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Dewey

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In the event we check back a few years later, I'll put the current budget predictions here and see how future legislation or tax cuts change these numbers down the line.

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/statistics/federal-receipt-and-outlay-summary

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The first 48 hours has clearly shown the Trump Administration will be under great scrutiny.  That's never a surprise for an incoming President but this go round will most certainly reach new heights.

Over 50% of those voting Dem or Republican voted against Donald Trump.  Millions more voted for some other Party.  A huge built in opposition is already in place.  Again, this isn't new.  However, to this we add many establishment and/or never-Trump Republicans who won't hesitate to join the chorus criticizing this new Administration.  It's akin to two remaining parties criticizing the Independent winner.  Finally, I'm guessing many of those who voted for Trump may have been anti-Hillary voters who probably wouldn't care for a minute if Trump resigned in his first month and allowed VP Pence to take over.  This is yet another segment of the population who I'm guessing won't hesitate criticizing this new President if he goes against their wishes.

We're not just talking private individuals who will openly criticize President Trump these next four years.  We all know there are right leaning websites and right leaning talk radio hosts who are eagerly waiting to be critical of Donald Trump.  This latter group will be the most significant, imo.  They will give the MSM media, who many on the Right feel are far too biased, an open lane for holding President Trump accountable.  Once we see the MSM, Conservative talk radio hosts, and right leaning websites all simultaneously sharing their criticism of President Trump, any fear the MSM may have about not being fair will be completely erased.  It would be hard to call out the MSM if Conservatives are voicing the same criticisms.

The chances we see a very turbulent four years are extremely high.  Maybe there will be a sympathy factor if all sides are critical, or maybe President Trump surrounds himself with members from both Parties to help buffer this potential criticism.  I don't know but I have to believe this is going to be far different than previous Administrations where only two sides generally bang heads.  Whatever the case might be, may this criticism now wait until the "new President" takes an action which can be judged.  We've gone from candidate to President elect and it might make sense to wait for this new individual to act before we criticize.
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there are no right leaning radio shows that didn't back trump.  some of us are pissed at them for that.

for the record, it's liberals taking to the streets right now.  conservatives did not do that after Obama was elected, twice.  If there is turbulence, we know where it comes from.
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Does anyone remember any black folks getting beat by a white mob for voting for Obama?

If any party is coming unhinged, it is the democratic party.  Some of the protestors in the street are more mad about having the primary stolen from Bernie than they are about Trump.

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Does anyone remember any black folks getting beat by a white mob for voting for Obama?

If any party is coming unhinged, it is the democratic party.  Some of the protestors in the street are more mad about having the primary stolen from Bernie than they are about Trump.


Has either Obama or Clinton come out to say anything to these thugs that are looting and rioting and beating people up for no reason?  Silence is acceptance.
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Does anyone remember any black folks getting beat by a white mob for voting for Obama?

If any party is coming unhinged, it is the democratic party.  Some of the protestors in the street are more mad about having the primary stolen from Bernie than they are about Trump.


Most obama voters are racists

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Has either Obama or Clinton come out to say anything to these thugs that are looting and rioting and beating people up for no reason?  Silence is acceptance.


Most obama voters are racists

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

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  Finally, I'm guessing many of those who voted for Trump may have been anti-Hillary voters who probably wouldn't care for a minute if Trump resigned in his first month and allowed VP Pence to take over.  Preferred This is yet another segment of the population who I'm guessing won't hesitate criticizing this new President if he goes against their wishes.



Your wife must be proud to have married such a smart man.  Your candidate is a liar, a thief, a crook, a murderer, an elitist that said one thing and did another.  Worst candidate for president in United States history.  She didn't need the keys back to the White House, there wasn't enough security in the place to keep her from stealing the kitchen utensils

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

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uwApoligist

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey
The first 48 hours has clearly shown the Trump Administration will be under great scrutiny.  That's never a surprise for an incoming President but this go round will most certainly reach new heights.

Over 50% of those voting Dem or Republican voted against Donald Trump.  Millions more voted for some other Party.  A huge built in opposition is already in place.  Again, this isn't new.  However, to this we add many establishment and/or never-Trump Republicans who won't hesitate to join the chorus criticizing this new Administration.  It's akin to two remaining parties criticizing the Independent winner.  Finally, I'm guessing many of those who voted for Trump may have been anti-Hillary voters who probably wouldn't care for a minute if Trump resigned in his first month and allowed VP Pence to take over.  This is yet another segment of the population who I'm guessing won't hesitate criticizing this new President if he goes against their wishes.

We're not just talking private individuals who will openly criticize President Trump these next four years.  We all know there are right leaning websites and right leaning talk radio hosts who are eagerly waiting to be critical of Donald Trump.  This latter group will be the most significant, imo.  They will give the MSM media, who many on the Right feel are far too biased, an open lane for holding President Trump accountable.  Once we see the MSM, Conservative talk radio hosts, and right leaning websites all simultaneously sharing their criticism of President Trump, any fear the MSM may have about not being fair will be completely erased.  It would be hard to call out the MSM if Conservatives are voicing the same criticisms.

The chances we see a very turbulent four years are extremely high.  Maybe there will be a sympathy factor if all sides are critical, or maybe President Trump surrounds himself with members from both Parties to help buffer this potential criticism.  I don't know but I have to believe this is going to be far different than previous Administrations where only two sides generally bang heads.  Whatever the case might be, may this criticism now wait until the "new President" takes an action which can be judged.  We've gone from candidate to President elect and it might make sense to wait for this new individual to act before we criticize.

Perhaps time to remind you of how US elections work.  One wins one loses.  Elections mean something.

The lefty losers marching through the streets think that threats of violence can somehow replace their responsibilities to get a job and provide for themselves.  They might find this time around we are willing to tell them to go f'ck themselves.  

When they go off they mostly destroy democratic crap anyway.  So no real loss.

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Heard some saying they want an election redo.  I've wanted that for the past 8 years.  What weenies.
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Life ain't fair, the biggest cop out ever. Pussies
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Perhaps time to remind you of how US elections work.  One wins one loses.  Elections mean something. 



Add obama quotemarks

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Dewey

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Cable news channels, to name one example, spend eight years protesting a sitting President.  Those who don't have networks, gather and march with signs.  If marchers interfere with Americans trying to live their lives, or damage property, then that's beyond the pale.  Otherwise, street protesters are much like other individuals who want their voices heard.
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Cable news channels, to name one example, spend eight years protesting a sitting President.  Those who don't have networks, gather and march with signs.  If marchers interfere with Americans trying to live their lives, or damage property, then that's beyond the pale.  Otherwise, street protesters are much like other individuals who want their voices heard.


Except that some of them are violent, and they want an election redo. 
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Dewey, I'll never support anyone blocking a street.........

I really like Christie, but, he should get some punishment for closing that bridge.......IMO, he disqualified himself from being Attorney General for that action......

Wanna protest, go somewhere where you're not blocking my path to get somewhere......You don't have the right to do that......
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Some of these protesters believe burglaries of campaign hotel rooms, or invasion of privacy as it relates to a campaign's staff, represents criminal wrong-doing and cheating.  I suspect some want to voice their complaints and my only hope is they do it in a civil and legal manner.  Those who don't object about activities like these, and remain silent, are the citizens that would concern me.

Listen, this is a time for the Trump supporters to celebrate and champion their new President.  They won and I have no interest in raining on their parade.  But if the decision by the Right is to continue bashing the Left, despite winning, then I'm not sure what it will ultimately take to satisfy them.

Edit:  Bluedog, I agree with you.  They shouldn't keep folks from getting where they need to go.
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If you walk in my street in front of my vehicle, you're gonna hear from me.......If you don't get out the way, there's gonna be a confrontation..........Guaranteed!
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If this Country ever allowed a civil protest to alter an election, we'd be done as a Country.
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  But if the decision by the Right is to continue bashing the Left, despite winning, then I'm not sure what it will ultimately take to satisfy them.



We know that much, step aside.  You had 8 years

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Trump had his privacy invaded - didn't hear him complain.

Quit blaming the umps.

The left has multiple cable outlets to have their voices heard. If they are blocking roads, arrests them immediately.

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Quit blaming the umps.


Top 10 dewyism

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Quote:
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Some of these protesters believe burglaries of campaign hotel rooms, or invasion of privacy as it relates to a campaign's staff, represents criminal wrong-doing and cheating.  I suspect some want to voice their complaints and my only hope is they do it in a civil and legal manner.  Those who don't object about activities like these, and remain silent, are the citizens that would concern me.

Listen, this is a time for the Trump supporters to celebrate and champion their new President.  They won and I have no interest in raining on their parade.  But if the decision by the Right is to continue bashing the Left, despite winning, then I'm not sure what it will ultimately take to satisfy them.

Edit:  Bluedog, I agree with you.  They shouldn't keep folks from getting where they need to go.


I would venture a guess that almost all of these "protestors" have no idea what you said even means.
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pabar - I'm confident many of these young people know about Watergate.  Nonetheless, they know about Wikileaks, they know about late campaign questionable leaks from the FBI, and they know what's behind charges claiming someone is not an American citizen, or that somebody's Dad runs with Lee Harvey Oswald.  These events, these unethical if not illegal actions, were blatant enough to cause many Americans, let alone these protesting in the streets, to question the fairness that takes place in our campaigns.  Please let them voice that concern but, at the same time, feel free to call out protesters who break the law.  I'd just keep mum for awhile if I were a Trump supporter, and I'd quietly move into the WH if I were Donald Trump.
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You conveniently left out Trumps tax returns being leaked.

I'm sure that wasn't an intentional omission.

Edit to add: Some of these protestors are angry about the fairness of the democratic primary that was given to Hillary. Have you ever addressed that here? Would be curious to hear your take on it as a democrat.

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 I'd just keep mum for awhile if I were a Trump supporter, and I'd quietly move into the WH if I were Donald Trump.


No thanks.........We'll stay with what got us there.........Revolutions can get noisy and, sometimes, a bit messy!

Patriots will hold their ground.......100%!

Trump quiet?.......Dewey, you've learned nothing from the lesson we gave you and Hillary........[wink]
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Trump quiet?.......Dewey, you've learned nothing from the lesson we gave you and Hillary........[wink]


he's not too bright, he voted for a crook

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But, Dewey had a front row seat.........

And, he was told what was gonna happen.......All he had to do was pay attention and watch it play out......... 

Too complicated?
Dewey

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bluedog - I meant be quiet about these protesters, not about the election.  You Trump supporters should be dancing in the streets for what you pulled off here.
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bluedog if only he would have heeded woody.

"You Liberals crying for open borders for the most part, don't live on the border. You are therefore insulated from illegal immigration. You are immune from the local costs involved, both economic, and in lives lost. So unless you live down here, and bear the burden, STFU about "immigration reform". You know nothing, and are better suited to eating bandwidth and scones at a Starbucks than telling me what I should feel. Arrogant Pissants."

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