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uwApoligist

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Thanks for the omnibus f'er.  

Really, I always kind of liked Ryan.  Never really felt he was a strong leader. 

He was definitely the strongest of the bunch.  McConnell, Boehner, Cantor, Pelosi, Shumer.  Knew the details really well. 

This just proves that our process for leadership development has fallen way short over the last 10-20 years.



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For half a dozen years, a GOP House kept sending budgets to the President that added trillions to our total debt.  President Obama had to keep signing them.  How's that for a new perspective?
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For half a dozen years, a GOP House kept sending budgets to the President that added trillions to our total debt.  President Obama had to keep signing them.  How's that for a new perspective?

laughable.  Sequester, right?

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One RINO down, one to go in the Senate.
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President Obama had to keep signing them

Why did he have to? More like he loved the increase spending on BS social welfare programs.
Take a stand, veto and make them override. Trump should have done the same

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Thanks for the omnibus f'er.  

Really, I always kind of liked Ryan.  Never really felt he was a strong leader. 

He was definitely the strongest of the bunch.  McConnell, Boehner, Cantor, Pelosi, Shumer.  Knew the details really well. 

This just proves that our process for leadership development has fallen way short over the last 10-20 years.




Trump signed it - he owns it

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uwApoligist

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I recommend you don't vote for Trump.  That will teach him.

Ryan pushed that piece of sh1t omnibus through.  Did not happen without him. He owns it, as does McConnell and Trump. 

A fat fu*kin sendoff as well.  Hundreds of billions in pork and social welfare, all added directly to the debt.  Enough spending to tizzy up even the old Duiane.


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Ryan set his family up for generations with his corrupt dealings...........The other crooks are lining up to take his place.........

Either drain the swamp, or not............There's no in-between...........
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I recommend you don't vote for Trump.  That will teach him.

Ryan pushed that piece of sh1t omnibus through.  Did not happen without him. He owns it, as does McConnell and Trump. 

A fat fu*kin sendoff as well.  Hundreds of billions in pork and social welfare, all added directly to the debt.  Enough spending to tizzy up even the old Duiane.



YUP^^^^^

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I didn't, but glad he won.

Funny to get you riled up on the omnibus not being Trumps fault.

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I didn't, but glad he won.

Funny to get you riled up on the omnibus not being Trumps fault.


trump the Messiah is blameless.  the one perfect human to walk the earth.  we are so lucky to be alive now to see it.
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He is to blame as well.  You might want to check yourselves up a bit.  Your eGOP friends are not that great either.
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Check myself up?  Not quite sure what that means.

They are all to blame - just funny you shout how bad Ryan and McConnell are and act like they drug Trump kicking and screaming and put a gun to his head to make him sign it.

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They did.  They put a gun to his head.  Showed they have veto override votes. 

Trump is still at fault.  Most would have applauded his veto, and he would have exposed the eGOP for who they are.  He would have also been impeached on bullsh1t.  

Still great how Ryan sent a fine FU to you and other eGOP supporters.  "Here you go f'ers,  Several 100 Bill in new spending and debt.  I am out."

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They did.  They put a gun to his head.  Showed they have veto override votes. 

Trump is still at fault.  Most would have applauded his veto, and he would have exposed the eGOP for who they are.  He would have also been impeached on bullsh1t.  


That's quite a yarn you are spinning.

Do you have a single link or article to back up your conspiracy theory on overriding the veto?  Kind of amazing to think a GOP congress would override a GOP President's veto.

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That's quite a yarn you are spinning.

Do you have a single link or article to back up your conspiracy theory on overriding the veto?  Kind of amazing to think a GOP congress would override a GOP President's veto.

I will take this one: 
https://about.bgov.com/blog/senators-skeptical-trump-efforts-cut-funds-omnibus/

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The word override does not appear and veto only appears once, in reference to line-item veto.

I mean, it's a great theory, but not one that seems to be based in reality.  Anything to back up that he would have been impeached?

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Proof positive.  One is trying to cut the spending the others are fighting those cuts.  Not hard to figure it out. 
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uwApoligist

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I suspect in the Cliff Claven literal parsing club, this all gets a bit wonky.  
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They did.  They put a gun to his head.  Showed they have veto override votes. 

Trump is still at fault.  Most would have applauded his veto, and he would have exposed the eGOP for who they are.  He would have also been impeached on bullsh1t.  


Still not one shred of evidence any of this is true.  Trump signed it anyway.

I guess it is Fantasy Friday.

Text marked in bold is more than likely true.  I know I would have, and I am guessing MikeC as well

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"Lawmakers said they expect a series of proposed spending cuts from President Donald Trump. Most Republicans said they would withhold judgment until they see the details, but Democrats and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) criticized the idea"
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A debate with no distinction.  Both Trump and Ryan wanted more military spending and my guess is neither wanted more discretionary spending.  Unfortunately for them both, that option was not available to them.  The compromise offered more spending on both or no spending increases on either.  Both men opted for the compromise that included more spending and only President Trump had the final say.  The two were on the same page.
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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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A debate with no distinction.  Both Trump and Ryan wanted more military spending and my guess is neither wanted more discretionary spending.  Unfortunately for them both, that option was not available to them.  The compromise offered more spending on both or no spending increases on either.  Both men opted for the compromise that included more spending and only President Trump had the final say.  The two were on the same page.


It was if they stood up for the people that voted for them.  Even worse when you find out Ryan was leaving anyway.

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It's next to impossible to increase defense spending if the opposition says no.  Both men could stand up for those who voted for them all day long and the options remained the same.  Raise both defense spending and discretionary spending or don't raise either.  I repeat, the two men were on the same page and chose the same option.
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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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You are conflating the issues once again. Yes, they were on the same page. It was not the only page.

Several avenues they could have took, including shaming he dems into it like the left does with schoolchildren and illegals.

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Page one is vote for the budget and page two is don't vote for the budget.  I guess there is a page three which is don't do anything.  Problem is any other page has the same effect as page two, no increase in defense spending and no increase in discretionary spending.  It's safe to say neither man wanted this result.
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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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Pretty obvious - are you trying to convince yourself?
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Actually, I thought comparing and grading two politicians who held the exact same view on the recent budget, was a debate going nowhere.
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The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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It's next to impossible to increase defense spending if the opposition says no.  Both men could stand up for those who voted for them all day long and the options remained the same.  Raise both defense spending and discretionary spending or don't raise either.  I repeat, the two men were on the same page and chose the same option.

Only impossible because McConnell refuses to use reconciliation.

So you get turds like omnibus and failure to rectify ACA.

GOP needs to get smart and kick McConnell to the Curb. 3 house leader changes have done zero to improve anything because the piece of sh1t.

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Pretty obvious - are you trying to convince yourself?
Nope. Happy with Trump trying to cut the spending he was forced to sign. Great to see Collins getting outed as eGOP RINO extrodanaire. When Republicans realize that McConnell, McCain, Collins and their like are not really our friends the party may actually accomplish something for the American working man.

"Lawmakers said they expect a series of proposed spending cuts from President Donald Trump. Most Republicans said they would withhold judgment until they see the details, but Democrats and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) criticized the idea" 

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