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TheNarrator

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i am not sure republicans will fall for that this time around.  i have seen where one lunatic dem only wanted everify for new hires, not for existing employees.  How much sense does that make?
Will_I_Wynn

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Again, I think some republicans fall for the lies of the left. 




So you think Republicans like TheNarrator have been duped by the Left?  You don't think they have good reasons for not supporting a wall?  Really?  We have 700 miles of fencing and still have an immigration problem.  How long before you see fencing is an expensive option that isn't working that well?


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uwApoligist

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i am not sure republicans will fall for that this time around.  i have seen where one lunatic dem only wanted everify for new hires, not for existing employees.  How much sense does that make?

Yeah, I think in the past for some republicans it has been a combination of the cost.  They are fiscally responsible persons, which is a great thing.  And the fact that dems constantly make promises of doing things 'another way'.  

I think they have come to realize that dems were lying the entire time.  The sanctuary cities, the sanctuary states.  AOC clearly stating their goals and aspirations.   Even the more fiscally responsible have to look at all of that with raw horror.

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But do you think TheNarrator has been duped by the Left or do you think he believes a wall is a waste of money?
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4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

uwApoligist

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i am not sure republicans will fall for that this time around.  i have seen where one lunatic dem only wanted everify for new hires, not for existing employees.  How much sense does that make?

I think the democrats have counted on these republicans to support their nonsense and lies.  That is not happening this time.

Also there exists the so called union democrats and the black folks who used to be democrat but walked away.  They are uniformly very keen on these extensive new border security measures.

This is how this issue gets to 80% polling.

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uwApoligist

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The border patrols request for securing the border correctly.

700 miles of existing fencing

316 miles of new fencing getting us to 970 total miles or about 50% of the entire border.

407 miles of replacement of completely inadequate secondary fencing.  Also patching of open fence areas left by past budgetary shortfalls.

There is also significant monies for additional agents.  For technology upgrades on the fencing.  For cameras.  Also cameras and technology at the ports of entry.

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Agree,  They endlessly prove that it does not matter the proposal.  They will sit on it and say, "oh we want border security, just not that border security".  It has been that way for 50 years.  Then they go and open sanctuary cities and sanctuary states.   

Then A Ocasio-Cortez comes right out and says.  She is for open borders.  Calls for the abolishing of ICE.  Says that illegal immigrants are more American than Americans.

Too bad some republicans actually believe their lies.


Not one liberal on this site can dispute that in 2017 the Democrats helped sponsor a response bill that included $25+ Billion for the wall! 

 Not one liberal on this site can dispute Trump's numbers.  80% of the women report that they are raped.  Look at the human trafficking!  Look at the drug running!  Liberals don't care.  They just passed a Bill in the House that give billions to overseas countries.  They spend money to secure our border?  This is about the 2020 Election and the Democrats could care less about our country's crisis at the border.


BTW, did you see the left wing MSM respond by mocking the crisis and disputing claims of people dying?  It is embarrassing that we have a MSM that would make these statements.  It is embarrassing that the shills on late night TV did the same mocking families that have lost their loved ones!  I heard one dad of a young man who was killed by an illegal immigrant say that Nancy would change her mind if her child was killed.  This angers me so much.  How pathetic the Democratic Party has become!

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Will_I_Wynn

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I guess you'll never see it from my perspective.  Fencing is never going to counter businesses hiring the illegals that make it through.  TheNarrator, despite the fact he chooses not to say right now, and other Republicans understand as much.  Mostly just Trump supporters want to keep wasting money on methods that fail.

If you want to see "triggered", check out the GOP complaining about not getting the Democrats to cave.  If this shutdown works, then the next time the GOP wants something (be it a ban on abortion or arming school teachers) they'll just shut down the Government again.  You have to pass budgets and legislation with votes, not shutdowns.

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Not one liberal on this site can dispute that in 2017 the Democrats helped sponsor a response bill that included $25+ Billion for the wall! 

 Not one liberal on this site can dispute Trump's numbers.  80% of the women report that they are raped.  Look at the human trafficking!  Look at the drug running!  Liberals don't care.  They just passed a Bill in the House that give billions to overseas countries.  They spend money to secure our border?  This is about the 2020 Election and the Democrats could care less about our country's crisis at the border.


BTW, did you see the left wing MSM respond by mocking the crisis and disputing claims of people dying?  It is embarrassing that we have a MSM that would make these statements.  It is embarrassing that the shills on late night TV did the same mocking families that have lost their loved ones!  I heard one dad of a young man who was killed by an illegal immigrant say that Nancy would change her mind if her child was killed.  This angers me so much.  How pathetic the Democratic Party has become!

100% agree coach.

I think some that think that fix the problem after they get into the country fail to realize that many many of these illegals are not working.  Just hitting the taxpayer dole.  Relying on the fact that Americans take care of people.  Or not working legitimate jobs, just under the table quick cash jobs. 

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100% agree coach.

I think some that think that fix the problem after they get into the country fail to realize that many many of these illegals are not workingThey SHOULDN'T be working until they clear up their documentation. just hitting the taxpayer dole.  Relying on the fact that Americans take care of people.  Or not working legitimate jobs, just under the table quick cash jobs. 


That's what they do now.  If you toughen everify the under the table crowd would explode in numbers, it happens now before everify much more than is reported, it would be too tough to manage and control the numbers. More reaction vs. proaction, it's clearly easy to see the 'reactivists' among us, the beta born FOLLOWERS are easy to spot, they're usually white, liberal males.  

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spazsdad

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi & Sen. Chuck Schumer said in their address last night that if Trump opens the government they'll talk securing the border. The President gave them that offer today, but they immediately rejected it.

Why do dems lie
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi & Sen. Chuck Schumer said in their address last night that if Trump opens the government they'll talk securing the border. The President gave them that offer today, but they immediately rejected it.

Why do dems lie


Lying liars were born to lie.

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Will_I_Wynn

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President Trump is already putting excuses out there.  He says the first ones to get mad at him, should he reopen the Government, will be his Senators.  Yeah right.  These same Senators may soon reopen the Government without him.
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Lying liars were born to lie.

Its all they got.
Speaking of liars where has the DewFreshKaploo Crew been today
Will_I_Wynn

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President Trump is already putting excuses out there.  He says the first ones to get mad at him, should he reopen the Government, will be his Senators.  Yeah right.  These same Senators may soon reopen the Government without him.


If you think about it, the real Irony is that several members of the Trump Administration are likely to end up behind a steel wall.


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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
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3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

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That's what they do now.  If you toughen everify the under the table crowd would explode in numbers, it happens now before everify much more than is reported, it would be too tough to manage and control the numbers. More reaction vs. proaction, it's clearly easy to see the 'reactivists' among us, the beta born FOLLOWERS are easy to spot, they're usually white, liberal males.  



Who was that douche that used to post here about his low-IQ belief that e-verify was the answer to all our illegal immigration problems? No wonder he slunk off, he'd be embarrassed af if he was still around.

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uwApoligist

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Who was that douche that used to post here about his low-IQ belief that e-verify was the answer to all our illegal immigration problems? No wonder he slunk off, he'd be embarrassed af if he was still around.

Complete goof for sure.  Why would we allow them to be here, with no work.  Do we want to mount massive amounts of debt on our children?

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Who was that douche that used to post here about his low-IQ belief that e-verify was the answer to all our illegal immigration problems? No wonder he slunk off, he'd be embarrassed af if he was still around.


One of the goofiest plans ever.  Not even the far left border deniers are trumpeting such an unworkable plan.  I think that was dewey who came up with that plan at one of his taco Tuesday beer bashes with his Alzheimers crowd.

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uwApoligist

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One of the goofiest plans ever.  Not even the far left border deniers are trumpeting such an unworkable plan.  I think that was dewey who came up with that plan at one of his taco Tuesday beer bashes with his Alzheimers crowd.

Alzheimers - That could explain it.

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