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uga20

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Ahhhhhh, hate over hyping a freshman. She’s great but this is still a step up.


Jarot she is the real deal!!!!!! You have a good ☝️ coming to town
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Ahhhhhh, hate over hyping a freshman. She’s great but this is still a step up.


No guarantee if a kid can adjust and handle the pressure at the next level but the kid has the talent and ability to do so.

Of course development and preparation is always a key factor. 


So what incoming pitchers does everyone expect to do well? 
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Good read.

Back when I played football at OU there was southwest conference and Big 8.
In the big 8 we did not cheer conference and texas and Nebraska can lose every game out of conference and we would cheer.
It was about our team. ...great teams win championships. Great conferences give the middle of pack and bottom teams a participation trophy if their conference wins.

Florida state is in finals and they are not in pac nor sec.
OU won back to back not being on pac nor sec.
This season 9 SEC teams were in super regionals and the only 2 series wins came against SEC team (florida over A&M and Georgia over Tennessee)
In WCWS neither SEC team beat a non-conference team with Georgia going 0-2 and Florida's lone win against Georgia.
In summar---in supers the sec did not win a series against non-conference and in wcws the sec did not win a game against non-conference.
SEC network is espn property and espm started the sec sec chants. 
Sitting in stands of past 7 years of wcws i can say the best fans outside of sooner fans are bama fans. Florida fans are right behind. Awesome fans.
The Tennessee fans are cool too...they deserve better than weeklys. They are good but not great. They don't seem to have that 4th gear to win championship.
Florida will remain good for years and years. I thougt many years ago they were going to be first to win championship from sec. My neice sent me her gator sweat top to wear (told me to wear a good school top to wcws). She is on gymnastics team at florida. Other neice is at A&M in equestrian. SO aggies and gators get love from me.......unless softball vs Georgia and i have always loiked Georgia softball. Except Georgia softball is great hitting and wait for next year.  or a bad injury like this year that derails season and you do good to go as far as they did without her.

SEC was most balanced top to bottom.....PAC was top heavy......florida state and OU don't care about conferences and can play with anyone (when someone besides parker and alo show up).
Tennessee is a monca abbot type pitcher away from championship form (losing to my sooners in championbship wasnt their best team recently. 
Georgia is my pick for next season and Kentucky will comntimnue to be a tough matchup as they have pac12 style and can play with pac teams.

Speaking candidly---we know espn has sex network and promote the brand but in no way should a conference get all teams in. That is participation trophies for bottom and an insult to 2nd place teams in other conferences that were overlooked.  Losing in regionals could have been another bi10 school (what happened to that conference?) or another acc. Yes sex is best conference.....but don't coddle the bottom. 

If barnhill goes florida will become Alabama.....good but not top of the conference anymore. Georgia and Tennessee you are on deck. Now is your time. Oh....and gig em....aggies looked great and it was HARD to watch those losses. They were brutal. My neighbor is a gator alum and even he felt for aggies.  That team showed heart to come back and win game 2 and trinity Harrington became my favorite pitcher of the supers. 

This season we saw all region hosts win and all supers hosts win.....1-8 seeded at wcws...yet #5 and #6 are in finals. Go figure.
Go rocky top, dawgs, and gig em. And if it is auburn vs bama ----warrrrr eagle over big al and the tide.


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No guarantee if a kid can adjust and handle the pressure at the next level but the kid has the talent and ability to do so.

Of course development and preparation is always a key factor. 


So what incoming pitchers does everyone expect to do well? 

Lefty Rachel Vaughn for the Gamecocks.
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Truer words have never been spoken.  

Of the 15 recruits of the incoming class of 2015 ONE remains on the team.  Of the 10 recruits of the 2016 class I believe 4 remain.  I haven't researched the 2017 class, although I noticed 2 names are now off the roster.  I am sure more will be leaving, time will tell.




Which players ? Roster looks the same to me as of a few minutes ago.

Smith went to OM to win games. Sorry but the recruits he got at the last minute we’re not SEC kids or they would have been committed to a SEC school year prior.

Transitioning from HS to college is hard for some kids especially when they are 1500 miles away from home. Why would a coach intentionally run off a good player that would help the team win? The answer is he would not.
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At the start of the 2017-2018 season there were 25 players on the roster, now there are 23. Legg and Wood were there in the Fall, not the Spring. 

I wasn't talking last minute recruits OR recruits he inherited.  The girls that left/quit or were cut were his recruits.....  The OP was spot on, when he said..... 
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Of course it doesn't help with Mike Smith is running off half the team in fall ball.
 

This year it was only 2 players, the 2 years prior it was 4 or 5 players each year that left after fall and another 3 or 4 that left after the season.....  Even the newspaper reporters have started to notice and one reporter had the guts to write about it.  I can't put my finger on the article at the moment, but I will see if I can find it and post it. 

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Which players ? Roster looks the same to me as of a few minutes ago. 

Smith went to OM to win games. Sorry but the recruits he got at the last minute we’re not SEC kids or they would have been committed to a SEC school year prior.
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Jarot she is the real deal!!!!!! You have a good ☝️ coming to town


I’ve seen her PLENTY! I know what kind of player she is.
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At the start of the 2017-2018 season there were 25 players on the roster, now there are 23. Legg and Wood were there in the Fall, not the Spring. 

I wasn't talking last minute recruits OR recruits he inherited.  The girls that left/quit or were cut were his recruits.....  The OP was spot on, when he said.....  

This year it was only 2 players, the 2 years prior it was 4 or 5 players each year that left after fall and another 3 or 4 that left after the season.....  Even the newspaper reporters have started to notice and one reporter had the guts to write about it.  I can't put my finger on the article at the moment, but I will see if I can find it and post it. 



Legg is at Penn State, and unless my eyes fooled me, Wood did play for Ole Miss this year. She's gone now, though.
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At the start of the 2017-2018 season there were 25 players on the roster, now there are 23. Legg and Wood were there in the Fall, not the Spring. 

I wasn't talking last minute recruits OR recruits he inherited.  The girls that left/quit or were cut were his recruits.....  The OP was spot on, when he said.....  

This year it was only 2 players, the 2 years prior it was 4 or 5 players each year that left after fall and another 3 or 4 that left after the season.....  Even the newspaper reporters have started to notice and one reporter had the guts to write about it.  I can't put my finger on the article at the moment, but I will see if I can find it and post it. 



Earlier in this post I see where OM just graduated 7 seniors this year. Most of any SEC school. I guess it is nice to get some of them a degree before they get run off.

The bottom line is that the kids that Smith inherited were not SEC kids or the team would have been winning. How is Smith expected to turn the program around when the SEC has finished recruiting by the 9th grade. Smith recruited what was available to him on a gamble that he would get better players than what he had. He did. Program started winning for the first time ever.

I see Smith in a no win situation. If he brings in a bunch of kids he is over recruiting. If they decide to leave he ran them off when they probably should not have been there to start with. If the team doesn’t win he is not an SEC caliber coach.
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Alabama has a transfer pitcher coming in from Chipola College - I think it's Krystal Goodman, but I could be off there.  Whoever it is gave Auburn some trouble in fall ball.  No comments abut A&M, but they are taking a huge whack with the folks they are losing, especially Harrington and Vidales, to say nothing of Christen Cuyos and Erika Russell.  Pitcher Lexi Davis is another, I think.

Saw a reference to Auburn's implosion; that's pretty true, but it certainly didn't drop us out of the top 32, as far as I know.  Our last RPI was 18 and UFCA ranking was 16, I think.  Not where we wanted to be, but about what a lot of us expected, given the circumstances.  Our schedule gets a lot tougher next year as we drop Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, and Mizzou, and pick up Florida, Georgia, So. Car., and Miss. St. Although Dean has caught some flak for game management, he really did a pretty good job of holding things together.  Now he needs to do something about the puny hitting and get maybe one pitcher.
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Speaking candidly---we know espn has sex network



Good grief. First I have trouble getting the Pac-12 Network, and now ESPN offers a sex network and I don't get that one either.

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Alabama has a transfer pitcher coming in from Chipola College - I think it's Krystal Goodman, but I could be off there.  Whoever it is gave Auburn some trouble in fall ball.  No comments abut A&M, but they are taking a huge whack with the folks they are losing, especially Harrington and Vidales, to say nothing of Christen Cuyos and Erika Russell.  Pitcher Lexi Davis is another, I think.

Saw a reference to Auburn's implosion; that's pretty true, but it certainly didn't drop us out of the top 32, as far as I know.  Our last RPI was 18 and UFCA ranking was 16, I think.  Not where we wanted to be, but about what a lot of us expected, given the circumstances.  Our schedule gets a lot tougher next year as we drop Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, and Mizzou, and pick up Florida, Georgia, So. Car., and Miss. St. Although Dean has caught some flak for game management, he really did a pretty good job of holding things together.  Now he needs to do something about the puny hitting and get maybe one pitcher.


Auburn was a Top 32 team sure, but didn't make the Final 32 teams in the NCAA tournament because they missed out on the Regional Finals. Of course the brackets aren't balanced, but Auburn underachieved by not making it to the Regional Final in Tally. 
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Alabama has a transfer pitcher coming in from Chipola College - I think it's Krystal Goodman, but I could be off there.  Whoever it is gave Auburn some trouble in fall ball.  No comments abut A&M, but they are taking a huge whack with the folks they are losing, especially Harrington and Vidales, to say nothing of Christen Cuyos and Erika Russell.  Pitcher Lexi Davis is another, I think.
 


To be fair most teams gave Auburn's offense trouble. 

I kid, Goodman is a talented lady. Interested to see how she will adjust to this next level of play
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Which players ? Roster looks the same to me as of a few minutes ago.

Smith went to OM to win games. Sorry but the recruits he got at the last minute we’re not SEC kids or they would have been committed to a SEC school year prior.

Transitioning from HS to college is hard for some kids especially when they are 1500 miles away from home. Why would a coach intentionally run off a good player that would help the team win? The answer is he would not.



I agree with you but Mike has a history of running off kids because he can be a$$hole. I know multiple kids who played for him, from both Mcneese and Ole Miss. 

Its not that he intentionally runs players off, its the way he acts and treats people as a coach. Some of the departures over the last few years are not his fault, but for other he is. 



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In terms of losses from each team, I definitely think A&M and LSU have the worst losses. 

I am interested to see where both place in the conference next season 


I think Georgia will be good next season but if they want a chance to be a top the SEC the pitching needs to be much better

On a positive note, a lot of the top teams in the conference this year are seeing some pretty major losses, should open the door a bit for other teams
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Someone mentioned possible freshman of the year honors for 2019. I wanna say Allysa Shipman night just grab that award. Been awhile since I saw her play TB, but I clearly remember thinking “dang not another Shipman.”
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Someone mentioned possible freshman of the year honors for 2019. I wanna say Allysa Shipman night just grab that award. Been awhile since I saw her play TB, but I clearly remember thinking “dang not another Shipman.”


Really not looking forward to the havoc of another Shipman.

But, pretty excited about Landrum and Sikes. Fincher too!
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Really not looking forward to the havoc of another Shipman.

But, pretty excited about Landrum and Sikes. Fincher too!


I view them like I view Shay Knighten. I so despise watching them play for another team mainly bc I want them on my team.
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South Carolina has two pitchers coming in worthy of watching:

Karly Heath & Rachel Vaughan
SECFan04

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South Carolina will be really good next season. Excited to see some of the newcomers.

Tennessee has some really good kids coming in as well.

Obviously I still expect Florida to be the favorite but there are a few teams who will challenge IMO

I see A&M and LSU towards the very bottom of the conference. A&M loses way too much, and LSU is having to rebuilding an entire staff all over with a very anemic offense.

Every year there is usually a surprise that comes out of no where!
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Sec had to play several super matchups vs other sec teams so really it was unfair for them to have a lot of teams in the series. I don’t like the idea of matching teams up in supers. Once you get to World Series then seeds are what they are. It wouldn’t bother many coaches to move a team up or down one seed to prevent conference on conference matchups. With that being said only one team from sec was competitive and that’s was Florida. All and all it was not a good year given all the chances the conference had to prove it was a great conference. Make teams earn their rpi out of conference and then you would see a lot of sec teams to struggle to make it far in the postseason. I think there was a bunch of good teams and only one elite team in Florida. Bottom of the conference , like others have said is severely overrated. Other teams from conferences who were left out deserved a shot rather than ole miss and Missouri.
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Ole Miss and Missouri were Regional Finalists. Hard to say they didn't deserve to be there. 
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Ole Miss and Missouri were Regional Finalists. Hard to say they didn't deserve to be there. 


Agree.
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Ole Miss and Missouri were Regional Finalists. Hard to say they didn't deserve to be there. 


I agree

They can't be that horrible to make the regional finals



Mojoeraser if you'd like to throw out teams who should be in their places, would love to hear
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