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keepinitreal

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– Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) said she was “very concerned that [Obama] may have anti-American views.” [10/17/08]

and you deny that???

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DC  - do you think it would be at all challenging to find equally heinous things said about Bush by Democrats?
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Liberals far down the rabbit-hole will be surprised by this, as was the Yale professor who conducted the study, and who will probably be fired from the university tomorrow.

Yale Professor's Surprising Discovery: Tea Party Supporters More Scientifically Literate

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/10/87474-yale-professors-surprising-discovery-tea-party-supporters-scientifically-literate/

Ex: ( from the professor)
"I’ve got to confess, though, I found this result surprising. As I pushed the button to run the analysis on my computer, I fully expected I’d be shown a modest negative correlation between identifying with the Tea Party and science comprehension.

But then again, I don’t know a single person who identifies with the Tea Party. All my impressions come from watching cable tv — & I don’t watch Fox News very often — and reading the “paper” (New York Times daily, plus a variety of politics-focused internet sites like Huffington Post & Politico).

I’m a little embarrassed, but mainly I’m just glad that I no longer hold this particular mistaken view."
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His report ALSO says -

"In this dataset, I found that there is a small correlation (r = -0.05, p = 0.03) between the science comprehension measure and a left-right political outlook measure, Conservrepub, which aggregates liberal-conservative ideology and party self-identification. The sign of the correlation indicates that science comprehension decreases as political outlooks move in the rightward direction--i.e., the more "liberal" and "Democrat," the more science comprehending."

And regarding the Tea Party results -

"Again, the relationship is trivially small, and can't possibly be contributing in any way to the ferocious conflicts over decision-relevant science that we are experiencing."

"Next time I collect data, too, I won't be surprised at all if the correlations between science comprehension and political ideology or identification with the Tea Party movement disappear or flip their signs.  These effects are trivially small, & if I sample 2000+ people it's pretty likely any discrepancy I see will be "statistically significant"--which has precious little to do with "practically significant"."


And there are other articles and research conclusions that say otherwise about the Tea Party.  Just a couple of examples -

http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/2011/09/08/science-the-tea-party-and-the-dunning-kruger-effect/

"Tea Party members are much more likely to say that they are “very well informed” about global warming than the other groups. Likewise, they are also much more likely to say they “do not need any more information” about global warming to make up their mind."

"Tea Party members are more than twice as likely than any other group to say they don’t want to change the light bulbs in their house to energy-efficient compact fluorescent lights (CFLs)."

"Tea Party members are far more likely to have heard about the “climategate” email controversy (45%) than Republicans (20%), Independents (27%), or Democrats (16%)."

"Democrats are more likely to believe that human beings evolved from earlier species of animals (62%), compared to Independents (57%), Republicans (51%), and Tea Party members (34%)."

"The one that stood out like a sore thumb was the response from the Tea Party segment that said they did not need any more information to make up their mind."

"In other words, they know all they need to know, and they are very certain of their position. It’s also noteworthy that only 34% of tea party members believe global warming is happening. This is perhaps the most amazing result when you consider the absolute mountain of scientific evidence that indicates their position is dead wrong."


http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/22/poll-tea-party-opinions-of-global-warming-evolution-problematic-for-gop/

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cathie-adams-finds-proof-grover-norquist-secret-muslim-you-see-he-has-beard

http://climatecrocks.com/2013/02/19/study-links-tobacco-tea-party-climate-denial-and-fox-news/

And don't forget Tea Party members' assertions that a woman cannot possibly get pregnant from a rape.....

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And don't forget Tea Party members' assertions that a woman cannot possibly get pregnant from a rape.....


You're not getting away with that.

One fool running for office said something stupid.  Republicans ran from him, and he lost his election.

He was not, in any way, any kind of a spokesperson for the Tea Party, or for Republicans.

Nice try.
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The Soros monkeys jumped on that story real quick. Can't have anything like that left out there without grasping refutations.
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If any Tea Party candidate actually becomes the candidate in 2016, the Dem will get 320 EV, minimum.
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And the "Million" Vet March didn't appreciate Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin and the Tea Party taking over their "protest" -

http://1mvetmarch.wordpress.com/

UPDATED: Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:35 PM EST – The political agenda put forth by a local organizer in Washington DC was not in alignment with our message.  We feel disheartened that some would seek to hijack the narrative for political gain. The core principle is about all Americans honoring Veterans in a peaceful and apolitical manner.  Mr. Cruz, Ms. Palin and some attendees, including political parties may have not been aware of the goals of the marches which took place in over 60+ rallies across the nation.  Please check our Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/pages/Million-Vet-March-on-the-Memorials/539097822833735.


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Oh, come on, mikec, have you forgotten so quickly?  Many Republicans were turning off voters with their comments on rape, abortion, contraception and other private matters -

Indiana State Treasurer and US Senate nominee Richard Mourdock, who said that life was "something that God intended", even if the pregnancy was due to rape

Fellow Republican Representative Phil Gingrey, who is also an obstetrician, said Akin's comments were "partly right" when he said women's bodies can avoid pregnancy in cases of rape

Gingrey also said he found nothing wrong with distinguishing "legitimate rape" from non-legitimate rape, which he defined as a false accusation

Pennsylvania Republican Senate candidate Tom Smith on August 27, 2012 how, considering his no-exceptions anti-abortion stance, he would tell a daughter or granddaughter who had been raped that she must keep the pregnancy. Smith said that he had been in a similar situation because his daughter had become pregnant out of wedlock. He said that he was not equating the two situations but that a father's position was similar.

Wisconsin State Assembly member Roger Rivard became the subject of controversy in October 2012 because of his 2011 comment about a case against a high school senior for raping a 14-year-old girl. He said that when he was a teenager his father had warned him that, "Some girls rape easy"

On October 18, 2012, Republican Representative Joe Walsh said that due to scientific advances, an abortion is no longer necessary to save the life of the mother and that he therefore opposed policies that would allow a woman to have an abortion if pregnancy endangered her life.

John Koster, a Republican congressional candidate in Washington's 1st District, was asked after a campaign fundraiser on October 28, 2012, about exceptions from abortion prohibition for rape and incest victims. He said, "Incest is so rare, I mean, it's so rare ... But the rape thing—you know, I know a woman who was raped and kept the child, gave it up for adoption, and she doesn't regret it." He added, "On the rape thing, it's like, how does putting more violence onto a woman's body and taking the life of an innocent child that's a consequence of this crime—how does that make it better? You know what I mean?"

While the Texas House debated an anti-abortion omnibus bill for 15 hours Sunday night, Rep. Senfronia Thompson (D) called for an exemption for victims of rape and incest, the Associated Press reported. Rep. Jodie Laubenberg (R) objected, saying "rape kits" make that exemption unneccessary:  "In the emergency room they have what's called rape kits where a woman can get cleaned out," [Laubenberg] said, comparing the procedure to an abortion. "The woman had five months to make that decision, at this point we are looking at a baby that is very far along in its development."

Ms. Barnes echoed Mr. Akin's statement that very few rapes resulted in pregnancy, adding that 'at that point, if God has chosen to bless this person with a life, you don't kill it.'"  (Sharon Barnes, Missouri Republican Party Committeewoman)

Rebecca Kleefisch, Wisconsin Lieutenant Governor - "Rape is a rape. I don't know how you can categorize it, and it's disgusting that Todd Akin would have tried to categorize it [Informed that Paul Ryan had co-sponsored a bill that would have distinguished "forcible" rape] I think there is a way to have a more forcible rape, the same way there are different types of assault."

Arizona Republican Representative Trent Franks - "The incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low"

Idaho Senator Chuck Winder - I would hope that when a woman goes into a physician, with a rape issue, that that physician will indeed ask her about perhaps her marriage, was this pregnancy caused by normal relations in a marriage, or was it truly caused by a rape."

Texas gubernatorial candidate Clayton Williams - "Rape is kinda like the weather.  If it's inevitable, relax and enjoy it."

Foster Friess, donor to pro-Santorum Super PAC - “On this contraceptive thing, my Gosh it’s such [sic] inexpensive,” he added. “You know, back in my days, they used Bayer aspirin for contraception. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn’t that costly.”

Rick Santorum told the Christian blog Caffeinated Thoughts that as president he would warn the nation about "the dangers of contraception" and the permissive culture it encourages. "Many of Christian faith have said, `Well, that's OK. Contraception is OK,'" he said. "It's not OK. It's a license to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be. ... If it's not for purposes of procreation, then you diminish this very special bond between men and women."

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And these people are all Tea Party Representatives?

I don't think so.

Shall I post 1,000 stupid quotes from your Dem friends?
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Still DC or Dewey won't respond to the comment Harry Reid made about Obama.  DC, what do you have to say about that?  Remember, light-skinned with no Negro dialect?  DC, what do you think about your racist Senate leader.

As Mike said, there are plenty of comments the Democrats have made that we could quote.  Don't forget that the Democratic party is the party of Robert KKK Byrd and the Democratic Party is the party that had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the era of civil rights.

The reality is that the Democratic Party is racist - they want to do whatever they can to keep minorities on the government dole to insure their continued power.  That is why they have people actively trying to sign people up for food stamps and why they want to legalize 11 million illegals (and get them on the Democrat voter rolls) and why they don't want to make people show ID in order to cast their ballots.
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And, the Republicans let 'em do it.....They always cave-in and make deals.....They're all crooks...All of 'em!!...And, they'll be re-elected over and over.....
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real - Bachman is more than two bubbles right of center and looking back. Strange person.      Frank



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After the "settlement", how many representatives of the people got their geography a boon????  Way to go (R) Mitch McConnell - it's "The Washington Way".  Ideals and the spirit of '76 are for the "great unwashed" like us on UCS to debate.       Frank
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"I call Texas and raise you Kentucky".  Sure, but what do we do about Chicago and also that Hispanic immigration stuff??  How many votes do you think are there in that group in 2014 and 2016?  I wonder how many defeated politicians will become influence peddlers for the big corporations and big unions after having learned how the game is played??         Frank
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"Do not try to teach pigs to sing. It will frustrate you and infuriate the pigs who will unite in anger against you, and you will never achieve singing your song". Dr. Petersen
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I just read (with graphs to illustrate)  that by far the USA leads the world in creating Rich People.  Why is that not surprising when laissez fire capitalism is instigated for just that end and wealth flows upward (not trickle down) in capitalism.  Citizens of the USA must decide if that distribution of wealth is all right with them or whether Stewardship plays a part in being an American.     Frank
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"Do not try to teach pigs to sing. It will frustrate you and infuriate the pigs who will unite in anger against you, and you will never achieve singing your song". Dr. Petersen
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Yes, mikec, actually most of them are Tea Party supporters.  You can post stupid Dem comments if you like, I'm sure there are many.  But you insinuated in your post that ONE fool running for office said something stupid.  I just pointed out that there were MANY fools saying stupid things.  You said I couldn't get away with my statement, but I'm supposed to let you get away with yours?

As for Harry Reid, do I approve of what he said?  No, it wasn't very astute of him to use those terms.  Do I think he's a racist?  No.  Does his use of those terms surprise me?  Given his age and background, not really.

These articles sum up my feelings pretty well -

http://www.volokh.com/2010/01/11/harry-reids-light-skinned-negro-dialect-comments/

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0110/Harry-Reid-racist-or-political-realist

http://www.theroot.com/views/was-harry-reid-right

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ok..so we are all in agreement that most of what we think about other groups of people is based on what we hear, read, see online or in media.
These "cherry-picked" samples do not represent the whole of a group---afterall you can find an extreme case within any group or highlight an incident involving that group as if it is how they are 24/7.
Like finding the only 1 or 2 people at a rally with a confederate flag and spotlighting that as if everyone attending is same as that person with the flag.
When I was little I remember a uncle complaining that every time media showed up to an incident they would pass up all the average dressed well-spoken and intelligent blacks and find the nappy haired jive talking uneducated one to do the interview with about what had just happened (sports event, natural disaster, politics, media drama from a local incident, plant closes, etc).
Interviews, polls, surverys, reports, etc. can show what you want them to show based on questioning---like asking a guy how long he has cheated on his wife. He hasn't but you ask the question since it has no yes or no answer. Plus when another media picks up the story they wonder why he was asked about cheating on his wife and that becomes a story...a story based on you just asking him that question to get a response.
And if other media can use your report or results they will...otherwise they ignore them or denounce them. If they like the results their audience hears about it otherwise no.
Everyone out there in politics and media has an agenda--we are merely pawns as they compete against each other. Pawns and lemmings.


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And these people are all Tea Party Representatives?

I don't think so.

Shall I post 1,000 stupid quotes from your Dem friends?


No need, just watch the nightly news.
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real - Bachman is more than two bubbles right of center and looking back. Strange person.      Frank




Do you always respond to my posts 7 days later?  Makes for a strange conversation

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When I was little I remember a uncle complaining that every time media showed up to an incident they would pass up all the average dressed well-spoken and intelligent blacks and find the nappy haired jive talking uneducated one to do the interview with about what had just happened (sports event, natural disaster, politics, media drama from a local incident, plant closes, etc).


Funny, I always say thought about things that happen here in the south too.

They find the one dude with a huge beer belly, wearing a Budweiser of South is Gonna Rise Again shirt, with not teeth, that didn't finish third grade, and named Bubba.  Remarkably, there seems to be one of these folks around.

Anyways, it always amazes me that this particular person is the one always interviewed, when there are thousands of other options.

Like you said, I suppose it makes the world go round.
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I just read (with graphs to illustrate)  that by far the USA leads the world in creating Rich People.  Why is that not surprising when laissez fire capitalism is instigated for just that end and wealth flows upward (not trickle down) in capitalism.  Citizens of the USA must decide if that distribution of wealth is all right with them or whether Stewardship plays a part in being an American.     Frank



So JG, how do you then reward risk-taking, entrepreneurial spirit, and outright hard work?

I'm sorry to say, though many professions require a college degree, and hard work to do well, they involve no risk, and are safe.

How do you reward someone who risks everything they're worth, and everything their family has, to pursue their dream, and then have that dream work out?

I've done it once - it's scary as hell.  My first attempt was successful for awhile, and ended in a train wreck.  I worked for corporate America for 5 years after the collapse.  It was safe, and was a good living, but it wasn't for me.

So, now I've taken an $80,000 pay cut, with two kids in college no less, to try again.  In fact, I make less money right now than I've made in 20 years.  As embarrassed as I am to say it, I probably qualify for a full Obamacare subsidy if I wanted it.  We've sold two cars, the house, and downsized everything.  My kids are all working - even while in school - which is not the college experience I had planned for them.  They worry if we will make their tuition next semester.

So, my whole family is giving of themselves to take this risk with me.  Mine and my wife's retirement is on the line here, in addition to the kids' college educations.

If this works, and I end up making my initial investment back 100 times over, are you telling me I should hand it over to someone that took the safe route, or the no-work route?  Did they risk everything?

We have 5 drivers in my house, and 1 car.  A year ago, we had 3.  My kids are missing all sorts of things I had hoped to provide for them as we go through this startup.

I am interested to hear you, or Dewey, or anyone else tell me why, after my whole family agrees to the risk, takes the hit, and suffers through a couple of bad years, that if I make this work, anyone should feel guilty about it, or hand over the results of that work to others who have done nothing to earn it?

Unless you've lived it, you can't imagine the depth of the sacrifice.  When I did this last time, I went 18 months with no paycheck - 18 months.  Can you imagine the sort of hardship that creates?

If, in 3-5 years, I am in the top 3% of wage earners, you will not see me feeling guilty about it, because I will have climbed my up from the bottom 20%, using nothing but my intellect, hard work, and hopefully, some business sense and appropriate risk taking.

I will not feel very inclined to put my family through this, then hand over the results of it, if successful (which is very much TBD in this economy), to someone else who has done none of these things.

If you want to argue that policemen, firemen, or school teachers deserve more money than they make currently, I'll engage that debate. 

However, I hate to tell you, that being a nurse or a school teacher, while difficult, in no way involves the sort of risk-all effort that I'm talking about.

So, I say again - how is it fair to take that away from me?
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Mikec--AMEN brother! AMEN!!

And just a note..where did the term wealth distribution come from? I can tell you, like mikec, no one is distributing any wealth to me! I, my family and my emp;oyees are EARNING our take through hard work and sacrifice. And then a portion of my "wealth" is being REdistributed to others!! There is NO wealth distribution line! Go EARN it!! 

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I just read (with graphs to illustrate)  that by far the USA leads the world in creating Rich People.  Why is that not surprising when laissez fire capitalism is instigated for just that end and wealth flows upward (not trickle down) in capitalism.  Citizens of the USA must decide if that distribution of wealth is all right with them or whether Stewardship plays a part in being an American.     Frank



So JG, how do you then reward risk-taking, entrepreneurial spirit, and outright hard work?

By allowing them to keep two-thirds of what they earn. Easy math and no disincentivization, since people motivated by making money make as much money as they can. Period.

What I love are that a**clowns who inherit it all. They're born on third base but behave like they hit a triple.

Finally, there is NO ONE who espoused the redistribution of wealth more than Jesus. I doubt you would call him a scum-sucking socialist.

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Finally, there is NO ONE who espoused the redistribution of wealth more than Jesus.


Jesus taught against accumulating wealth.....And, He taught to take care of others.....If these two things are done, in His name, then, He will provide for us, as His followers.....

Don't believe I would call this "redistribution of wealth", but, I understand what you are saying......
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Finally, there is NO ONE who espoused the redistribution of wealth more than Jesus.


Jesus taught against accumulating wealth.....And, He taught to take care of others.....If these two things are done, in His name, then, He will provide for us, as His followers.....

Don't believe I would call this "redistribution of wealth", but, I understand what you are saying......


Just something I found regarding Jesus and "Redistribution of Wealth" for your consideration.

http://churchofgoddfw.com/monthly/redistributing_wealth.shtml

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I just read (with graphs to illustrate)  that by far the USA leads the world in creating Rich People.  Why is that not surprising when laissez fire capitalism is instigated for just that end and wealth flows upward (not trickle down) in capitalism.  Citizens of the USA must decide if that distribution of wealth is all right with them or whether Stewardship plays a part in being an American.     Frank



So JG, how do you then reward risk-taking, entrepreneurial spirit, and outright hard work?

By allowing them to keep two-thirds of what they earn. Easy math and no disincentivization, since people motivated by making money make as much money as they can. Period.

What I love are that a**clowns who inherit it all. They're born on third base but behave like they hit a triple.

Finally, there is NO ONE who espoused the redistribution of wealth more than Jesus. I doubt you would call him a scum-sucking socialist.



Wow!! Thank you for ALLOWING me to KEEP 2/3 of what I EARN!! WOW!! Thank you for that amazing gift!!

Instead of demaning and complaining about those who produce and are charged 1/3 of their earnings for the rest of society, I would rather you just said Thank You and repect us for going above and beyond!

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Mike - By "allowing" them a standard of living that most people can only dream of.   I remember when Ken Lay of Enron was arrested for stealing from his workers' pension monies, and he was made to pay restitution.  He and his wife owned four mansions, and they had to sell three.  They kept the Aspen mansion.  His wife appeared on TV, tears streaming down her cheeks, and wept, "We are penniless".  I cannot tell you how many tears I shed for her.  [rofl]  I read many wealthy people complaining about how much they pay in taxes (what the tax attorneys can't hide), but I rarely if ever hear them discuss how much spendable they have left over or what their lifestyle is like.  I assume they are not scrambling or dumpster diving  for their next meal. As one of our finer representatives said about getting his paycheck during the shutdown which he voted for, "I have a fine house and a daughter in college".  What was most interesting was that he didn't even realize how that sounded to the people he had voted to put out of work.  So it goes in the world of "As I see it affecting me . . . !!".     Frank

PS - Either you believe in Stewardship or you don't, even when it is government enforced Stewardship in a given nation state.  There is a top Midwestern university that has the following as their mantra - "Children, by nature and necessity, are egocentric.  Adults think socially, even when alone.  Our role is to move our students from the former to the latter".  I know a lot of people who didn't attend that university.  What bothers me to no end is not our method of taxation, but rather how those in government spend the largess derived from the governed taxpayers in the good old USA.  "Effective Oversight" - two words that do not exist in our government.  "Corruption" in every agency - the result which encourages excessive spending and waste of taxpayers' money.

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Disturbing paradox that people not incentivized by making money feel entitled to TAKE as much as they can.

How is it that if you don't feel a need to make money, you feel a need to take money? This mindset motivates thieves. Bank robbers. Burglars. Purse snatchers. Democrats. Scam artists. Pickpockets. Shoplifters. Criminal scum of all ilk.
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How is it that it is considered "Greed" when one desires to keep the rewards of their own risk and hard work yet is not considered "Greed" to snatch 1/3 or more of what someone else has earned through risk and hard work?
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Jerry Wallace "For The Love Of The Game"
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