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keepinitreal

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Pete and Repeet were sitting on the fence, Pete fell off, who was left on?
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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Pete and Repeet were sitting on the fence, Pete fell off, who was left on?

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He is getting himself really really worked up, yeah?
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I'm worried that he is showing signs like my dad did with dementia.  He's repeating himself with very little clarity.  I hope his family has a grasp of his slipping and sliding.  The new found paranoia is truly alarming
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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Both sides are guilty somewhat.  I've called the Clinton's murdering people and Obama being a foreigner falsehoods.  To be fair, I can't know for 100% certainty and shouldn't use the absolute.


Thanks for the brutal honesty, we waited long enough

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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I'm worried that he is showing signs like my dad did with dementia.  He's repeating himself with very little clarity.  I hope his family has a grasp of his slipping and sliding.  The new found paranoia is truly alarming

I think we should ask him to have his wife PM us, so we can talk in private to her about it.
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I think Early has her contact number, if EG gets tied up we can have spazsdad run by the house when dewy goes skating.  Tell her we're doing it, for the children
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Most of what we write is speculation.  The difference is the Right often tries to pass off speculation as fact.  They use words like "proven" as if that means it isn't still speculation.  If a Russian bot says our Labor Dept is cooking the books, the Right shares it as fact.  If the bot says Obama is not a US citizen, it's a fact.  Over and over they repeat statements as factual, statements which are too often far short of enough evidence to make them even remotely credible.

Both sides are guilty somewhat.  I've called the Clinton's murdering people and Obama being a foreigner falsehoods.  To be fair, I can't know for 100% certainty and shouldn't use the absolute. That aside, it's agreed speculation is the norm of the day and should always be challenged.  To swallow all speculation as fact is to invite many more bots.



Labor participation numbers are announced with much fanfare from the complacent media, only to be quietly revised a couple weeks later.

You implying the electorate is not smart enough to form their own conclusions?

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Labor participation numbers are announced with much fanfare from the complacent media, only to be quietly revised a couple weeks later. You implying the electorate is not smart enough to form their own conclusions?

Dewey figures that he is not smart enough to form his own conclusions, so there must be others that struggle with this magical feat as well. 
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In my opinion, adding family to the our commentary is in poor taste. You would be defensive if the tactic were reversed.

I'm not one of those that differentiates between separation of a person's view point and their person. The line,

"I respect you, but I don't respect your viewpoint."

...to me, hogwash. I am my viewpoint. But, I'll defend it, argue with the detractor and if we disagree, not an issue. Unless...

Bring family into the realm of discussion and I will react with all the venom the speaker deserves.

Do you really want to go down the road of targeting another UCS members significant other and family in mocking conversation? Laughs with some pretty low fruit. Don't be LAF.


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Most of what we write is speculation.  The difference is the Right often tries to pass off speculation as fact.  They use words like "proven" as if that means it isn't still speculation.  If a Russian bot says our Labor Dept is cooking the books, the Right shares it as fact.  If the bot says Obama is not a US citizen, it's a fact.  Over and over they repeat statements as factual, statements which are too often far short of enough evidence to make them even remotely credible.

Both sides are guilty somewhat.  I've called the Clinton's murdering people and Obama being a foreigner falsehoods.  To be fair, I can't know for 100% certainty and shouldn't use the absolute. That aside, it's agreed speculation is the norm of the day and should always be challenged.  To swallow all speculation as fact is to invite many more bots.


Is there any speculation that "Russian bots" are a factor at all in any political theater?  Or is this just more of Dewey seeing what might stick to the wall?

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Dewey learnt a new word.
Bot.
He knows as much about that as he does "assault" rifles

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In my opinion, adding family to the our commentary is in poor taste. You would be defensive if the tactic were reversed.

I'm not one of those that differentiates between separation of a person's view point and their person. The line,

"I respect you, but I don't respect your viewpoint."

...to me, hogwash. I am my viewpoint. But, I'll defend it, argue with the detractor and if we disagree, not an issue. Unless...

Bring family into the realm of discussion and I will react with all the venom the speaker deserves.

Do you really want to go down the road of targeting another UCS members significant other and family in mocking conversation? Laughs with some pretty low fruit. Don't be LAF.


Yeah.   You seemed to miss the calling people racist, misogynist and telling people that clearly served that they did not.  Was waiting for some outrage there, but not a peep.
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I know dewy can't differentiate speaking of one's family and speaking about it, he's pretty stoopid when concerning word and reading comprehension.  A wordsmith surely can tell the difference.  No harm was done to his family.  Until dewy comes clean all harm will be directed at dewy.  I still worry about his dark slide to becoming the babbling fool that he is now.  Now I want him to thank Bill as Will
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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Is there any speculation that "Russian bots" are a factor at all in any political theater?  Or is this just more of Dewey seeing what might stick to the wall?


Surely he didn't learn his vague knowledge of 'bots' from the internet did he?

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Yeah.   You seemed to miss the calling people racist, misogynist and telling people that clearly served that they did not.  Was waiting for some outrage there, but not a peep.


The attack on 'kiir' was duly noted. Most of my 'work' is usually done offline, though I believe some spilt into the forum on that issue. In case you missed my opinion, the owner of the website and any with moderator status were negligent in handling that specific situation. 

A lot of my initials have been flying but there is a limit or ceiling to the rhetoric. The group has gone beyond what I believe is common decency. However, it comes from both sides of this body of argumentative politically charged `baters. OK.

What was posted about 'kiir' went past any level of vitriol. Was specific, not just inflammatory. To the point legal action could be thought a possible remedy.

That said,

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I know dewy can't differentiate speaking of one's family and speaking about it, he's pretty stoopid when concerning word and reading comprehension.  A wordsmith surely can tell the difference.  No harm was done to his family.  Until dewy comes clean all harm will be directed at dewy.  I still worry about his dark slide to becoming the babbling fool that he is now.  Now I want him to thank Bill as Will


kiir, I'll defend you, but not the above. Have never asked, but assume a member taking on an alias is either attempting to spoof or fighting fire-with-fire. Adding that member's family to conversation is low as f, in my eyes.

You have every right to cry foul. A real tool of a poster attacked you in unconscionable fashion. As I said, should not have been condoned by the website poohbahs. 

Feigned 'worry' about an antagonist? OK. Adding family to the diatribe. No. Again, only my opinion.

Finish this by making a comparison to softball. Have had players pushed by opponents, coaches or umpires and decided to fight fire-with-fire. My line is always the same,

"Hey, I agree with you. However, by spouting off, you took away my chance to be your advocate. Now you get to sit next to me for a while."

Just to be clear, I'm not inviting any of y'all to sit next to me any time soon. That has to wait until February. [wave]

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The attack on 'kiir' was duly noted. Most of my 'work' is usually done offline, though I believe some spilt into the forum on that issue. In case you missed my opinion, the owner of the website and any with moderator status were negligent in handling that specific situation. 

A lot of my initials have been flying but there is a limit or ceiling to the rhetoric. The group has gone beyond what I believe is common decency. However, it comes from both sides of this body of argumentative politically charged `baters. OK.

What was posted about 'kiir' went past any level of vitriol. Was specific, not just inflammatory. To the point legal action could be thought a possible remedy.

That said,



kiir, I'll defend you, but not the above. Have never asked, but assume a member taking on an alias is either attempting to spoof or fighting fire-with-fire. Adding that member's family to conversation is low as f, in my eyes.

You have every right to cry foul. A real tool of a poster attacked you in unconscionable fashion. As I said, should not have been condoned by the website poohbahs. 

Feigned 'worry' about an antagonist? OK. Adding family to the diatribe. No. Again, only my opinion.

Finish this by making a comparison to softball. Have had players pushed by opponents, coaches or umpires and decided to fight fire-with-fire. My line is always the same,

"Hey, I agree with you. However, by spouting off, you took away my chance to be your advocate. Now you get to sit next to me for a while."

Just to be clear, I'm not inviting any of y'all to sit next to me any time soon. That has to wait until February. [wave]

Just calm down.  Clearly tongue in cheek asked Dewey to have his wife pm me.  The fact that you choosing that to get excited about is a laugh.
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Dewey has all that is coming to him.

He brought in on himself and doesn't need anyone to try to defend him.

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uwA- Was it clear it was tongue-in-cheek? Yup. Pointing out I'd prefer tongue was left in cheek.

TD The Narrator- Dewey? I was speaking of commentary directed at WIW, wasn't I? [tongue] And not defending anyone, pointing out that mockery that includes an individual's family isn't my cup of tea. Think it is LAF.

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uwA- Was it clear it was tongue-in-cheek? Yup. Pointing out I'd prefer tongue was left in cheek.

TD The Narrator- Dewey? I was speaking of commentary directed at WIW, wasn't I? [tongue] And not defending anyone, pointing out that mockery that includes an individual's family isn't my cup of tea. Think it is LAF.

You are free to declare anything you want LAF.  You think Dewey was going to actually have his wife pm me?  That is not some attack on a persons family.  

LAF is dewey needing you to come here and keep him from fully flipping out again. 
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uwA- Was it clear it was tongue-in-cheek? Yup. Pointing out I'd prefer tongue was left in cheek.

TD The Narrator- Dewey? I was speaking of commentary directed at WIW, wasn't I? [tongue] And not defending anyone, pointing out that mockery that includes an individual's family isn't my cup of tea. Think it is LAF.


Don't disagree at all - my apologies.  Thought you were defending Dewey.  He's gone off the deep end and deserves all that anyone here could say about him.

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LAF, in the eyes of the beholder. I think the person who attacked me with false allegations is 100% LAF as is his dual personality Fresh. I think dewy was afforded the opportunity here over the years to state his case and as it turned out his lying caught up with him. Everything now, in hindsight, that dewy ever wrote is LAF.

I mix hyperbole, jousting, common sense, clarity and intelligence in my posts. There's a reason that hyperbole was mentioned first. If you take me too seriously then you do so at your own risk. I have sort of evolved over the course of time but I didn't need to change or hide behind a fake or new handle to do it.

Bill thanks for calling out the indefensible and I did see you make a similar comment a few weeks back. I agree with Durden and uwa, dewy deserves what he gets. I will not apeal to his sense of decency because he is as subjective about decency as he is about his politics, 1 sided. He has about as much business with his 3 handles of being a moderator as I do.

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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OK, off my soap box. Still a fence rider on overall political issues.
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Speculation A - Illegal immigrants steal SS numbers and then some use them to vote in our elections.

Counter - Not sure how one registers to vote with a Social Security number and it has to be interesting when two individuals show up at voting location with same name and address.  I would think we would hear if this practice was common.  That said, I'm sure there are a couple of examples where this may be true and there's nothing wrong with sharing speculation coupled with some reasoning.


Speculation B - Enemies like the Russians invent and/or encourage internet claims of American politicians killing off their opposition for the purpose of political survival.  It kills two birds with one stone.  It enrages and divides American society, as many of our citizens will eat it up as factual and, secondly, it illustrates to the Russian society how the killing of political opponents is rumored all over the world and is something that should easily be ignored.

Counter -


When the Right has difficulty making a counter, many just call the speculation a lie, move on to the next issue, and hope nobody notices.  Red team/blue team.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

After being subjected to our first black President being called a liar, over and over, black Americans must fume when they hear the angry Right say they don't care about this President failing to be straight with the American people.  Can anyone blame them?  Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Speculation 1: Dewey will declare anything he does not agree with as muh Russia and Drump!

Speculation 2: The economy continues to improve, Trump is Regeanesque landslide winner in 2020, cause no one gave a sh!t about Dewey and his ramblings.  The enjoyed being gainfully employed, making money, raising their kids and participating in the greatest thing ever invented - The American Dream.
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Counter - when democrats on this forum have been exposed as hypocritical frauds that refuse to answer even basic questions about their beliefs, they create second and third handles so they can make it appear as if there are more that agree with their sentiments than actually do.
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dewey is back to his "When did you stop beating your wife" questions.
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Red team, vagina team
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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[PCvtC5C] 
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Smart woman
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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