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Dewey

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Some of the Conservatives in this forum are going to great lengths to stifle my comments.  I understand they disagree with me, or that they may choose to mock them, but I don't understand taking my comments, changing the words, and then re-posting them.  That's beyond the pale.  Therefore, I'll just start a thread to share some opinions and lock it to stop the unfair editing.


I wanted to make a point that choosing Trump because Hillary was just too horrible to consider is disingenuous in most cases.  Particularly among Conservatives.  Many of them would choose Trump over any Democrat you could name.  It's really not about Hillary, it's about electing any other Democrat.  They are against that and negatively characterizing Hillary is mostly an excuse for voting Trump. 

To illustrate such, I asked if Obama were allowed a third term, would Conservatives choose him over Trump and, in the few answers given, they said no.  This pretty much confirms what I thought would be the case in most instances.  Try it yourself and ask your friends, those who say Trump is not qualified but is still better than Clinton, if they would say the same if it were Obama vs Trump.  You might be surprised at the answers you receive.
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Thanks pabar. Btw, years ago I deleted a post with serious foul language including the "c" word but never any posts since. I was asked to moderate the misc forum by the owner and that was my one delete. Take it back, I have deleted some spam posts on occasion.
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Not sure if we have any regular readers out there who believe these never-ending accusations aimed at me but, for the umpteenth time, I have never banned any member from this forum and the Moderator doesn't have the authority to do so.  Only the owner of the website can block members from participating in these forums...and I'm not the owner.

Edit:  And I'm not deleting any comments either.
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Between the nearly eight years of personal attacks and the lying claims that I have banned other members and I ban posts written by others, it's crystal clear some UCS Conservatives here will go to great lengths to try and shut me up and drive me and my alternative perspective completely out of this forum.  My view is not wanted here.

Well it won't work and the only answer is to ignore the attacks and repeatedly counter these deliberate and lying claims which are 100% untrue.  However, a couple of members have now taken this attempt to silence or distort my comments to yet another level, (probably upset the previous tactics aren't working), by quoting my posts, changing the words to make it look like I said something completely different, and then re-posting and leaving my name on the post.  Way over-the-top and completely unacceptable from where I sit which explains why I chose to protect my comments from being distorted.  That said, I sense from comments made over the last couple of days this practice will come to an end.  With that understanding, I'll unlock my comments here.  Fire away as you wish.

PS:  Would have followed up earlier but been on a Triple Crown tournament field until 9:00 PM.
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dewy and harry reid have lost their minds

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Lost_1

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Corruption?????


http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/31/hillarys-two-official-favors-to-morocco-resulted-in-28-million-for-clinton-foundation/


Hillary’s Two Official Favors To Morocco Resulted In $28 Million For Clinton Foundation


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“No matter what happens, she will be in Morocco hosting CGI [Clinton Global Initiative] on May 5-7, 2015. Her presence was a condition for the Moroccans to proceed so there is no going back on this,” top Clinton aide Huma Abedin wrote to campaign manager Robby Mook in a November 2014 email revealed by Wiki­Leaks.

 

In another email, Abedin warned that if Clinton didn’t attend, the $12 million would be off the table.

“Just to give you some context, the condition upon which the Moroccans agreed to host the meeting was her participation. If hrc was not part if it, meeting was a non-starter,” Abedin wrote in a January 2015 ­email to Mook and campaign manager John ­Podesta.

“CGI also wasn’t pushing for a meeting in Morocco and it wasn’t their first choice. This was HRC’s idea, our office approached the Moroccans and they 100 percent believe they are doing this at her request. The King has personally committed approx $12 million both for the [foundation’s] endowment and to support the meeting,” Abedin continued.

“It will break a lot of china to back out now when we had so many opportunities to do it in the past few months. She created this mess and she knows it.”



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http://spectator.org/63383_hillary-and-hippie/


"Militarily we’re weaker now than we were before World War II began, and our president seems more interested in sex changes for our soldiers — giving a new meaning to “private parts” — than in maintaining our naval strength. That weakness is undoubtedly provocative; just ask Vladimir Putin, Khamenei, and the Chinese. And when the balloon rises, so does the specter of our now $18 trillion national debt. How to finance a coming major war when we’re already mortgaged to the hilt? The answer is it can’t be done, meaning American weakness is locked in. In fact, thanks to the president and his fellow social engineers our decline isn’t just reflected in geopolitics but on our border. We’re being colonized by the Third World, both thanks to our own policies — see the result of our refugee resettlement efforts in Somali Minneapolis — and lack thereof. When Donald Trump inartfully raises the question of immigrant criminality above and beyond the initial trespassing he is demonized as a racist, but few bother to ask why America has to accept criminal immigrants at all. That’s startling in the wake of the Kate Steinle murder at the San Francisco pier."

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Dewey

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My opinion which suggests the "Hillary is a crook" mantra is mostly a smokescreen is being covered up by other posts in this thread as quickly as possible.  I'll repeat my question.  Is there any Conservative inside here who would vote Obama as President, assuming the option was available, instead of Mr. Trump?  My guess is maybe one at the most.

I think some readers here had the mistaken opinion we had Conservatives who would pass on Trump and vote Democrat if only the nominee of the Democrats were a suitable individual.  I believe that's simply not the case and we can likely substitute VP Biden or Sen Kaine in place of Obama in my question and again see the same result.  Agree? 
keepinitreal

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I voted for the rapist the 2nd term and I voted fatass Al Gore if you can decipher the answer from that numbnuts
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

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I voted for the rapist the 2nd term and I voted fatass Al Gore if you can decipher the answer from that numbnuts


Not quite as bad as Early voting for the Kenyan twice

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Not quite as bad as Early voting for the Kenyan twice


Agreed. My kenyan love knew no bounds. I apologize.

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Accepted
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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
BAMASportzLuvr

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Though I can visualize what damage will and can happen, should killary be elected, we do get what we deserve. Whatever we do, it is by our own action.
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441618/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-democratic-elites-enabled-corruption



When the definitive post mortem of this dismal election is finally published, it should go something like this: The Republican establishment was foolish; the Democratic establishment was ruthless. The Republicans fumbled around incompetently and spinelessly in the face of an unforeseen challenge; the Democrats willfully and intentionally did all they could to carry a corrupt politician over the finish line, forcing the American public to choose between one known liar and another. Let’s review the facts. According to an outstanding weekend report in the Wall Street Journal, the FBI continues to investigate Hillary Clinton’s maybe-criminal abuse of the Clinton Foundation as a front for systematic influence-peddling and her maybe-criminal mishandling of our nation’s secrets. Neither of these scandals is new. They both predate the launch of her presidential campaign.

Questions have swirled around the Clinton Foundation since Hillary was confirmed as secretary of state. Damaging evidence of outright influence-peddling — including evidence of large-scale donations made to the foundation as the State Department considered a crucial uranium deal — broke less than two weeks after her campaign announcement. On April 23, 2015, the New York Times published an extraordinary story detailing the amount of money that was funneled to the Clinton Foundation (and to Bill Clinton directly) as the State Department considered whether to sign off on the sale of “one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States” to a Russian-controlled corporation. The chairman of the corporation donated $2.35 million to the Clinton Foundation, and a Russian investment bank promoting Uranium One stock paid Bill Clinton a whopping $500,000 to give a speech in Moscow. The Clintons violated an agreement with the White House to “publicly identify all donors” by failing to disclose the Uranium One contributions. Hillary’s State Department approved the deal. One month before the Uranium One story, as Clinton was preparing to announce her candidacy, the Times broke the news that still dominates the campaign today: Hillary “exclusively used a personal email account to conduct government business.” Given the Clintons’ longstanding history of personal corruption, it should have been obvious to Democrats then that Hillary’s scandals were going to dog the party throughout the campaign, and, if she won, throughout her presidency. It would be a repeat of the 1990s, when an entire party was hijacked into relentlessly defending conduct that they would loudly condemn if it were attributed to any Republican.

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The Republicans were the gang that couldn’t shoot straight and then — when disaster loomed — couldn’t stand straight. The Democrats are the gang that shot straight and stood tall for one of America’s most corrupt politicians. Future historians will no doubt be confused by the choices of the party elites. While history is replete with leaders whose vices were excused for the sake of their brilliant virtues, this generation has excused vices for the sake of elevating a man and woman of little virtue. What do they excel at besides opportunism? Nothing. But they do bring with them access to power, and for all too many members of the establishment, that’s virtue enough.


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Dewey

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I listened to Marc Levin on my drive home and I couldn't help but laugh when I thought of all those on the Right who claim Democrats are the guilty party when it comes to scaring the voters.  This man went on a rant that must have left listeners thinking it's time to call all the family members and say goodbye.  Sounds like if Hillary wins we're doomed in every facet of life.  Not saying both sides can't do similar but it's common practice for the Right to moan about Democrats practicing "scare tactics".  Pot/kettle
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I believe Mr. Levin. Now tell us who said the democrats were the only to employ scare tactics. Quote please numbnuts or can we presume you're doing more of your lying? By your silence we'll know you're lying
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Thank you, I knew you were lying.
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

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Thank you, I knew you were lying.


Roger that. SILENCE = AGREEMENT

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Yes Dewdy all of us conservatives would vote for Obama if we could. We love having median income down $4000 per household. We love having the lowest work participation rate since the Jimmy Carter days 40+ years ago! We love having 1 out of every 5 households with not a single person employed. We love having added 15 million people to welfare and 10's of millions to disability. We love that our health insurance rates have sky rocketed and our original insurance plan, which we were told that we could keep, is now deemed "illegal" and that we can no longer choose our own doctor. We love that ISIS is no longer the JV team and now a force that is in over 40 countries and able to burn victims alive for us all to see. We love that we can use a bathroom of our choice, mens or womens depending on which one we relate to that day. We love that our southern boarder is wide open for any and all to simply come on in because they will one day vote democRAT. We love that we have a president that fans the flames of racial divide and isn't afraid to demonize those who protect us (police and military). We love that we have tens of thousands of regulations which are basically laws created by agencies without congressional approval that make it more and more difficult to run a business, much less start a business. We love that our men and women in uniform are now afraid to do their job and therefore thugs and gangs are free to terrorize neighborhoods. We love that the IRS can be used to target the political opposition without consequences. We love that the Department of Justice is able to turn its head when democRATS break the law. And MOST of all we love that Obama will continue to appoint activist judges to the supreme court who will create laws and make decisions with no regard for the constitution. 
So of course patriotic, constitution loving, America loving conservatives like me would vote for Obama if he were on the ticket again!
If Trump gets in there he might put an end to political correctness, that would be terrible! Oh and even worse he might build a wall on our southern boarder to keep out those wonderful people who just want to come here to assimilate, and he might appoint judges who believe and follow that stupid constitution! We can be having that! Oh and you KNOW he is going to lower taxes on those evil businesses who HIRE people and create jobs. OH MY!!! Then we would have less people dependent on government! What are we going to do if millions of people get a job? And worst of all what if I really feel like a woman that day but I am forced to use the mens room just because I have balls? Oh Noooooooooo!!!!!

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The last GOP President couldn't halt 9/11, wouldn't delay going to war because he wouldn't allow inspectors to finish searching for the WMD's, couldn't keep from signing a withdrawal agreement with Iraq, couldn't find Bin Laden, couldn't get immigration reform done, couldn't put together any healthcare reform, couldn't handle a hurricane disaster, couldn't keep the deficit from significantly rising again, couldn't stop the economy from crashing, and couldn't keep millions of Americans from losing a great deal of their savings in a collapsing stock market.  The last thing we need is to allow another GOP candidate to have another go at it, particularly when this current GOP nominee is less qualified than the last one.
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The last GOP President couldn't halt 9/11, wouldn't delay going to war because he wouldn't allow inspectors to finish searching for the WMD's, couldn't keep from signing a withdrawal agreement with Iraq, couldn't find Bin Laden, couldn't get immigration reform done, couldn't put together any healthcare reform, couldn't handle a hurricane disaster, couldn't keep the deficit from significantly rising again, couldn't stop the economy from crashing, and couldn't keep millions of Americans from losing a great deal of their savings in a collapsing stock market.  The last thing we need is to allow another GOP candidate to have another go at it, particularly when this current GOP nominee is less qualified than the last one.



So many lies in a single paragraph......SMDH



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His lies have really picked up since he came back.  He used to defend himself, now he just brazenly keeps on lying and doesn't even acknowledge it.

He is really worked up and excited about this election.  Really needs to calm down.
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Lying liars gonna lie
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The last GOP President couldn't halt 9/11, wouldn't delay going to war because he wouldn't allow inspectors to finish searching for the WMD's, couldn't keep from signing a withdrawal agreement with Iraq, couldn't find Bin Laden, couldn't get immigration reform done, couldn't put together any healthcare reform, couldn't handle a hurricane disaster, couldn't keep the deficit from significantly rising again, couldn't stop the economy from crashing, and couldn't keep millions of Americans from losing a great deal of their savings in a collapsing stock market.  The last thing we need is to allow another GOP candidate to have another go at it, particularly when this current GOP nominee is less qualified than the last one.


Such an unbelievably dishonest post.  Not surprising coming from a liberal.
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Such an unbelievably dishonest post.  Not surprising coming from a liberal.


He had to combat GrizzlyFans post that got under his skin. I believe he saw red

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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He had to combat GrizzlyFans post that got under his skin. I believe he saw red


Good one.

We have an entire thread devoted to Obama's failures.  We could be here from now until Kingdom come discussing all the ways that Obama has been the worst president in this country's history.
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pabar - Any Democrat could come along and simply dismiss the "Obama failure" thread as all lies too.  At least in your thread, I counter the points I believe are wrong.  You act like only one side has a perspective.  If a perspective is different than yours, then it must be a lie.  You must realize that's very shallow thinking.

Edit:  Btw, I thought you intended to go to Kingdom come.
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pabar - Any Democrat could come along and simply dismiss the "Obama failure" thread as all lies too.  At least in your thread, I counter the points I believe are wrong.  You act like only one side has a perspective.  If a perspective is different than yours, then it must be a lie.  You must realize that's very shallow thinking.


Both sides have a perspective - I won't deny that.  Yours is just wrong.
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