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Gators2014

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What's your team's projected starting lineup and pitching depth chart? I'm lazy and don't want to look at every team's roster.

Maybe wait a few days in case your team picks up a high profile Oregon transfer LOL. 
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FLORIDA  GATORS

Updated projected starting lineup with career numbers:
  1. Hannah Adams, 2B, So. (L) .276 BA, .788 OPS
  2. Amanda Lorenz, LF, Sr. (L) .401 BA, 1.221 OPS
  3. Kendyl Lindaman, DP/C, Jr. (R) .393 BA, 1.430 OPS (B10) 
  4. Jordan Matthews, 1B, So. (L) .274 BA, .827 OPS
  5. Roberts/Romanello, C/DP, Jr/So. (R/L) .268 BA, .868 OPS/.182 BA, .491 OPS (44 AB)
  6. Hannah Sipos, 3B, Fr. (R) 
  7. Jaimie Hoover, RF, Jr. (R) .244 BA, .823 OPS
  8. Jade Caraway, CF, Jr. (L) .327 BA, .831 OPS (ACC)
  9. Sophia Reynoso, SS, RS-Jr. (R), .264 BA, .750 OPS
Pitching Depth Chart with career numbers:
  1. Kelly Barnhill (R), Sr. - .92 ERA, 515.1 IP, 847 K, .124 BAA
  2. Megan Kleist (lolz please)
  3. Natalie Lugo (R), So. - 2.41 ERA, 32 IP, 39 K, .207 BAA
  4. Danni Farley (R), Fr.
  5. Katie Chronister (L), Jr. - 3.00 ERA, 35 IP, 34 K, .226 BAA
  6. Elizabeth Hightower (R), Fr. 
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FLORIDA  GATORS

Updated projected starting lineup with career numbers:
  1. Hannah Adams, 2B, So. (L) .276 BA, .788 OPS
  2. Amanda Lorenz, LF, Sr. (L) .401 BA, 1.221 OPS
  3. Kendyl Lindaman, DP/C, Jr. (R) .393 BA, 1.430 OPS (B10) 
  4. Jordan Matthews, 1B, So. (L) .274 BA, .827 OPS
  5. Roberts/Romanello, C/DP, Jr/So. (R/L) .268 BA, .868 OPS/.182 BA, .491 OPS (44 AB)
  6. Hannah Sipos, 3B, Fr. (R) 
  7. Jaimie Hoover, RF, Jr. (R) .244 BA, .823 OPS
  8. Jade Caraway, CF, Jr. (L) .327 BA, .831 OPS (ACC)
  9. Sophia Reynoso, SS, RS-Jr. (R), .264 BA, .750 OPS
Pitching Depth Chart with career numbers:
  1. Kelly Barnhill (R), Sr. - .92 ERA, 515.1 IP, 847 K, .124 BAA
  2. Megan Kleist (lolz please)
  3. Natalie Lugo (R), So. - 2.41 ERA, 32 IP, 39 K, .207 BAA
  4. Danni Farley (R), Fr.
  5. Katie Chronister (L), Jr. - 3.00 ERA, 35 IP, 34 K, .226 BAA
  6. Elizabeth Hightower (R), Fr. 


Is Kleist getting her degree before transferring because that is the only way she is wearing a Gator (or any SEC) Uniform in 2019? Unless she is a graduate transfer she would have to sit out a year before being eligible in the SEC with only 1 year of eligibility left.
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LSU TIGERS

1. Aliyah Andrews, LF, Junior (L) .322 BA
2. Taryn Antoine, RF, Sophomore (L) .254 BA
3. Amanda Doyle, 1B, Junior (R) .284 BA
4. Amanda Sanchez, 2B/3B, Senior (L) .356 BA
5. Shelbi Sunseri, DP, Sophomore (R) .261 BA
6. Michaela Schlattman, C, Senior (R) .248 BA
7. Shemiah Sanchez, 2B/3B, Senior (R) .240 BA
8. Amber Serrett, SS, Senior (R) .264
9. Savannah Stewart, CF, Freshman (L)

The bottom portion of the lineup concerns me, hopefully someone steps up. Georgia Clark (Freshman) should see significant time hitting for the tigers. She had a strong fall with multiple dingers. LSU could use more power to the lineup, but mainly someone who can hit for average, I think she can provide that. Kara Goff looks very improved, I imagine she will be used a bit for pinch hitting situations. She provides another option from the left side of the plate.

Pitching:

1. Maribeth Gorsuch (R), Junior 2.85 ERA, 108 IP
2. Shelby Wickersham (R), Freshman
3. Ali Kilponen (R), Freshman
4. Shelbi Sunseri (R), Sophomore 3.68 ER, 13.1 IP

Gorsuch should see a lot of time as she is the most experienced. She got called on for illegal pitches a bit this fall which was a little concerning. Outside of that she looked fine. Both the freshmen looked very strong this fall, either one could be picked honestly. Both have stuff to clean up but they should both should have very solid years. Not sure what to expect of freshmen pitchers. Sunseri was hit or miss with the pitching this fall, sometimes she doesn't spin the ball and it doesn't move much. When she is on she is very good though.
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Is Kleist getting her degree before transferring because that is the only way she is wearing a Gator (or any SEC) Uniform in 2019? Unless she is a graduate transfer she would have to sit out a year before being eligible in the SEC with only 1 year of eligibility left.


She mentioned in her twitter statement that she was continuing her education and softball career at another school. At any rate, I would be pretty surprised if she ends up anywhere other than ULL.
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Ok I was kidding on Kleist. Let's not go further and turn this into another thread about her please. [biggrin][cool]
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She mentioned in her twitter statement that she was continuing her education and softball career at another school. At any rate, I would be pretty surprised if she ends up anywhere other than ULL.
My only counter would be that ULL has to have used every cent they have for 2019 to get the high-profile transfers that they have already
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An Oklahoma lineup: 

1B Shay Knighten
2B Caleigh Clifton
3B Sydney Romero
SS Grace Lyons
RF Raegan Rogers
CF Nicole Mendes
LF Jocelyn Alo
C Lynnsie Elam
DP Fale Aviu/Eliyah Flores
SP Giselle Juarez
SP Shannon Saile
SP Mariah Lopez
SP Brooke Vestal
SP Parker Conrad

Legit ace, maybe two, in the circle. Lot 'o pitching depth for sure. Once Vestal learns the craft of pitching (vs. throwing) I believe she can be a top of the rotation option as well.

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An Oklahoma lineup: 

1B Shay Knighten
2B Caleigh Clifton
3B Sydney Romero
SS Grace Lyons
RF Raegan Rogers
CF Nicole Mendes
LF Jocelyn Alo
C Lynnsie Elam
DP Fale Aviu/Eliyah Flores
SP Giselle Juarez
SP Shannon Saile
SP Brooke Vestal
SP Mariah Lopez
SP Parker Conrad




Any idea on potential batting order? Vestal over Lopez?
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An Oklahoma lineup: 

1B Shay Knighten
2B Caleigh Clifton
3B Sydney Romero
SS Grace Lyons
RF Raegan Rogers
CF Nicole Mendes
LF Jocelyn Alo
C Lynnsie Elam
DP Fale Aviu/Eliyah Flores
SP Giselle Juarez
SP Shannon Saile
SP Brooke Vestal
SP Mariah Lopez
SP Parker Conrad


DP could also be Kylie Lundberg and if you was posting the pitching depth I would switch Lopez and vestal. Everybody else I completely agree on
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Originally Posted by RahOKU
An Oklahoma lineup: 

1B Shay Knighten
2B Caleigh Clifton
3B Sydney Romero
SS Grace Lyons
RF Raegan Rogers
CF Nicole Mendes
LF Jocelyn Alo
C Lynnsie Elam
DP Fale Aviu/Eliyah Flores
SP Giselle Juarez
SP Shannon Saile
SP Mariah Lopez
SP Brooke Vestal
SP Parker Conrad

Legit ace, maybe two, in the circle. Lot 'o pitching depth for sure. Once Vestal learns the craft of pitching (vs. throwing) I believe she can be a top of the rotation option as well.



I would think Alo would be in the lead off. Then the rest fall as listed. Romero in leadoff could also work, followed by Alo then as listed.

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I would think Alo would be in the lead off. Then the rest fall as listed. Romero in leadoff could also work, followed by Alo then as listed.


I would think someone else would lead off with the injuries Shay has had.  
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Any idea on potential batting order? Vestal over Lopez?

Batting order guess:

CF Mendes
2B Clifton
LF Alo
1B Knighten
3B Romero
DP Aviu
C Elam
SS Lyons
RF Rogers

Pretty fierce 1-6. I like Rogers as a second leadoff in the 9-hole. I think Lundberg and Flores will get lots of ABs as well.

As for pitching depth, I think Juarez and Saile are 1-2. Lopez is a solid #3. She throws strikes (maybe too many), which PG likes. Vestal won't transfer. She was an early OU commit and a former #1 in the recruiting rankings., With the depth of this staff, Vestal has time to develop properly. 

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Any idea on potential batting order? Vestal over Lopez?


Batting order guess:.

As for pitching depth, I think Juarez and Saile are 1-2. Lopez is a solid #3. She throws strikes (maybe too many), which PG likes. Vestal won't transfer. She was an early OU commit and a former #1 in the recruiting rankings., With the depth of this staff, Vestal has time to develop properly. 



That is precisely the reason she would transfer. All that other early recruit, former #1 stuff is just noise to most kids. If she is ANY kind of type A competitor, why would she stick around knowing she "has time to develop properly"? Especially if she actually believes all that stuff. 

I hope you're right. I'd love to see her blow doors as a Freshman. IF she is given some early oppt to pitch and IF she doesn't meltdown leading to the quick hook, look for positive things from her. That's a couple of big IFs though. 


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UW starters (returning = *; transfer = +):

1) SS Sis Bates* Jr
2) RF Livy Schiele+ RS-Fr
3) C Morganne Flores* Jr
4) DP Noelle Hee* So
5) 1B Emma Helm* So
6) CF Amirah Milloy Sr
7) 3B Nawai Kaupe So
8) LF Madi Huskey Fr/Kaija Gibson Jr
9) 2B Taryn Atlee* Jr/Silent Rain Espinoza Fr

P Taran Alvelo* Sr
P Gabbie Plain* So
BP Pat Moore+ So/Mckenzie Schulz Fr
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FSU

1. Herzog CF
2. Casas RF
3. Sherrill 3B
4. Mason DH
5. Gordon 1B
6. Shelnutt C
7. Benivedas 2B
8. Morgan LF
9. Harrod SS
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Waiting for that projected Oregon starting lineup to pop up on this thread, hahaha!
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That is precisely the reason she would transfer. All that other early recruit, former #1 stuff is just noise to most kids. If she is ANY kind of type A competitor, why would she stick around knowing she "has time to develop properly"? Especially if she actually believes all that stuff. 

I hope you're right. I'd love to see her blow doors as a Freshman. IF she is given some early oppt to pitch and IF she doesn't meltdown leading to the quick hook, look for positive things from her. That's a couple of big IFs though. 




I can think of at least one terrific reason Vestal might bide her time as a freshman, trusting Jen Rocha to develop her as a pitcher: legit shot at a NC.

If she's ready to blow the doors off as a freshman, nobody will keep her out of the circle. You make it sound like Vestal won't get any chances to show what she can do. Gasso and Rocha want to find this out -- even more than all of us do.
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Waiting for that projected Oregon starting lineup to pop up on this thread, hahaha!


Here ya go:

1B - Donald duck
2B - Daffy Duck
3B - count Duckula
SS - AFLAC Duck
LF - Huey
CF - Dewie
RF - louie
C - scrooge mcduck
DP - Daisy Duck

P - Maggie Balint
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Waiting for that projected Oregon starting lineup to pop up on this thread, hahaha!


I'll give it a shot:

1- Cherish Burks - CF - SR
2- Alexis Mack - LF - SR
3- April Utecht - DP - SR
4- Rachel Cid - 3B - FR
5- Shaye Bowden - C - SO
6- Allee Bunker - 2B - FR
7- Mia Camuso - 1B - JR
8- Jasmine Sievers - SS - FR
9- Haley Cruse - RF - JR

Pitching:
1- Maggie Balint - JR
2- Jordan Dail - SO

The only other players would be: Darya Kaboli-Nejad (SR), Hannah Galey (FR), and Lexi Wagner (FR) but what really frightens me is the number of pitchers, you CANNOT play an entire season of softball with only 2 pitchers on the entire roster.
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I can think of at least one terrific reason Vestal might bide her time as a freshman, trusting Jen Rocha to develop her as a pitcher: legit shot at a NC.

If she's ready to blow the doors off as a freshman, nobody will keep her out of the circle. You make it sound like Vestal won't get any chances to show what she can do. Gasso and Rocha want to find this out -- even more than all of us do.


By this time, the coach knows who the starters are. If who the coach thinks will get the job done does get the job done then there won’t be a lot of innings for the 3,4,5 pitchers. They may all get some chances early in pre conference games, but the ones that shut down the offenses will be the ones getting the most innings. Patty has been known to use 3 pitchers more consistently, but most programs don’t do that. (But, Patty may have only done that because she had the flame thrower to insert when needed.)
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I can think of at least one terrific reason Vestal might bide her time as a freshman, trusting Jen Rocha to develop her as a pitcher: legit shot at a NC.

If she's ready to blow the doors off as a freshman, nobody will keep her out of the circle. You make it sound like Vestal won't get any chances to show what she can do. Gasso and Rocha want to find this out -- even more than all of us do.


There was a time when Gasso had big chips invested in Vestel, right up until she agreed to take Saile & then Juarez.

Gasso understands potentially winning NOW & for the next 2 years with Jaurez & Saile is way more important than surrendering all important live game innings to a Freshman she needs to develop. And how is she supposed to know if she's ready if she doesn't give her the reps? Vestel would have to look super human to get the nod over the experience of Jaurez/Saile. 

And if you believe Vestel will stick around for 3 full seasons getting "developed" by Rocha for the chance at a NC...well, you've got an extremely optimistic outlook. She can transfer & play immed for many teams. 

As a Freshman Vestel will get limited oppt to pitch well until she shows weakness. Job security dictates Gasso will most likely put the ball in the experienced hands of Jaurez & Saile. 


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Should we feel bad for Vestal, or should Gasso of told her to look elsewhere long ago, I mean she cannot be happy that OK took two pitching transfers.
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Should we feel bad for Vestal, or should Gasso of told her to look elsewhere long ago, I mean she cannot be happy that OK took two pitching transfers.


Gasso is doing what any Coach would do. And no, don't feel sorry for Vestel. If she's a competitor she'll work her tail off and earn the innings. If not, she is free to transfer if it doesn't work out this season for her. Be assured, Rocha is working with her in the bullpen like she is the pre-season #1. 

And along those lines, I bet Murphy/Alabama is wishing he'd not jumped the gun and taken Cornell/Hofstra so fast. With all the pitchers pinballing around no doubt he could've have snagged at least one of them. 
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An Oklahoma lineup: 

1B Shay Knighten
2B Caleigh Clifton
3B Sydney Romero
SS Grace Lyons
RF Raegan Rogers
CF Nicole Mendes
LF Jocelyn Alo
C Lynnsie Elam
DP Fale Aviu/Eliyah Flores
SP Giselle Juarez
SP Shannon Saile
SP Mariah Lopez
SP Brooke Vestal
SP Parker Conrad

Legit ace, maybe two, in the circle. Lot 'o pitching depth for sure. Once Vestal learns the craft of pitching (vs. throwing) I believe she can be a top of the rotation option as well.

In my gut I don’t think Lopez will stay at OU she was going to number 1 till Juarez and Saile transfered.
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Kelly, what makes you think that? She seems to be happy via her social media, but of course that could be just highlight reels. She has gotten a fair amount of innings with other AA pitchers on staff so I don’t really see her role diminishing, maybe you are close to the program and have better insights than myself?
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Kelly, what makes you think that? She seems to be happy via her social media, but of course that could be just highlight reels. She has gotten a fair amount of innings with other AA pitchers on staff so I don’t really see her role diminishing, maybe you are close to the program and have better insights than myself?
Put your self in her shoes would you want to stay when you thought you was going to be number 1 now you are number 3?Defiantly dont want to start anything. Maybe I’m just over thinking it.
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Put your self in her shoes would you want to stay when you thought you was going to be number 1 now you are number 3?Defiantly done want to start anything. Maybe I’m just over thinking it.


As corny as it sounds, there's a selflessness in this program, a culture of accepting your role for the good of the whole. Gascoigne played second fiddle to Ricketts. Brianna Turang hit .400 from the 9-hole, and there are other examples. Not always. But more than would be logical. I'm not guaranteeing Patty holds Lopez or anyone else, but the sense of "team" is strong there. We'll have to see what happens.
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I thinks it’s way too early to say she is the #3, but that’s just my opinion. I think they have a solid group of pitchers and it should help them make another deep run.

RahOKU, you are so correct in your analysis of the program, many kids that have come through there and some presently could have started on many Top 25 teams but chose to stay and stick it out. Your analysis is the main reason why the Oregon debacle baffles me, seeing that ML would more than likely model her program after what she knows and what she knows is how Coach Gasso runs her program.
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Damn so everyone leaving OU because of competition according to all the keyboard warriors. Lopez wil transfer her senior year? I doubt it. If she were unhappy wouldn't she go now like the other transfers? Vestal going to transfer because of the pitchers coming in. Give me a break. You know Lopez will still get a lot of innings. At worst she's going to keep the same role she had. I think her role will actually increase as far as important innings. And do most people expect Vestal to come into OU and be the ace as a freshman? Saile, Juarez, Lopez, and Conrad are all juniors. So Vestal could still very well be the ace her junior year. 


It cracks me up how all the other teams get transfers and its a non event but at OU its somehow slighting the players already there. OU had 2 girls transfer out for lack of playing time. 1 was a pitcher. They had 2 girls transfer in. 2 pitchers. So basically they just held water and gained a pitcher. When losing 2 pitchers the caliber Parker and Lowary it would make sense to add pitching. And if Vestal is as advertised she could very well be the ace her junior year. Nothing to see here. If you want excitment go to Oregon and Horn threads.
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