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uwApoligist

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Seems republicans are starting to move forward with some red flag laws. 

We have aggressive ones here.  Originally I was concerned that the nutty left would use the law in stupid ways.  Like declare anyone who voted for Trump as crazy, kick in their doors and arrest them.

It really has not gone that way.  Actually quite the contrary.  Seattle has a crazy large number of seemingly mentally unstable homeless persons.  So far red flag laws seem to be largely being deployed against these persons. 



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That's where it starts. Then they will start scouring any electronic health records of the VA and then the general public. EHR with a prescription in your files of prozac, zoloft or cymbalta will get your guns taken away. We're going to have to draw a line somewhere for the advantage of all. Everyone should not own guns.
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How would red flag laws work around HIPA regulations. Any and all medical records are private. And if you lie on your form 4473 there is no way to check.
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How about a veteran that is suffering with PTSD? Should they never be able to take their son or daughter hunting because they saw some F'd up sh!t while doing their duty serving this nation? I suspect that many will forgo getting any help because they don't want to be labeled.
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Lie they will.  Got into the VA in early 2018, they try and press people to go to "the 6th floor". 

"You sure you don't need to go to the 6th floor?" 

"Hell no I don't need no 6th floor, thanks for asking"


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Still waiting to hear from a single dem what President Obama and the dems put forward when they had control of the White House and both chambers of Congress.
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This call for red flag laws is a tortured republican response because they just can't simply get themselves to support background checks and ban high-capacity rounds. It's your bed, now lie in it.

Background checks on personal sales in most communities is a complete and total waste of time.  Brothers, uncles, friends, family have been trading, selling and collecting guns for 100s of years.  It has always been fine and safe. 

In communities where person to person transfers are problematic, Chicago, Detroit, DC, New York, LA, those guns and those sales are already illegal. 

High capacity rounds is nothing more than a feel good bull5hit from the left.  There is zero difference from 30*5 round mags and 5*30 round mags.  5 minutes training yourself on tactical mag swaps and you will not even notice the reloads between mags.  Otherwise it is simple math.

Definitely share some of the concerns others have about the government using red flag laws inappropriately.   So far, in this red flag state, it does not seem to be happening.  They have had 5000 Extreme Risk Protection Order (ERPO) requests, and only removed weapons in 30 cases.  This is from the most whacko of blue areas.  Red states and moderately blue states will definitely be even better at it. 





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Still waiting to hear from a single dem what President Obama and the dems put forward when they had control of the White House and both chambers of Congress.



Another BINGO.

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This call for red flag laws is a tortured republican response because they just can't simply get themselves to support background checks and ban high-capacity rounds. It's your bed, now lie in it.


there are background checks required, except maybe in Constitutional Carry places.  Everywhere else has them.  Something the left always calls for, but already exists.

As for semi-auto bullets - they are the same bullets fired by non-semi rifles.  Your point is totally lost.
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Don't those semi-autos shatter tissue and bones? You don't need or want that for hunting, right?

What gonna kill a whole herd of something in 30 seconds like what happened in Dayton?



All high velocity rounds do massive wound channels and shatter bone, that is what they are designed to do. The cartridges fired from deer rifles are much more deadly than an AR-15 5.56 mm 55-64 grain traveling at 3148 fps or AK-47 7.62x39 mm 122-124 grain bullet traveling 2363 fps. Hunting rounds like the 30-06 are 150-180 grain bullets travel at 2815 fps and have double the energy of the smaller rounds. The shooter in El Paso likely was shooting full metal jacket bullets judging by the pass through wounds with small exit wounds I saw on television. These bullets while high velocity do not expand like a lead or copper hunting round. If you were shot by a hunting round the wound channel would be larger, and the exit wound would be much larger, often fist sized if bone were hit. People can and do survive being shot by AR-15's and AK-47's as well as pistol rounds. Getting shot by a 30-06 in the vitals in almost all cases would be fatal.

My AR-15's are great hog hunting guns. I use a heavier 64 grain barnes hunting bullet when shooting hogs because of the bullet expansion. When the opportunity arises, I shoot as many rounds as quickly as possible at them. I shoot does with an AR-15. On larger bucks I use a 7mm Mag or 30-06 because they get the job done with one shot every time.

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But your semi-auto guns aren't in meaning of the constitution when it was written. Perhaps you should go back to those guns that would miss from 10 paces 80 percent of the time. Then you might have a point. (Not my feeling about the constitution but your side's).

PS, The nurses said the victims who survived had shattered bones and tissues in El Paso. Try living with that.

Don't want those pieces of metal and bone in the deer meat right?


I hate to break it to you but a death shot is a death shot no matter what kind of gun is used.

Address the spiritual death march being progressively and more frequently displayed over the last 20 years as the cause and then we will get somewhere. Few will though because it's too scary to say out loud that this is the cause, so, as written, things will only get worse.
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But your semi-auto guns aren't in meaning of the constitution when it was written. Perhaps you should go back to those guns that would miss from 10 paces 80 percent of the time. Then you might have a point. (Not my feeling about the constitution but your side's).

PS, The nurses said the victims who survived had shattered bones and tissues in El Paso. Try living with that.

Don't want those pieces of metal and bone in the deer meat right?

There were certainly working repeating rifles that fired from rotating chambers being shown before the writing of the constitution.  The would have been very aware of the technology and it's implication.  Don't let the lefty propaganda muddle your brain mass.  You just have to think a bit. 

As far as the victims in El Paso.  You also thinking, at least a little bit, about what the Antifa guy did in Ohio?

Finally, you really want to avoid future occurrences you would be pushing for more aggressive care and addressing the mental health issue.


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Hey Twerp. Next time you have a thought to share grab a quill and parchment and write it down. Then post it in the village a square for all to read. Same logic, right. There was no form of mass electronic communication when the Constitution was written to help you exercise your freedom of speech.
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Janie said...........
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I hate to break it to you but a death shot is a death shot no matter what kind of gun is used.


Janie is correct.........

My Marine Corps training taught me "one shot - one kill"...........And, as a radio-operator that included my .45 pistol...........You don't deer hunt with that weapon..........
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Gee, does that mean that weapons common to that period of time like cannons should be legal for the public to legally own as well? I want my Howitzer. BS I think had a bazooka on his wish list, and flame throwers are legal to own. What do you want to ban next? The most vile killer of human life in America is PP, and I don't see scalpels, forceps and vacuums being outlawed.
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If you like your Impeachment, then you can keep your Impeachment. The Federal Government is not taking your Impeachment away.
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There's more guns on the streets in Chicago than in Afghanistan...........And, more folks shot each week in Chicago...........

So, just how effective are all these gun laws, Kazooey?
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America's gun laws are WEAK--and there is nothing to stop the interstate movement of guns, which is how most/a lot of guns get into cities
like Chicago. When the U.S. drastically reduces the number of guns that are made and sold, gun violence will decline significantly. We should get rid of guns altogether--though a realize the wingnuts like to play with their guns.



https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1160718290655645698

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America's gun laws are WEAK--and there is nothing to stop the interstate movement of guns, which is how most/a lot of guns get into cities
like Chicago. When the U.S. drastically reduces the number of guns that are made and sold, gun violence will decline significantly. We should get rid of guns altogether--though a realize the wingnuts like to play with their guns.



https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1160718290655645698


Pure guess on your part.  Let's see your data.

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America's gun laws are WEAK--and there is nothing to stop the interstate movement of guns, which is how most/a lot of guns get into cities
like Chicago. When the U.S. drastically reduces the number of guns that are made and sold, gun violence will decline significantly. We should get rid of guns altogether--though a realize the wingnuts like to play with their guns.



https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1160718290655645698

kaplooey is weak. Just like a beta

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