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HenryLouisAaron

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<< Hmmmmmm.....Wichita State brings in a kid with a  5.75 ERA for their kid who is throwing a shutout   Hmmmmmm >> (3LT)


That was a reasonable post to make at the time.

After the kid with the 5.75 ERA came through by ending the inning with just two pitches... 
did you make a follow up post about what a genius decision that was by the Wichita State coach..?

Tell the truth...
were you impressed by the way that worked out for Wichita State..?
The "kid" came into the game with a runner on base and one out.
She threw two pitches...  and the inning was over.

Were you jumping up and down... saying what an amazing job that "kid" just did..?


HenryLouisAaron

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One more point that you need to digest and try to understand - is this...

Bingham, the pitcher who was brought in to face Romeo (when Lange was taken out in the 5th inning)...
was the Wichita State pitcher who their coach used the most (besides Lange).
She was second on the team in innings pitched.

You can argue that, in your view,  she shouldn't have been their number two pitcher (in regard to usage)... 
but... the person who's job is to determine which of the team's players has put in the time in practice, the work, the sweat... 
day in and day out... and deserves to be in the actual games... IS THE COACH.
And the Wichita State coach saw something in Bingham... that resulted in her earning playing time more so than any other pitcher on that team... 
except their number one starter, Lange.

Bringing Bingham into the Oklahoma game...  WAS NOT SOME OUT OF NOWHERE MOVE.
She was used more often than any other pitcher on the team - besides Lange.
It wasn't like bringing Bingham into a game... was something new - or out of the ordinary.

Chew on that for a while...
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Originally Posted by HenryLouisAaron
<< Hmmmmmm.....Wichita State brings in a kid with a  5.75 ERA for their kid who is throwing a shutout   Hmmmmmm >> (3LT)


That was a reasonable post to make at the time.

After the kid with the 5.75 ERA came through by ending the inning with just two pitches... 
did you make a follow up post about what a genius decision that was by the Wichita State coach..?




That's the Hank we know and love.... likening a rifle-shot lineout double play to two Nolan Ryan strikeouts.

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Originally Posted by HenryLouisAaron

Bringing Bingham into the Oklahoma game...  WAS NOT SOME OUT OF NOWHERE MOVE.
It was the epitome of an 'out-of-nowhere move'

 

HenryLouisAaron

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<< That's the Hank we know and love.... likening a rifle-shot lineout double play to two Nolan Ryan strikeouts. >> (3LT)

No doubt... they (the pitcher & the coach) were lucky... 
that the ball got hit where it did - to result in a line out double play.
Btw... the same way Lange had been lucky in two of the earlier innings. 

BUT... the point remains - THAT IT DID WORK.

You must have been stoked with the result. They bring in this pitcher (that you are concerned about)... 
and in two pitches - shazam, the inning is over.

You can go ahead and admit it... 
At that point in time - you were saying, "Wow... that sure did work out nicely".


HenryLouisAaron

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<< Bringing Bingham into the Oklahoma game...  WAS NOT SOME OUT OF NOWHERE MOVE.
She was used more often than any other pitcher on the team - besides Lange.
It wasn't like bringing Bingham into a game... was something new - or out of the ordinary. >> (me)


<< It was the epitome of an 'out-of-nowhere move' >> (3LT)

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A coach taking a pitcher out - after she has been owned by a specific hitter during a game - when that hitter is coming up again... 
is not an "out of nowhere move".  It is an actual coaching strategy  that has been used over and over again.

It is not anything new.

And THAT is exactly what the Wichita State coach was doing.

If you can't understand that - or if you choose to refuse to understand it... 
that's all on you.
CousinMaynard

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What's up with Mizzou-Tulsa?

Is Tulsa driving a hard bargain with the buyout? Or is Mizzou actually thinking of playing this one?

Pretty gutsy move if you ask me. Tulsa ain't no SEMO!
3leftturns

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Quote:
Originally Posted by HenryLouisAaron
<< Bringing Bingham into the Oklahoma game...  WAS NOT SOME OUT OF NOWHERE MOVE.
She was used more often than any other pitcher on the team - besides Lange.
It wasn't like bringing Bingham into a game... was something new - or out of the ordinary. >> (me)


<< It was the epitome of an 'out-of-nowhere move' >> (3LT)

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A coach taking a pitcher out - after she has been owned by a specific hitter during a game - when that hitter is coming up again... 
is not an "out of nowhere move".  It is an actual coaching strategy  that has been used over and over again.

It is not anything new.

And THAT is exactly what the Wichita State coach was doing.

If you can't understand that - or if you choose to refuse to understand it... 
that's all on you.
LOL...two singles is not ownership.

You employ more severe stretches than Plasticman, and here you are again. Hope you aren't a lawyer.

But even if she had smashed two extra-base hits -- shown  a dominance -- a homer would only make it 6-2.

You don't bring in a kid with a 6 ERA (every bit of it earned against teams ranked lower than the Sooners) for a kid with half the ERA (and triple the innings) with a  6-0 shutout and one out in the fifth...period

Out-of-nowhere, highly suspicious move
CousinMaynard

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If "It just means more" in the SEC, I'd hate to see how they'd do if it meant less.

#TwoOuttaThirteen #Pathetic

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If "It just means more" in the SEC, I'd hate to see how they'd do if it meant less.

#TwoOuttaThirteen #Pathetic



and yours didnt even make the tourney but you have an issue with the sec being the second best conference this season?

“how they’d do if it means less” it would mean they were this b1g or the acc or the b12.
HenryLouisAaron

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<< LOL...two singles is not ownership.
You employ more severe stretches than Plasticman, and here you are again. Hope you aren't a lawyer.
But even if she had smashed two extra-base hits -- shown  a dominance -- a homer would only make it 6-2.
You don't bring in a kid with a 6 ERA (every bit of it earned against teams ranked lower than the Sooners) for a kid with half the ERA (and triple the innings) with a  6-0 shutout and one out in the fifth...period
Out-of-nowhere, highly suspicious move >> (3LT)

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I hadn't seen this reply from you... till just now.

My response is this:  I bet if you actually talked with the coach... she would tell you exactly what I told you.
And it is only what was in her mind - at that particular point in time - that matters.  That is how she viewed it, when it was happening.

Btw... Plasticman (or Mr. Fantastic, Reed Richards in the Marvel Universe) would make an excellent first baseman. Boy... can he stretch.
And he would be amazing in the outfield.  He could make HR saving catches on even those 280 foot Alo bombs.
He would also be impossible to throw out stealing.
CousinMaynard

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A conference with < five percent of the teams received 37.5% of the at large bids to the NCAA tournament.
IDK about the rest of you all, but if my conference was given as much favor, I'd expect at least one of our schools to make it past elimination Saturday.

Softball is Extremely Corrupted

3leftturns

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What were those 5 percent of teams' records against the rest of the 95 percent of the teams?
scrybe

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What were those 5 percent of teams' records against the rest of the 95 percent of the teams?


Not sure, but I hear they swept Popcorn State and Sisters of the Poor.

LOL. He's still OUR Lefty.
LandLottery

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The records of the five percent may be somewhat distorted.  This year, within the SEC during conference play, the road teams were 57-104.  Only about a third of games were won by the road team against the same or equivalent opposition.

If the rpi fails to note and provide the appropriate weight for games played on the road vs those at home, a schedule that predominantly involves home games would generate an artificially high rpi.  Once that rpi is generated, when additional weight is given to teams playing other teams ranking high in the rpi becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

As a result, any seeds that also include appearance at home in a tournament also would be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

When an unseeded team must play on the road in the Super-Regionals and proceeds to go undefeated through the CWS, it tend to call the formula for the rpi into question.
3leftturns

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Which rpi "unseeded" team is that?

Hard to give too much of a bonus for road wins...because then no one would play at home.

Talk about self-fulfilling prophecy
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Which rpi "unseeded" team is that?

Hard to give too much of a bonus for road wins...because then no one would play at home.

Talk about self-fulfilling prophecy
Last year, the defending national champions were given such a low seed that they had to play Auburn on the road in the Super Regionals.  How did that happen?

If they can't win on the road, they  shouldn't have the seed or the high rpi.  That's the idea of trying to generate a legitimate rpi.  You give a higher rating to the road win.  Otherwise, there is no incentive to do anything other than to remain in Gainesville, Baton Rouge, or Eugene for most of your games.
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