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Softballfanatic

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I understand!!! Explain that to your friend POV!!


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to be fair---all political articles are biased and take shots at the opposition. They are writing for their target audience. Fire-up your fan base.

Political mud-slinging gets political mud slung back. It is a never-ending battle that goes forever and no one wins. Nomatter who is in office the other side will ride their every move. A conservative republican will be elected next year and the tea party (which did not exist during Bush) will all but disappear and a new party movement, that is mostly democrats, will arise and ride the new president. The new president may as well take a saddle to the white house.
That is politics--- "I'm right- you're wrong, and if you can't see that you are a moron". And political pinheads run their shows like reality tv talk shows but without the chants of "jerry, jerry".



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A slight simplification - the pinheads don't allow the guests to throw chairs at each other, and the guests don't require bodyguards to step between them.

I would suggest that the TEA party will not go quietly into their good night if 'their' candidate wins.  They will still pay attention.

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true........no wonder geraldo left the talk shows for Fox news. He isn't getting hit with chairs by nazis anymore nor uncovering empty vaults.

The Tea Party did not exist and complain about government size until Bush was out of office. Their first acts were not to attack government spending (which was the same a month before under Bush) but to attack obama being a citizen. Obama born in kenya, obama the muslim, obama the socialist, obama show us your birth cirtificate. Not one mention of debt ceiling or other issues when they first formed. Those talks did not happen til this summer. So if a Tea party candidate is president (michelle bachman and sarah palin if she runs) they are not going to have tea party adversity. And when criticized they can't play the racism card but they have one that will be just as good--the sexism card. Perry, romney, and the others just have to suck it up.
Wonder what the new "party" will call itself when obama is gone and tea party is an afterthought. It will be ultra liberal. Maybe they will call themselves the "dance party".


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I don't think Obama will lose. I think we are headed into one of the nastiest fights in history...the tea party will lead the fight..if Bachman or palin are even in the fight I will be surprised. Romney will lose a lot of money though! That's my prediction...oh and comments on this forum will hit a new low!
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Dem rep says Tea Party wants blacks 'hanging on tree'...

Masare, you mean comments like this? Oh wait, I thought the democRATS were wanting civility and an end to hateful rhetoric.

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Re-posted comments from poltitians and politcal pinheads do not represent members of this forum.

Rush and his sly racist comments towards obama, tea party polititans using the n-word then apologizing, tea party polititans referring to blacks as welfare monkeys, etc. ...so is it any wonder a black polititian would say what he did about the tea party.

The mudslinging goes both ways. Cannot make racist comments without expecting to be called a racist later....even if it was not your intention (michael richards comedy show blow-up for example). I don't post in outrage when mud is slung one way so I won't act outraged when it goes the other way too. Polititans act like spoiled kids in a sandbox fighting over a toy.

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If Romney were feared by the administration, they would not have had ABC News do a fluff ball interview with him. The administration wants to run against Romney. they don't want to run a campaign against a candidate that they cannot manipulate and control through their media outlets. Where is Ross Perot when the Dems need him??
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OK so I've stayed away from political discussions for a while.  Since the assertion is that Fox leans right, why condemn them when very definitely ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN are all left wing and not in small degrees.  The other night one CNN news commentator in the news portion of his broadcast had the audacity to proclaim that both Romney and Perry were, "stupid."  O'Riley called CNN out of this on his program and played the clip.  I can't think of a better example than that.

As an FYI, the racist claims by liberals about the tea party are, imo, racist claiming racism.  At the tea party meetings I've attended, there are many African Americans in attendance.  Correct me if I am wrong but Herman Cain is African American and running for President as a Tea Party advocate.  I wouldn't want our liberal friends to let facts get in the way of their racism. 

2012 will replace some legendary political elections as the dirtiest election campaign of all time in my opinion.  We have not even started yet.  I see a rift developing in our great nation that will continue to polarize the left and right.  Trends such as the continued rise in unemployment will only make matters worse.  I can foresee masses in the streets before this is all over and am hoping that what has happened in Europe will not happen here.
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CoachB25

Very, very well said. Thanks for joining.

Now, be prepared to be ripped limb from limb by those on the left. Don't let it stop you from posting though, they're ultimately harmless.
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Coach - I agree with you when you ask why anyone condemns Fox News for leaning Right.  I've said it before and I'll say it again, disparaging Fox News, Tea Party, Sarah Palin, or any other Conservative entity serves the Democrats no purpose whatsoever.  It simply energizes the opposition.  In defense of those who want to point out the political leanings of a news organization, I suspect it results from the constant cry of "left leaning lame stream media" whine we hear so often, (see woody).  That cry is equally a waste of time.

Finally, as for the unemployment trend being upward, I don't think so.  We are down from a high of 10% and are now flat.  As for your masses in the street prediction, I once again fight the urge to post that "sky is falling" cartoon.

swifty - I challenge you to pull out the worst attack from a left wing member and link it.  One minute your explaining why your side is so frustrated and subject to intense and vitriolic commentary and the next minute you wrongly suggest our side posts similarly.  If that's true, put it up there already.

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Dewey

Unlike you my life doesn't revolve around UCS and I don't spend my every waking minute memorizing each and every post made by my opposition so that I may pull it out of my a$$ on a whim to throw back in their face.

Additionally, if you are making the claim that POV, Masare, Dingdong and yes even JG in his own highbrow way, don't make mean spirited and sometimes nasty posts in response to right leaning posts, then your credibility is seriously in question.
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Finally, as for the unemployment trend being upward, I don't think so.  We are down from a high of 10% and are now flat.  As for your masses in the street prediction, I once again fight the urge to post that "sky is falling" cartoon.
 


Dewey, I could understand you calling my opinions cartoons.....But, please believe me when I tell you that the poster you were answering is far from being in my low rung on the ladder....I would not discount his views on the economy....Unlike me, he has credentials...
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Dewey

Unlike you my life doesn't revolve around UCS and I don't spend my every waking minute memorizing each and every post made by my opposition so that I may pull it out of my a$$ on a whim to throw back in their face. 


Funny, your last comment hit me right in the cheek...

swifty says - "Now, be prepared to be ripped limb from limb by those on the left."

Where did you pull this out of?


 
 

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The other night one CNN news commentator in the news portion of his broadcast had the audacity to proclaim that both Romney and Perry were, "stupid."


Who & When?  Just curious.
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Cafferty.

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Stupid like a fox? 


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I think it is stupid to call any of these politicians "stupid".  I think they are all very intelligent and worldly and understand the "Washington Way".  My favorite is Sarah Palin who is playing the system like a fiddle and laughing all the way to the bank while holding her daughter's hand and pointing the way.  Remember that our governmental system is called Capitalism (with a slight dash of Socialism to care for "the least of these").  The values therein under  Capitalism are thus words to live by, and the major value is "profit", personal or general.      
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bluedog - I learned to respect CoachB25's opinions long ago.  I would never discount them but I do wonder what is accomplished by suggesting our future is destined for civil unrest.  There must be a reason I keep hearing this from our friends on the Right and I imagine it's little more than thinly veiled campaign rhetoric.  If it's not for campaign purposes, then maybe someone can tell me what I'm supposed to do with this information of future unrest.

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Originally Posted by CoachB25
OK so I've stayed away from political discussions for a while.  Since the assertion is that Fox leans right, why condemn them when very definitely ABC, CBS, NBC and CNN are all left wing and not in small degrees.  The other night one CNN news commentator in the news portion of his broadcast had the audacity to proclaim that both Romney and Perry were, "stupid."  O'Riley called CNN out of this on his program and played the clip.  I can't think of a better example than that.

As an FYI, the racist claims by liberals about the tea party are, imo, racist claiming racism.  At the tea party meetings I've attended, there are many African Americans in attendance.  Correct me if I am wrong but Herman Cain is African American and running for President as a Tea Party advocate.  I wouldn't want our liberal friends to let facts get in the way of their racism. 

2012 will replace some legendary political elections as the dirtiest election campaign of all time in my opinion.  We have not even started yet.  I see a rift developing in our great nation that will continue to polarize the left and right.  Trends such as the continued rise in unemployment will only make matters worse.  I can foresee masses in the streets before this is all over and am hoping that what has happened in Europe will not happen here.


CNN,MNSBC and FOX all have cable news shows. Those shows have more commentators than ABC, NBC, CBS. These network might televise a Sunday talk show with opinions and guest.

Compare a network daily line-up to those on Cable and it is apple and oranges. The news is not the what makes money for the networks. The Cable shows are news oriented 24/7........the news makes them money. Thus the most entertaining  shows bring in the big advertising dollars. Reporting the cat ran up the tree is not going to bring in the dollars....but if the cat practiced a particular religion and was chased by a dog that practiced a particular religion.....the story becomes more interesting. More people may watch it and even take sides.

The one thing , I have been told in the entertainment industry over and over again is "To know my audience".....plenty of good actors, musicians, writers throughout the globe who have never learned this or care about it thus they don't reach the commercial success that others have.

I don't like Fox news because one day instead of using their energy to go after Obama. They decided to launch a smear campaign against my brother. Had the facts been checked they would have discovered their premise was incorrect. I personally believe they knew the premise was incorrect but he can be listed in categories very easy to stereotype....black, male, rapper......especially to the audience Fox targets......older, white, conservatives. It seemed like the plan was to discredit  my brother in order to throw mud at an event hosted by first lady at the White House.

After Fox launched attacks on my brother's character....which were false and to borrow from some of the conservatives here...."meant to incite" many shows attacked Fox. How it played out
Obama was hurt
Fox base audience got excited
MSNBC base audience got excited
Jon Stewart Fans got excited
My 13 year old niece had to leave school because of threat and attempts on her life. BTW....nobody reported that. Guess it failed all litmus test.

Then again my liberal racism might be blocking me from the real facts. So read into it what you want.




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Originally Posted by Dewey

Cafferty.

Link's not working right now, but I really wouldn't call Cafferty "hard news".  He's a grumpy grandpa.  I've heard him call everyone/everything stupid.

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Dewey

Unlike you my life doesn't revolve around UCS and I don't spend my every waking minute memorizing each and every post made by my opposition so that I may pull it out of my a$$ on a whim to throw back in their face. 


Funny, your last comment hit me right in the cheek...

swifty says - "Now, be prepared to be ripped limb from limb by those on the left."

Where did you pull this out of?


 
 


Right out of your a$$.  Same place as you get all of yours.
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Dewey said "swifty - I challenge you to pull out the worst attack from a left wing member and link it.  One minute your explaining why your side is so frustrated and subject to intense and vitriolic commentary and the next minute you wrongly suggest our side posts similarly.  If that's true, put it up there already.


Dewd, although a few of the threads have since been deleted, dingleberry, (POV), and goohawk have on several occasions called us "Teabaggers" which is a reference to a grotesque homosexual act.
Not to mention the fact that we have been told to go to hell, called Nazis, racists, and accused of wanting to see blacks hanging from trees from none other than your wonderful democrat leaders.

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Mr. Dewey, I would hope that what could be accomplished is that people like Congress persons Waters and Carson as well as Al Sharpton and many labor union leaders take heed and stop using violent rhetoric that is intended to incite an already frustrated base.  Your characterization of a real concern as campaign rhetoric is both naive and disingenuous.  As for your question of what you are supposed to do with the information, I hope you take it to heart and encourage those you support to tone it down.  Most of the examples of civil unrest I have witnessed come from the left and always have.
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Dewey said "swifty - I challenge you to pull out the worst attack from a left wing member and link it.  One minute your explaining why your side is so frustrated and subject to intense and vitriolic commentary and the next minute you wrongly suggest our side posts similarly.  If that's true, put it up there already.


Dewd, although a few of the threads have since been deleted, dingleberry, (POV), and goohawk have on several occasions called us "Teabaggers" which is a reference to a grotesque homosexual act.
Not to mention the fact that we have been told to go to hell, called Nazis, racists, and accused of wanting to see blacks hanging from trees from none other than your wonderful democrat leaders.


Dewey asked for examples of "progressive/liberal" board members attacking right-leaning board members.  Using a Congressman's attack on Tea Party members (I have NEVER used the term you mentioned) & other comments from our "wonderful democrat leaders" doesn't cut it.  It is YOUR side that uses all the derogatory references to board members - "dingleberry", "POV", "goohawk", "Dewd", "dingdong", among others.  And then there are all the references to our President, his wife, the VP, democratic Congressmen & women, democRats, etc., etc.  That type of juvenile name-calling doesn't help your side at all & should cease.
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Dewd, although a few of the threads have since been deleted, dingleberry, (POV), and goohawk have on several occasions called us "Teabaggers" which is a reference to a grotesque homosexual act.



JD - As far as I can tell, there was one intentional use of the term and once it was used without understanding the meaning.  Do you remember when POV said this...

......on another note.After years on this board I can't remember when one poster declared that another poster was committing a sexual act on an elected official (or anyone else for that matter) just because they disagreed.........  truly a commemorative moment. 

You actually came out and praised the post and the poster.  For you to even play a part in this debate is questionable. 

I wanted no part of a "no you're worse than us" exchange but, since I'm here, I'll say this.  There is no doubt this anonymity opens up some folks to say whatever they want.  Swifty told me this belief is inaccurate and suggested he/she never said anything he/she wouldn't want their family to read.  Well, I have three grown daughters and if they ever came on here and saw their father call a couple of grown adults, who he didn't know and never met, a couple of GoStupids, their brows would raise simultaneously and I'd be as embarrassed as a man can be.  As GoYard said, it ought to stop. 
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Talk about connotations
Teabag - the thing you dunk in water to make tea
or what Michael Jordan did to opponents many times:

Although some teabags are worse than others:


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It is ironic that we have a tread such as this?  I guess the left does not realize how blatant NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC ... lean to the left.  In no way are they as balanced as Fox is.  For example, left leaning contributors on Fox include Juan Williams, Bob Beckel, Alan Combs, and Mara Liasson.  BTW, how did Mara keep her job with NPR while she continues to contribute to Fox programming while Juan Williams lost his job at NPR for contributing to Fox.  However, that is another issue.  Please list right leaning contributors to any of the programming of the aforementioned left leaning networks that have the credentials of these people contributing for Fox.

An example of the left leaning that is ignored by the left while they condemn Fox would be the interview this past week by Matt Laur with Dick Cheney.  Laur closed the segment by thanking Cheney for appearing and then the camera panned out only to then focus on people outside on the street.  The camera then zoomed in on a sign held that stated that Cheney should be investigated for torture.  It held that image for some time as they then went in to commercial.  IMO, that was a low life tactic by the left leaning Today Show and the producers of NBC.  Cheney didn't have any idea that they had closed his segment with that cheap shot. 
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  Please list right leaning contributors to any of the programming of the aforementioned left leaning networks that have the credentials of these people contributing for Fox.



Again, I agree with you that bashing Fox News leads Democrats nowhere but, since you asked for some examples of conservative commentators, I'll include these:

Bill Bennett, Michael Steele, J.C. Watts, Joe Scarborough, George Will, Peggy Noonan, Todd Harris, and Pat Buchanan.  Meet the Press generally has Conservative contributors as guests on the show.

I suspect the likes of Hannity and Beck, and their admitted campaigns to take down this President, lead many to hold negative views of Fox.  Few shows on other networks are designed like Hannity's and few hosts interrupt a political view like he does.  Without Alan Colmes, this show is very hard to watch as a Progressive.  Your point regarding the Today Show indicates Conservatives have their troubling moments as well.
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