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woody

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Okay, you've hit on a subject where we could have common ground. Do you REALLY want him to burn down the GOP?  Or just the DNC?  Because I will be honest here, I would friggin love it if both parties were burned to the ground. Destroyed. But I can only wrap my brain around that happening to one party or the other and given a choice, I'd go with burning the GOP. But my preference is absolutely for burning both to the ground.

Are you really for burning the GOP to the ground?


I am for burning both parties to the ground and p*ssing on the ashes. However, unlike you, I am not an Anarchist. I am a fiscal Conservative. I also believe in helping people who are the least of us, and deserve our help. But I detest the Federal government, and in particular Socialist Democrats creating an ignorant, if not stupid subservient welfare class, that subsist off of government handouts (tax dollars). So yes I am for burning it all down. Save for a few Tea Party, and HFC members, and a few Senators, get them all out of office, and get citizen legislators in there.

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You Liberals crying for open borders for the most part, don't live on the border. You are therefore insulated from illegal immigration. You are immune from the local costs involved, both economic, and in lives lost. So unless you live down here, and bear the burden, STFU about "immigration reform". You know nothing, and are better suited to eating bandwidth and scones at a Starbucks than telling me what I should feel. Arrogant Pissants.

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wish I could say it all as eloquently as Woody, but I can't, so I will just say "me too"
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"As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining to terrorism and airline flight safety," Trump said in a pair of tweets. "Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism."

does this throw McMasters, et al, under the bus?
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The talk of Russia is just a wasted effort and nothing more............The MSM is trying very hard to make Russia our "smokescreen" emphasis.........

But, even more than that, the MSM considers Trump the enemy and is doing anything, and everything, they can to destroy him...........That isn't gonna change...........

Trump must step-up his agenda to expose the MSM...........And, step it up big=time..........
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Don't know, the whole "intent" hairball thing Comey choked on might come into play. Personally, I think Trump needs to learn to STFU and play his cards closer to his vest, but if he legitimately communicated a security threat to the Russians, like they have also done as a courtesy to us on occasion, I have no problem. It is alleged by the MSM that he somehow compromised intelligence gathering methods. I find it hard to believe that the Russians don't know about our methods, and likely know our operatives in the ISIS war, like we know their assets on the ground. On this one point, ISIS, we share a common goal with the Russians. The House of Saud may not be pleased, but F them, they are far from allies, they are just a tribe/sect of oil dealers with a burgeoning welfare system that their Central Bank cannot continue to fund.
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You Liberals crying for open borders for the most part, don't live on the border. You are therefore insulated from illegal immigration. You are immune from the local costs involved, both economic, and in lives lost. So unless you live down here, and bear the burden, STFU about "immigration reform". You know nothing, and are better suited to eating bandwidth and scones at a Starbucks than telling me what I should feel. Arrogant Pissants.

"IT'S GOOD TO BE DA KING"
KeepProvingIt

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The talk of Russia is just a wasted effort and nothing more............The MSM is trying very hard to make Russia our "smokescreen" emphasis.........

But, even more than that, the MSM considers Trump the enemy and is doing anything, and everything, they can to destroy him...........That isn't gonna change...........

Trump must step-up his agenda to expose the MSM...........And, step it up big=time..........



The MSM narrative does not fly on this story. Trump all but confirmed it with his own tweet this morning. I don't agree with a single word you posted. But your opinion is your opinion. I would like to ask you a question. What would your reaction be if President Obama or Hillary had intentionally revealed classified information to Russian diplomats?

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President Trump declares "Islam is one of the world's great faiths" while livin it up with the Saudis, the nation of the 911 terrorists and the world's greatest funder of terror. I bet those terrorists are scared to death. lol
KeepProvingIt

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mikec, I genuinely appreciate your intellectually honest answers to my questions. We are never going to agree from a philosophical standpoint on President Obama. I am certainly included in the 58% of Americans who approved of his Presidency. You are not. That's fine.

I am a social progressive. As a proud black person I am well aware that the majority has never, ever done the right thing without being forced to by the federal government with regard to rights of minorities. I am pro-civil rights, pro-choice, pro-marriage equality, and pro-aggressive oversight of police treatment of minorities.

I am at the same time a fiscal conservative. I don't believe for a moment that massive entitlement programs (i.e. our tax dollars) should be or can the solution to societal and social matters. I also am well aware that both parties are insanely guilty of spending and spending and grotesque financial mismanagement. They just over-spend on different things. The GOP has always been borrow and spend (deficits don't matter) and Dems have always been tax and spend, until Obama who couldn't raise taxes because GOP congress wouldn't let him, so he joined in with the borrow and spend mentality.

But what every person being intellectually honest knows is that the man currently in the White House has serious serious issues. I don't believe he did this with malice, but he won't even read his 1 page security briefings. And he has never once I his life genuinely accepted responsibility for his own mistakes. Never will.

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I am.............pro-choice, pro-marriage equality, and pro-aggressive oversight of police treatment of minorities.


Enough said...........You are pro-murder, support homosexuality and anti-law enforcement...............Very sad...........
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Enough said...........Very sad...........



Thank you. I can't tell you how much it would disgust me to have positions on any of these matters which me with your approval. Sanctimonious, self-righteous people like you sicken me to my core.

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I'm glad I sicken you............You need healing.......The first step is to admit your sickness..........


FWIW, you don't sicken me........I don't have your illness.........
KeepProvingIt

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Enough said...........You are pro-murder, support homosexuality and anti-law enforcement...............Very sad...........



I notice you lack the guts to answer my question above. I support my right to love whoever I want to and I support your right to stay the hell out of my business. And I am anti-corrupt law enforcement. You have never experienced what it is like to be black and have an interaction with certain police and you never will. And you do not give a szhit when blacks are shot and killed by police. You don't differentiate between justified and unjustified. You are just fine with all.

And the kicker is you hold yourself out as a moral person. Sick

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I'm glad I sicken you............You need healing.......The first step is to admit your sickness..........


FWIW, you don't sicken me........I don't have your illness.........



Sir, you need healing.  Everything in your heart is the very opposite of what Christ teaches - not a Christ-like bone in your body. People as evil as you who couch their hate in the cloak of the word give me the heebee jeebeez.

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Sorry, but Obama still wears this crown.

trump is at a pivotal moment, where he can the road towards greatness, the road towards mediocrity, or the road towards lapping Obama.

Where that leads is yet to be determined.



By the way, my over the top initial posts were a reaction to coming here for the first time and reading tons of posts by bluedog, KIR, uaApoligist, etc.  I can easily engage constructively with fiscal conservatives. But the Bannon led crowd that is all about white nationalism and spinning of lies about every group of people not like them I cannot tolerate and won't be insulted by them without giving it back. And it is a 100% impossibility to post here without their vileness.

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Mike's got a new BFF.

BTW, Comey who? Trump orchestrates another russian 'leak of super secret highly guarded classified' whatever, and the comey firing disappears from the msm radar like a fart in the wind lol. #MAGA

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Sorry, but Obama still wears this crown.

trump is at a pivotal moment, where he can the road towards greatness, the road towards mediocrity, or the road towards lapping Obama.

Where that leads is yet to be determined.



I will simply add regarding Trump since you have an open mind, as his Presidency continues he will demonstrate over and over that he has no ideals or values, he has no motivation EVER but himself. He wants to be praised and hailed as great and do as he pleases. I have followed him for 2 decades well before I had any idea he would ever run for President. And if he had it would have been as a Democrat until recently. If you are holding out hope he will choose any path that might lead to greatness you will be severely disappointed. 

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pabar61, I answered your question with a simple YES.

Question for you: Did Trump lie when he said he will repeal Obamacare and his replacement plan will:

(1) cover everyone
(2) be better coverage for everyone, with lower premiums?

Did he lie?


TBD
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Everything in your heart is the very opposite of what Christ teaches


I like discussing, but, just don't lie..............Tell the truth, OK?


Jesus' teaching in the Bible is that homosexuality is a lifestyle that is not only un-natural for mankind, but, also, a sin against the Creator's will..............


And, frankly, I don't like most police..........But, I do respect them when they pull me over or confront me............
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Awe poor baby, and you actually called me "emotional".  There there. We didn't fall in line with Hillary quite as much as you all fell in line with trump. The election result proves it pal.


Hey Dumbass - remember when I told you I didn't vote for Trump?  Yet, I know you voted for Hillary because you made sure to mention you didn't vote for her in the primary.  But then you put on your brown suit, started goose-stepping and pulled the lever for the hag.  Nice job.
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Trump burned his defense on this due to his incessant blather about HC and her handling of classified information.

My family elders are conservatives and just don't get the Russia love  today's conservatives have. My elders went through Vietnam; remember what they called Jane Fonda et al for loving the other side?

What a mess, up is down, down is up, for what end? Yep the rats should flee the sinking ship. Heard that somewhere.



Preach it. Trump screamed over and over and over, relentlessly about mis-handling or even being sloppy with classified information being disqualifying. He railed and railed. Every network (except State Run media, I mean FoxNews) is showing the montage of him describing with disdain DOZENS of times he said that what he just did is the worst thing imaginable. And his crowds screamed Lock Her Up with a craziness that should be shipped back in time to Nazi Germany about Hillary, whose carelessness does not even compare to overtly telling RUSSIA classified info. His extreme supporters are beyond description.  

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KIP, do you walk to school?  Or carry your lunch?




It's KIR, not KIP.  What an intellectual lightweight.
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pabar - FWIW, Erick Erickson says that he would not believe the WaPo, except that the knows one of the sources.  He says the person is a trump fan, but has become so exasperated by the POTUS' actions and lack of accountability, that the only way to push back to try to force a behavior change was to tell the press about this incident.

I think it is early yet, but is serious.

Jonah Goldberg had a good article last night, that essentially said he figured it was a mistake, not malicious.

However, the bigger issue is, that nobody would doubt it could happen, which is pretty damning in and of itself.


Like I told KPI, I'm going to wait for more to come out.  Yes, it could happen knowing Trump.  But KPI came in here with the notion that it was already proven, which it wasn't.

By the way, the POTUS has the unilateral right to de-classify information.  Doesn't mean he should.
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I like discussing, but, just don't lie..............Tell the truth, OK?


Jesus' teaching in the Bible is that homosexuality is an abomination to our Creator...........A lifestyle that is not only un-natural for mankind, but, also, a sin against the Creator's will..............



Tell ya what, you don't lie, okay?  Nowhere, not ANY WHERE will you find it in the Bible that you are to hate and despise the sinner. You are a sinner and I am a sinner. You believe you are superior to others and you state it on this very forum all the time. Go read every word uttered by Christ as written in the Bible.

There is an overwhelming, unmistakable theme that is impossible to miss. It is feed them, clothe them, shelter them, witness to them, care for the least of these, pray for them, honor them, LOVE them.

And he clearly reserves his most harsh words and criticism for the self-righteous and sanctimonious. These are facts, and your words and witness bear no resemblance to them. That is not a lie sir

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TBD



Are you proud of responding with such cowardice?

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Like I told KPI, I'm going to wait for more to come out.  Yes, it could happen knowing Trump.  But KPI came in here with the notion that it was already proven, which it wasn't.

By the way, the POTUS has the unilateral right to de-classify information.  Doesn't mean he should.



Again, the cowardice makes me nauseated. That is semantics. If you can't admit you would be screaming bloody murder if Obama or Hillary had done this, you are a very small man indeed.

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Did Hillary have to show "intent"? There are lots of people in jail for doing less with classified documents and information. If that is the bar that was set by Democrats, then there needs to be a clarification of the law. The President has the right under current law as CIC, to give a heads up regarding classified information to a foreign ambassador, if he deems it the correct thing to do (stops a terrorist attack). Hillary Clinton violated the law by putting classified documents on her home brewed server that was compromised, and those documents were even found on a another private citizens laptop. So, if the DNC, and their propaganda wing, the MSM believe that Hillary is an untouchable because of her political background and status, then Trump, who has the authority by law as CIC is likewise untouchable.

Remember Libs, Hillary conspired with the DNC, and the MSM to steal the Presidential primary from Bernie Sanders, and she openly lied to Congress and the FBI about mishandling classified emails, and attempted to destroy evidence of her crime. If Hillary was held to the same law as every other individual, she would be in jail.

Democrats are bent out of shape that their candidate didn't win. They don't accept the results of the election, and want to reverse the election, even going so far as rioting and looting. As a Conservative, I understand their frustration, after 8 years of Obama. However, if Democrats are unwilling to admit that Hillary Clinton was possibly one of the worst candidates that the DNC ever nominated, they are in denial. I couldn't understand why the GOP gave McCain and Romney the nod. It's frustrating, but you didn't see the GOP rioting in the streets with the blessing and coordination of the GOP and MSM.

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You Liberals crying for open borders for the most part, don't live on the border. You are therefore insulated from illegal immigration. You are immune from the local costs involved, both economic, and in lives lost. So unless you live down here, and bear the burden, STFU about "immigration reform". You know nothing, and are better suited to eating bandwidth and scones at a Starbucks than telling me what I should feel. Arrogant Pissants.

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Mike's got a new BFF.

BTW, Comey who? Trump orchestrates another russian 'leak of super secret highly guarded classified' whatever, and the comey firing disappears from the msm radar like a fart in the wind lol. #MAGA



Trump is a depraved sociopath and also a buffoon of historic proportions. I saw him begging on twitter (he begs a lot like a punk but never accepts responsibility like a man). Anyway I saw him begging on twitter for the Russia investigation to end. He asked "when will it stop" and a progressive woman replied "when your ass is in Gitmo".  Love it. What would be appropriate for him though is a massive stroke when he freaks out that leaves him unable to speak, drooling out the side of his mouth, and crapping into a colostomy bag for the rest of his life.

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And he clearly reserves his most harsh words and criticism for the self-righteous and sanctimonious.


Willfully living a lifestyle against the Creator's will ends with quite a harsh punishment...........

Every word spoken by Jesus is of equal importance..........

I get a kick out of people who talk about their favorite Bible verse..........You don't cherry-pick the words of the Bible..........The Bible gives us a very explicit message..........Our Creator will sentence many people to burn in the fire pit, all of which He dearly loves............

 
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Did Hillary have to show "intent"? There are lots of people in jail for doing less with classified documents and information. If that is the bar that was set by Democrats, then there needs to be a clarification of the law. The President has the right under current law as CIC, to give a heads up regarding classified information to a foreign ambassador, if he deems it the correct thing to do (stops a terrorist attack). Hillary Clinton violated the law by putting classified documents on her home brewed server that was compromised, and those documents were even found on a another private citizens laptop. So, if the DNC, and their propaganda wing, the MSM believe that Hillary is an untouchable because of her political background and status, then Trump, who has the authority by law as CIC is likewise untouchable.

Remember Libs, Hillary conspired with the DNC, and the MSM to steal the Presidential primary from Bernie Sanders, and she openly lied to Congress and the FBI about mishandling classified emails, and attempted to destroy evidence of her crime. If Hillary was held to the same law as every other individual, she would be in jail.

Democrats are bent out of shape that their candidate didn't win. They don't accept the results of the election, and want to reverse the election, even going so far as rioting and looting. As a Conservative, I understand their frustration, after 8 years of Obama. However, if Democrats are unwilling to admit that Hillary Clinton was possibly one of the worst candidates that the DNC ever nominated, they are in denial. I couldn't understand why the GOP gave McCain and Romney the nod. It's frustrating, but you didn't see the GOP rioting in the streets with the blessing and coordination of the GOP and MSM.



There are zero people in jail for what she did. And clearly you are all about party man. Don't lie, just own it. You are a plain ole Republican party hack. Nothing different than the rest.

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Again, the cowardice makes me nauseated. That is semantics. If you can't admit you would be screaming bloody murder if Obama or Hillary had done this, you are a very small man indeed.


Well, we can rule out Dewey as the previous identity of KPI.  I don't think even he could fake this level of venom.

McMaster was in the meeting and said no classified information was shared.  You've convicted without a trial.  Is that how you roll?
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Trump is a depraved sociopath and also a buffoon of historic proportions.


I had to laugh......When I first read this, I thought it said " of hispanic proportions"......[biggrin]
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