election is run by the background people in charge of computerized election system.
how would you be certain that the election votes are the real numbers.
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Pabar - I agree with you what makes a strong President. Basically, it takes conviction and character.

I guess I just don't know enough about Cruz yet, or even Paul for that matter.

The fact is, someone needs to put us straight.
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I don't mean this as cynically as it sounds (OK, maybe I do), but hasn't Ted Cruz been a Senator for like a couple hours or so?

What has this guy actually done?

The love affair with him scares me.  He needs to show me something before I get too interested.



Please listen to any of his speeches, and compare it to any other politician. This guy would absolutely make hamburger of most any other politician in a debate. This is why I said that the Dems don't want him on a Presidential ballot.

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sbmom1812

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Mikec- I agree there is much more to learn about these two.  But first impressions, especially of Cruz are good.  Woody yes people should listen to speeches, but thats how alot of people got in trouble with Obama, taking speeches at face value.    Unlike Obama, however, It would seem on surface examination that Cruz does what he says, etc...where Obama is a liar and manipulater thru and thru with every speech.  Lots more vetting to do.  But lets go work for the 2014 takeover of the Senate so we can get rid of this crap that obama and his cronies are killing the country with, obamacare in particular.  It is causing alot of harm to people in many ways.
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Well, fortunately, the election isn't tomorrow.  I will start to learn more about the candidates as they actually become candidates.  I don't particularly want to invest lots of time now researching people who may or may not be a candidate later.

Lazy, I guess.

I will heed your words though Woody.  I guess I am cautious about people lining up so completely behind someone so early.  On the other hand, I suppose that's part of how candidates are born.
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Mike - you're right, we need time.  But thanks to the media, the discussion has already started and we're in an election cycle far too soon.

I guess what i'm saying is that at this point in time, I feel that Cruz is one of the very few people in politics who genuinely cares about how far we've strayed from the Constitution and the damage that is being done to this country.  KIR's funny cartoon says it all - we can't count on Lindsey Gramm and John McCain anymore.

But the reality is that the 2014 midterms are far more important than 2016.  The Republicans could end up controlling two houses or none or it could stay as it is now.  Anything is possible right now.  But if we can control both houses, maybe Gramm and McCain will find their backbones again.
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Cruz does indeed appear to be a Constitutional Conservative, and a nightmare for Socialist Democrats to openly debate. I think that Graham and McCain should be challenged in the  primaries, and ran on a rail up to the Northeast bastion of RINO failures. They are spineless RINO politicians, who have sold out their constituency for power, and wealth. I as a Constitutional Conservative don't wont compromise, if compromise means I have to abandon my principals, and from the onset submit to the mindset that says my principals are wrong, and I must adapt and adjust to the Liberal PC mindset. I don't see Liberals compromising, on the contrary, they attack and denounce Conservatives as evil rich white racist, that don't want to give their income to the downtrodden socialist poor. Well, at least they got one assumption right..
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For lack of a better word you can call McCain and Graham Rinos but to me they have voted extreme left and sometimes right.  They are definitely selfish opportunist politicians getting rich and taking advantage of their constituency,  just like Bill and Hillary.  They are still fleecing people with their foundation, even though neither one holds office.  They even have included Chelsea in the foundation and fleecing now, since her stint at NBC didnt work out well.
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McCain should just go ahead and either change parties , or go independent. Olympia Snow should do the same. They certainly are not Republicans, as they tend to side with the opposition party. Why not go ahead and make it official? If you side with the other party, join it, own it.
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I think snow is retiring.  remember though, she is from maine and it is allrelative since they are a NE liberal state.  She calls herself repub because she is right of extreme left, but she has voted with the extreme left.  McCain would never get elected unless he didnt lie to his constituents.  He was primaried last time and had a fairly tough primary, but you know how incumbency goes.  I think there will be several senate repubs primaried.  I know McConnell has a primary foe.  She seems to be a decent person with surface look but how good a politician she is only time will tell. Ive heard McConnell is already bringing out the dirt.  I think Graham is being primaried too.  Not sure about the rest.
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With all due respect, if there is anything Sen. Cruz has said that Rep. Ron Paul hasn't already expressed in years past, I'd sure like to read about it.  From all I can gather, there is not one bit of change involved here...only some renewed hope.  Maybe I'm wrong.
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I agree pabar - 2014 is a critical first step, and one that must succeed.
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Dewey, you wouldnt see it if it smacked you in the face.  Its on the RIGHT.
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Dewey, Rand Paul is Ron Paul light. Cruz is more of a communicator out of the Reagan mold. You as a Democrat should focus all of your efforts to defeat him now. He will be a populist candidate, and I predict he is the most problematic candidate for democrats to face and debate. You are better off promoting Christie and demonizing Cruz. Win or lose, Christie is in your camp. Cruz intends to burn your camp to the ground.
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I understand Sen Cruz done good on CNN Sunday morning. Movement picking up steam. #defundobamacare
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http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/cruz-dont-attack-syria/2013/08/26/id/522351
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I signed at about the 250K mark.  Who else?  if you don't stand now, then I doubt that you stand at all.  some of them were elected because they said they wanted to change the washington way.  Who, queried jersey guy, will bell the cat?  The answer, Ted Cruz and Mike Lee are trying to bell the cat.  John McCain, most atypical of the 'washington way', way.  John Cornyn you better back up what you  said you wanted to have done with obamacare.  Michael Berry for one will blast you from Texas if you lose your spine.
 
Help us reach 1 million petitions to defund Obamacare.
Can't read this email? Click here.
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Fellow Conservatives:

DontFundObamacare.comThis is Ted Cruz.

I have great news to share. Over 900,000 freedom-loving Americans have now signed the petition to defund Obamacare!

But, we need 1 million to truly send a signal to Washington that we want Obamacare defunded.

If we work hard, we can accomplish this goal by Labor Day.

Please help us reach 1 million signatures by forwarding this email to your friends and family. Encourage them to join hundreds of thousands of other Americans who are expressing their opposition to Obamacare at DontFundObamacare.com.

Then, spread the word by sharing it on your Facebook and Twitter accounts.

If we work together, we can reach 1 million signatures and send a message to Washington that can't be ignored.

We can stop Obamacare, but we need a grassroots tsunami to do it.

There are far too many Republicans scared of the fight, but together we can unite Republicans to stop this huge train wreck.

Thank you for standing strong for freedom.
 
Sincerely,
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author,

someone can add Louie Gohmer to great conservative candidates on the horizon.  The man has been there and done it.  From a veteran, to a judge, to a member of Congress.  What a great Texan and a great American.  Ted Cruz could be named DOJ head.  That would be cool

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real - A great Texan and a Great American - Isn't that a conflict of interest??  Frank
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JG - Forgive me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing it's much too early for you to have solidified that strong connection to Governor Christie that others may have found with their favorites.  Then again, perhaps you're there already.  If so, you certainly have a feel as to how I can understand the thought process behind kiir's admiration for those he supports. 

It is indeed extremely satisfying to stand up and throw your support behind a Representative/candidate who shares your views and concerns for this great Country.  Regardless of what those personal views may be, standing up is far better than standing down.  It remains my hope that all citizens find similar satisfaction in supporting candidates of their choice, and never allow obstacles, voting or otherwise, to reduce their political participation.  Similarly, I hope no citizen ever allows what may often be some very difficult discourse to turn them off from getting/remaining politically engaged.  Maybe this isn't the best place to make this case but I truly believe, in the long run, you'll find an involvement in the politics of our Country to be personally rewarding.
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real - A great Texan and a Great American - Isn't that a conflict of interest??  Frank


Not if he is a great Texan, first and foremost, it's not.  That's how we roll, but when someone doesn't feel strongly enough for their state to live in it then I can see how you would be conflicted. joisey guy in florida, that's conflicted

If Ted Cruz is director of DOJ then there can be room for Christie at the FDA, he can sample all the food

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keepinitreal

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Did I hear that Rand Paul is proud of the POTUS for his latest decision on Syria?  I was a hawk until Iraq and Afghanistan made us all war weary, besides this country never finishes what it starts so it was all a waste IMO.  Tired of the nation building abroad when the libs have so many ways to spend our money domestically.  Stop the madness.  I thought many on this site said that we no longer need to be the world's police force.  No one appreciates us and we spend way too much money policing the world.  Will Rand or obama benefit more by the endorsement by Rand of the decision to go to congress for a buy-in?
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