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1janiedough

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Yes, Janie. She was pretty miserable by halfway through her second year.

I’ll say it one more time “for the people in the back” and then I’ll move on. She is one of the better pitching transfers available this year. Her recruitment was talked about so very much only because it got dragged out for so long when FIU wouldn’t release her. Nobody said she was the next Honda winner already.
The black and white of it is: she throws mid-upper 60’s, with legit spin, a legit change, a bulldog mentality and a lot of upside as she just started figuring it out her freshman year in college. With a solid pitching coach like Lombardi, she should get the polish that she needs and should have a chance to be something special. But as EVERY kid in D1 has, she will be likely to have some ups and downs.
I apologize for the miss on 15 k’s vs 17. It was no attempt at embellishment. It was merely a statement that she hasn’t only had one good game. As 3LT and a few others will tell you, I’m not a stat junkie and not much for boasting. As a matter of fact, i have said twice now that no one has claimed her to be a superstar already. And AGAIN, the only reason that there have been so many threads was people kept asking if she was able to get recruited yet and if she had decided because her previous school made her wait.
As for why i post on here. I am a former player (and a current coach) with a huge appreciation for the fans — even the nutty ones and the ones i don’t agree with. When i was still playing, my father posted her chatting along with other dads and fans. When he passed away a few years ago, i began to spend a little time here as it was how i got through post season. Some people grieve the most over birthdays and holidays. For me, i miss pop the most when I’m missing our 3-4 phone calls a day during college post season. So this is the place i often say things i would have gotten to say to him. I’ve been fortunate enough to encounter a few softball dads who have made me smile when I’ve been missing him the most.


What you don't realize is I remember you as a player...way back when!
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I’ve been fortunate enough to encounter a few softball dads who have made me smile when I’ve been missing him the most.

I hope that I am in that group Coach!  I was hoping that I would read a post where Saile picked the Crimson Tide.  I take solace that one of your students (L. K.) will be on campus in 2019.
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Going from a decent conference to another. But when she faces SEC and PAC teams, her ERA  will increase. Sorry, reality.
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Going from a decent conference to another. But when she faces SEC and PAC teams, her ERA  will increase. Sorry, reality.


You don’t have to be sorry, blue. That would likely be common sense to anyone. But if you’ll notice, i never predict anyone’s chance of success here as i think it’s a foolish way to pass the time. The game will play itself out and I’m patient enough and frankly love to watch and be surprised and impressed as it happens. No need or desire on my part for predictions.
Aside from all that, are you saying that every defense is equal? Because, as a former pitcher and current pitching coach, i will tell you that my ERA was different (in a way that i liked) when i got to throw for teams with some amazing defensive players who could make plays that left my jaw on the ground. I’ve heard someone argue here that ERA is a true measure of a pitcher. I respectfully disagree. I know my ERA was better when i had all-Americans and olympians patrolling the field behind me. I’m going to bet that OU’s defense may make a play or three that FIU’s did not. No offense to any of the ballplayers involved.
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You don’t have to be sorry, blue. That would likely be common sense to anyone. But if you’ll notice, i never predict anyone’s chance of success here as i think it’s a foolish way to pass the time. The game will play itself out and I’m patient enough and frankly love to watch and be surprised and impressed as it happens. No need or desire on my part for predictions.
Aside from all that, are you saying that every defense is equal? Because, as a former pitcher and current pitching coach, i will tell you that my ERA was different (in a way that i liked) when i got to throw for teams with some amazing defensive players who could make plays that left my jaw on the ground. I’ve heard someone argue here that ERA is a true measure of a pitcher. I respectfully disagree. I know my ERA was better when i had all-Americans and olympians patrolling the field behind me. I’m going to bet that OU’s defense may make a play or three that FIU’s did not. No offense to any of the ballplayers involved.


Z, I'm sure you're a great coach. I'm not passing time, just predicting a reality check. If I hear correctly what you're telling me, I agree that a solid D checks their pitchers' ERA and a pitcher with a mediocre ERA can be relied to win some big games. Some do, sometimes. We'll see. Put her in. I think she will see some hitters from SEC and PAC that will make her ERA increase substantially. I predict she'll have some great games, and as many bad games.

We'll see.

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I guess I’m just trying to figure out why people think there is a “reality check” needed. For the third time, no one has predicted this young woman to be the second coming of Christ. Where do you see a reality that anyone is bypassing?
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Mark, in the immortal words of TW, “no question”!! Any opportunity i get to sit with a dad and watch his little girl, i feel like I’m getting to relive one of the best parts of my youth. I loved it! I think if she could have divided herself into five, she’d have been content in all of the places she considered.
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Coach Z, Congrats to your pitcher SS. How long have you been her pitching coach? What do you think will be her biggest adjustment coming from FIU to OKLAHOMA?
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When i was still playing, my father posted here chatting along with other dads and fans. When he passed away a few years ago, i began to spend a little time here as it was how i got through post season. Some people grieve the most over birthdays and holidays. For me, i miss pop the most when I’m missing our 3-4 phone calls a day during college post season. So this is the place i often say things i would have gotten to say to him. I’ve been fortunate enough to encounter a few softball dads who have made me smile when I’ve been missing him the most.
Oh boy.... this was a Tyson uppercut to my mandible
3leftturns

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In any departing player's utter defense, Gator can make Mike White look like Lonni Alameda intensity-wise, and lingo-wise (unless he has changed markedly since travel ball)

Hard to get that way to work without credentialing
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BlueSky was owned -- not that it was a huge accomplishment.
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Coach Z, I too appreciate everything you bring to this board, you are most definitely a class act. When you were in Norman for the Supers I thought about introducing myself but didn’t want to infringe. I have heard nothing but good things about you and look forward to hopefully seeing you in Norman again next year, but hopefully it won’t be because we are playing Arkansas but more because Saile and Conrad are having good years.

I would hope that everyone on this board understands that while SS is a D1 athlete, she is also a daughter, still a young ladya and she didn’t ask for any of this, especially any negativity. She just wanted the chance to play at a school where she can be comfortable and have fun playing the game again. Let’s put all the negativity aside and wish her luck with her next endeavor.

Boomer Sooner!
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What a boring choice.
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https://fastpitchnews.com/college-softball-news/shannon-saile-transfers-to-oklahoma-talks-with-fpn/352811

Short interview but very illuminating. This is a young woman that was talented and got pretty much overlooked in the recruiting process. It shows how imperfect softball recruiting has become especially in Florida where many talented kids play in mediocre travel ball teams. I don’t know how this is anything but a great story about a girl that has earned her way into a chance to play big time softball. Good luck to her and I look forward to watching her next season.
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https://fastpitchnews.com/college-softball-news/shannon-saile-transfers-to-oklahoma-talks-with-fpn/352811

Short interview but very illuminating. This is a young woman that was talented and got pretty much overlooked in the recruiting process. It shows how imperfect softball recruiting has become especially in Florida where many talented kids play in mediocre travel ball teams. I don’t know how this is anything but a great story about a girl that has earned her way into a chance to play big time softball. Good luck to her and I look forward to watching her next season.




Coach Gasso and Coach Lombardi are known for developing their players mentally, physically and spiritually, and I hope to be apart of their pool of amazing women that have come out of this program. I’m excited to grow with a program like this.”


The most important word in bold and Gasso's greatest job she says...also nice shout out to CoachZ in the interview.
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CoachZ is on the Rushmore of pitcher whisperers out there now IMHO.

THAT is who I am paying a buck and a half a year to have in my bullpen and on the bucket if I am a contending P5
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<< Wishing her the very best of luck but OU is NOT FIU >> (Wellduh)


Yes... OU is not FIU.

Oklahoma has Melyssa Lombardi.
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<< Wishing her the very best of luck but OU is NOT FIU >> (Wellduh)


Yes... OU is not FIU.

Oklahoma has Melyssa Lombardi.

Not for long....looks like she’s headed to Oregon.
HenryLouisAaron

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<< With a solid pitching coach like Lombardi, she should get the polish that she needs and should have a chance to be something special. But as EVERY kid in D1 has, she will be likely to have some ups and downs. >> (CoachZ)


Ding, ding, ding. ding!

CoachZ hits the bulls eye.
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<< As 3LT and a few others will tell you, I’m not a stat junkie and not much for boasting. As a matter of fact, i have said twice now that no one has claimed her to be a superstar already. And AGAIN, the only reason that there have been so many threads was people kept asking if she was able to get recruited yet and if she had decided because her previous school made her wait. 
As for why i post on here. I am a former player (and a current coach) with a huge appreciation for the fans — even the nutty ones and the ones i don’t agree with. When i was still playing, my father posted here chatting along with other dads and fans. When he passed away a few years ago, i began to spend a little time here as it was how i got through post season. Some people grieve the most over birthdays and holidays. For me, i miss pop the most when I’m missing our 3-4 phone calls a day during college post season. So this is the place i often say things i would have gotten to say to him. I’ve been fortunate enough to encounter a few softball dads who have made me smile when I’ve been missing him the most. >> (CoachZ)


It's great to hear you can find a little enjoyment from conversing with others on this site. Glad to hear it fills a bit of the hole left by your dad's departure.
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. She is a D1 stud and will be just exactly that. Almost every big time school has one.

We're u a stud at UCLA?
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2019 Natty to OU, then.  Book it!

Didn't someone say the same thing about 2018?
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Didn't someone say the same thing about 2018?


Guess I missed that one.
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<< Wishing her the very best of luck but OU is NOT FIU >> (Wellduh)


Yes... OU is not FIU.

Oklahoma has Melyssa Lombardi.


This didn't age well.


Does this change Saile's calculus at all? I mean, there is WAY more to OU than just Lombardi, but ... still, this would have shaken me up a little.
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This didn't age well.


Does this change Saile's calculus at all? I mean, there is WAY more to OU than just Lombardy, but ... still, this would have shaken me up a little. 

Gasso recruited her personally so I don't see it changing anything but it's got to suck a bit for her.
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Gasso recruited her personally so I don't see it changing anything but it's got to suck a bit for her.


I find it hard to believe that recruiting didn't include something along the lines of "you'll get to work with the coach that helped Parker, Ricketts etc.become champions". So much for that... unless she transfers to OR.
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https://fastpitchnews.com/college-softball-news/shannon-saile-transfers-to-oklahoma-talks-with-fpn/352811

Short interview but very illuminating. This is a young woman that was talented and got pretty much overlooked in the recruiting process. It shows how imperfect softball recruiting has become especially in Florida where many talented kids play in mediocre travel ball teams. I don’t know how this is anything but a great story about a girl that has earned her way into a chance to play big time softball. Good luck to her and I look forward to watching her next season.

She sure seemed to be under the impression that Lombardi would be her pitching coach; I guess her interest in the Oregon head coaching job didn't come up during the recruiting visit.
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She sure seemed to be under the impression that Lombardi would be her pitching coach; I guess her interest in the Oregon head coaching job didn't come up during the recruiting visit.


Kinda makes me wonder if this was handled like the UCLA/Roquan Smith signing day fiasco.

I still think Saile winds up a Sooner, she seems to really love the school and culture already, but I hope she was at least aware of this being a possibility before it happened.
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CoachZ, Was Saile and her family aware that Missy was talking to Oregon when she committed to Oklahoma?  If so, congratulations to all and good luck in Norman.  If not, I would imagine that there may be a few people not real happy at this moment.  Please share your insight.
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Gasso recruited her personally so I don't see it changing anything but it's got to suck a bit for her.


And you know this how...?

And with Lombardi in Oregon would've been tough to have a sit down anyway. And ye it sucks. I'm sure Saile figured she'd be working with Lombardi and gotta believe that was a big reason she chose OU. 
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