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Will_I_Wynn

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I said my efforts were not to persuade the Right who already has made up their mind.  My efforts are to allow readers to read what Obama actually said to clarify his position.  They can decide for themselves.

Obama - "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."


I can't pass a law that says, "I'm sorry, employers, you can never make changes to the health care plans that you provide your employees." What I can say is that the government is not going force you to-- your employer or you to join a government plan, for example. If you're happy with it, and your employer's happy with it, keep it.




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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


keepinitreal

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Except they did know, and a major architect of the plan admitted they had to lie to get it passed.  And not many on the left, just the few that are blinded.

Every time I read your painful excuses, it brings me back to George Costanza:

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keepinitreal

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Originally Posted by CoachB25
The lie Obama repeatedly told the American people was a lie from the onset.  He and the Democrats knew it.  Also, it changed 1/6th of this country's economy.  That law made individual American citizens criminals if they did not buy a product.  Perhaps I should look up his lie where he told the American People it was not a tax!  It is easy enough to find that one.


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uwApoligist

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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
I said my efforts were not to persuade the Right who already has made up their mind.  My efforts are to allow readers to read what Obama actually said to clarify his position.  They can decide for themselves.

Obama - "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."


I can't pass a law that says, "I'm sorry, employers, you can never make changes to the health care plans that you provide your employees." What I can say is that the government is not going force you to-- your employer or you to join a government plan, for example. If you're happy with it, and your employer's happy with it, keep it.




Maybe you should go away for a bit, come up with some evidence, then come back and try to sway the readers.  That may work a bit better than just rambling at them.

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TheNarrator

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He’s had no response for the tax quotes. Great work Coach
keepinitreal

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"Better yet, let's just shut down all the Democrat and Obama criticism, if you can't stand hearing anyone respond, and we'll make this all about softball again. I'm ready to stop when you guys are."

Duaine circa 2013

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Will_I_Wynn

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I said my efforts were not to persuade the Right who already has made up their mind.  My efforts are to allow readers to read what Obama actually said to clarify his position.  They can decide for themselves.

Obama - "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."


I can't pass a law that says, "I'm sorry, employers, you can never make changes to the health care plans that you provide your employees." What I can say is that the government is not going force you to-- your employer or you to join a government plan, for example. If you're happy with it, and your employer's happy with it, keep it.




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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


keepinitreal

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Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachB25
The lie Obama repeatedly told the American people was a lie from the onset.  He and the Democrats knew it.  Also, it changed 1/6th of this country's economy.  That law made individual American citizens criminals if they did not buy a product.  Perhaps I should look up his lie where he told the American People it was not a tax!  It is easy enough to find that one.


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Lost_1

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Or this one?





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Will_I_Wynn

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I believe anytime Government collects money from taxpayers, it's a tax.  Justice Roberts agreed.  President Obama and Republicans both thought the penalty wasn't a tax.  We now have our answer until some other SC changes it.

President Obama didn't believe he had the authority to do the DACA deal.  Lawyers finally convinced him otherwise and so the test decision began.  We still don't know if a President has such authority but we know he does have it until a Court says otherwise.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


uwApoligist

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Reply with quote  #101 
How about if the government forces people to spend money on stuff they do not need?  Besides fu*ked up, what do you call that?
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