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whoisdat

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Is a 70% scholarship offer for an outfielder a good offer? Also is it appropriate to discuss scholarship offers with other schools that are recruiting the athlete. 

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1. Yes.

2. Yes.

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whoisdat

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Thank You!

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I think YES!!! is a more appropriate answer to No.1.

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What does the 70% entail?  Is it athletic alone?  Does it cover room and board and ...  Is it 75% in state or out of state?  Does it have any academic monies figured in?  One school, in the recruiting process of my child, joked that she was getting 100% full ride in athletic money.  However, the joke was that they only have X amount of money and so, any player in their program receives approximately the same amount.  If that makes sense to you. 

I know a parent who was excited that her daughter received a 60% athletic scholarship and then would qualify for some academic money.  The young lady signed.  They were OUT OF STATE and then room and board were not covered.  The grades were good and ACT good but not great.  They are now playing about $12,000 a year when they thought they would be paying about $4,000.  You have to do your homework!
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Is negotiating appropriate after an initial offer?  Daughter received an offer (not 100%) from a school with coach sending a detailed breakdown of how it was computed (very helpful).  Still would require some outlay by mom and dad.  Can you ask for more?  Don't want to make coach mad.


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Is negotiating appropriate after an initial offer?  Daughter received an offer (not 100%) from a school with coach sending a detailed breakdown of how it was computed (very helpful).  Still would require some outlay by mom and dad.  Can you ask for more?  Don't want to make coach mad.


Many parents on here may disagree with me, but my opinion is one from the coach perspective.  It is very acceptable to let the coach know that you have concerns about being able to afford the remainder and actually I encourage it to keep the lines of communication open, but DO NOT negotiate the scholarship.  Many coaches look at this as a parent that will be higher maintenance and don't want that in their program.  Coaches are trying to assign a value to every player on the team in order to properly improve the program and balance their 12 allotted scholarships.  If they really want your daughter they will find a way, but you can't be pushy.
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Is negotiating appropriate after an initial offer?  Daughter received an offer (not 100%) from a school with coach sending a detailed breakdown of how it was computed (very helpful).  Still would require some outlay by mom and dad.  Can you ask for more?  Don't want to make coach mad.




When you do get a scholarship make sure that you and the coach are very clear on how the amount is computed.  You're better off making it a percentage of the tuition fee, not a fixed dollar amount.  That way when the tuition goes up, and it WILL go up, so does the scholarship amount.  The school my daughter went to had a tuition increase every year.  In her senior year the tuition was $8,000 more than when she had committed to play there.  That was a 33% increase!  If you're not careful you could be in for a rude awakening.

Also, the amount received can be changed after the first year.  It's up to the coach.  Your daughter, not you, should request more scholarship money if she deems it appropriate. 
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It's much better then nothing [smile] And more then 50% so I think we can congratulate you. Of course it's not much, and you have to deny such advantages as history essay help global, or something. But you have reasons to be proud. Congrats [wink]
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Lots of good points already made.

- I suspect the 70% is based primarily on her offense rather than her defense, so it should be evaluated on that basis (e.g. speedy slapper and/or slugger?) rather than position (OF).

- While verifying the calculation of the 70%, determine how much money needs to come out of your pocket to attend because that is how you should compare offers. People get hung up on percentages, which can lead them to taking an offer that costs them more. For example, 70% at a private and/or out-of-state school might cost you more than 50% at an in-state public school.

- Definitely need to be careful if the offer isn't for all 4-years. 
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Is the offer for 70% or is it a fixed amount that you computed to be 70%?  The reason I asked is that my daughter was offered a fixed amount and, in my head, I computed the percentage and was fine with it.  What I didn't take into account that between her freshman and senior year the tuition cost alone increased by $8,000 per year (from $24,000 to $32,000).   That sticker shock reduced the percentage.

Fortunately I convinced my daughter to ask the coach for more money in her senior year and he gave her $15,000 more that year which took the sting out of the cost of the tuition increase.
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