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TheNarrator

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I bet if you polled most Americans they would not know what the Civil War was actually fought over.  It's a shame, and a part of our history that should be studied so it is not repeated.
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I had a talk with my daughter's middle school teacher on this subject.  She showed them a flag, then went on to say it represented hate, to never show or speak about it, and that Confederates who died in the war deserved it because they were bad people.

That prompted a visit from yours truly, where I told her to stick to the facts, and I'd handle the morals.  And, BTW, soldiers follow orders, and no one "deserves" to die.

About 2 years later, I had another argument with another history teacher who said that the US entered WWII late, and thereby caused the death of millions of Jews.  This guy also said the a-bomb was immoral, and that the US was a horrible country because we were the only ones to use an a-bomb.

My daughter's paper on the first topic included statistics about the number of casualties suffered by the US, pictures of overseas soldier cemeteries, and info on how Europe stood by twiddling its thumbs until we got in.

The second paper included a section on invasion plans for Japan, and how many US casualties, and Japanese civilian casualties, were expected had we not used the bomb.  That, and the citizens were warned to evacuate beforehand.

After the 2nd paper, the teacher requested a conference.  We almost got into fisticuffs when he went off on the US.  I told him and the Principal the same thing - stick to facts, and I'll handle morals.

The moral is this has been going on for 20 years, at least.


That is nothing.  My son came home from Freshman year of High School.  They had just spent 3 weeks talking about the Vietnam war.  Immediately I am concerned.  

Turns out the 3 weeks was spent on how the Flora and Fauna of Vietnam was wrecked by the war.  Apparently they had exact numbers on the number of trees that gotten blown up and spent a lot of time estimating the number of spiders and bugs that got blown up, napalm or wrecked by defoliation.  Apparently this pointed to the evils of war kind of long lasting environmental impacts of bad things like war.
 
hahaha.   Zero mention of the 58,220 American servicemen that died.  Zero mention of the >254,256 Vietnamese lost in the war.  Only slight mentions of the geopolitics of the war.  You just cannot make this up.




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dewey---It appears alternative facts are being used to distort my position on the NSA program to collect phone billing records so I'll correct the record here.  I supported the program started under President Bush to collect phone records and, after obtaining a warrant from the Court, having the right to review certain phone numbers called.  I never supported collecting "contacts" from any sources, including personal cell phones.
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dewey---It appears alternative facts are being used to distort my position on the NSA program to collect phone billing records so I'll correct the record here.  I supported the program started under President Bush to collect phone records and, after obtaining a warrant from the Court, having the right to review certain phone numbers called.  I never supported collecting "contacts" from any sources, including personal cell phones.


Why does dewey lock his own thread, then post lies?

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It's called suppression of opposing views, propaganda, and censorship. A proud moment for our resident SJW socialist. Being one of the more equal animals has its privileges.
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Why does dewey lock his own thread, then post lies?


Been doing it for a while, the locking of threads is the only thing that is new.
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Been doing it for a while, the locking of threads is the only thing that is new.


Roger that.

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I am going to up our game a bit more here.  Not going to far as we are already running a great game, with loads of nrg.   But let's try this as I think it could be fun.  

No one open Dewey's locked piece of 5hit thread "Perspective of a Democrat".  I know you guys, like I do, open it to see how salty/dumb dewey is and if he has the thread currently locked or not.   I am saying we don't open at all.  

Views on that thread are like 2507 right now.  We know there are few democrats that will open it, so the count will go up a bit.  But I think if we stop 'checking' the thread view count will go to about 10 a day or so.  Let's see.  


I'd already noted the 'views' number yesterday morning when he locked it again. There has been 6 views since then lol. Some of that 6 being dewey no doubt. Agreed, ignoring his thread would be the best way to give him his safe space.
 
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I was 1 of the 6 yesterday - just to see what others posted. I have no intention of viewing it while others are locked out, however it is going to require some diligence to keep from mistakenly clicking on it as I go through the unread threads.
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-jobs-report-is-the-original-fake-news-200745886.html
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"In its hysteria-driven coverage of President Trump’s immigration order, the mainstream media forgot to mention this: most of the country supports it. 

A recent Quinnipiac poll indicated that 48 percent of the nation approves of "suspending immigration from terror prone regions, even if it means turning away refugees," while 42 percent oppose such a measure.

In contrast, Americans did not agree with Obama’s decision to open the door to more Syrian refugees; at the end of 2015, a Quinnipiac poll revealed that 51 percent of the country stood against the move, while only 43 percent supported it.

There is the problem for Democrats -- even as they rant and rave over Donald Trump’s assault on the progressive values of the elite establishment,  consumer confidence has soared to 12-year highs.

How can that be? Here’s the key, which the mainstream media has ignored for eight years: President Obama was personally popular, but his policies were not. Conversely, President Trump personally scores low approval ratings, but he is pushing an agenda that has the support of most Americans.  

Chuck Schumer has vowed to fight Trump “tooth and nail” and has made good on that threat by slow-walking confirmation of the president’s cabinet appointees. The Senate Minority Leaders’ opposition is knee-jerk payback for years of GOP obstructionism.  

The problem for Mr. Schumer is this: the GOP resisted Obama’s policies because the majority of the country didn’t like them.  That’s why Republicans gained ground over the past eight years, earning decisive off-year election victories.

Voters in 2010 and 2014 elected representatives who would oppose President Obama’s initiatives, giving the GOP control of the House and then the Senate.

If Democrats were caught off guard by this turn of events, they can blame their pals in the media, who were so enamored of President Obama that they failed to honestly assess the mood of the country. 

Approval for ObamaCare never rose above 50 percent. Obama’s 2014 executive amnesty for people in the country illegally was similarly unpopular, with an NBC poll showing that 48 percent disapproved of his approach, and only 38 percent supported it. Meanwhile, some 57 percent of the country disapproved of the nuclear deal with Iran, while only 30 percent were in favor of it.  Republicans were right to resist these and other wrong-headed Obama policies.

The situation is now reversed. Ironically, Trump enters office with high negative ratings, but people like what he’s doing. Polling shows most Americans favor walking away from the TPP and stopping the Syrian refugee program. They have always backed the Keystone XL Pipeline.

If Democrats now become the Party of No, as the GOP was derisively called, in a childish retaliatory spat, they will further alienate the broad majority of Americans who are frustrated with stagnant earnings and low growth.

Democrats are already in trouble, having lost more than 1,000 congressional and state legislative seats and governorships – a staggering total -- during Obama’s tenure. They will only compound their vanishing act if they fight the Trump agenda.   

Americans have short attention spans, so it is worth reminding all those teary-eyed Obama fans pining for “four more years,” that their champion was not as successful as his recent approval ratings might suggest. It was only at the beginning and in the final months of his tenure that his popularity rose much over 50 percent.  Over his eight years Obama’s average approval rating was 47.9 percent, beating out only Truman, Ford, and Carter, and falling below all others, including G.W. Bush and Richard Nixon.  

The reasons for Obama’s mediocre ratings?  Jobs and security. Obama never made job creation his number one priority. He never placed the safety of Americans above his globalist progressive agenda.

That is why the country elected Donald Trump. His priorities are clear: putting Americans back to work and defeating radical Islamic terrorism.

His initial moves target those objectives. Approving the Keystone XL was a slam-dunk. In 2015 when Obama decided against the pipeline, a CNN/ORC poll showed that 57 percent of the country wanted it built; only 28 percent opposed it.  

What about the TPP? Rasmussen reports that 56 percent of the country favors walking away from the multination trade deal, while 27 percent disagrees.

How about cutting the size of the federal government? According to Rasmussen, voters agree by a two-to-one margin. More than half applaud Trump’s prioritizing “America First” and 73 percent think it’s more important to protect American manufacturing jobs that keep prices low.


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I wish those libtards would bring that fight and dewy with them to my town. My daughter has a few composite bats left over that would fit their head nicely
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Diannae Feinstein and her cronies dragging stamping their little feet and having their tantrum. 

"The Senate Judiciary Committee delayed voting Tuesday morning on the nomination of Sen. Jeff Sessions as attorney general. The panel was expected to approve and advance Sessions for a vote in the full Senate, but Democrats used a procedural move to delay the committee vote until Wednesday, a move to further prevent Trump from getting his full Cabinet in place in a timely manner."

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Why aren't the dems praising this? Where's the love for trump now?

"The White House released a statement Tuesday promising the Trump administration will keep an Obama-era executive order protecting LGBT rights. The 2014 measure prohibits federal contractors that do over $10,000 per year in government business from discriminating against workers on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. In 1998, Bill Clinton signed an order prohibiting discrimination against federal employees on the basis of sexual orientation, which also remained in place under his Republican successor, George W. Bush.

At the time Obama’s order was signed, the order was praised widely by LGBT advocates, but it was criticized by religious groups that hoped for an exemption from the rule. “While the nation has undergone incredible social and legal change over the last decade, we still live in a nation with different beliefs about sexuality,” read a letter written by 14 prominent religious leaders at the time, including several involved in the Obama administration. “An executive order that does not include a religious exemption will significantly and substantively hamper the work of some religious organizations that are best equipped to serve in common purpose with the federal government.

President Trump’s decision to keep the order—without a religious exemption, at least for now—is an interesting departure from conservative orthodoxy."


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They are too obvious.  Why the left's tactics of the past are no longer working: 

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They are too obvious.  Why the left's tactics of the past are no longer working: 

[3IKJj1r] 


But but but dewy said that politifact said that it's not preplanned. Soros has nothing to do with it because dewy read it on Politifact.com

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But but but dewy said that politifact said that it's not preplanned. Soros has nothing to do with it because dewy read it on Politifact.com


Looks like that politifaux truth-o-meter might need some calibrating.

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Maybe the signs were left over from his confirmation to the appeals court.

Wait a minute, that was unanimous.
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Maybe the signs were left over from his confirmation to the appeals court.

Wait a minute, that was unanimous.


Good possibility, how extreme and dangerous can one get in a 10 year time frame sitting in a court in Colorado, Judging,

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Durbin on MJ said he "didn't remember" voting for him.

They aren't even trying to come up with good excuses.
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Durbin on MJ said he "didn't remember" voting for him.

They aren't even trying to come up with good excuses.


Another great reason to support term limits, he can't remember. Funnyschitt

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Durbin on MJ said he "didn't remember" voting for him.

They aren't even trying to come up with good excuses.


Lol yea excuses are optional at this point. Soros funded shenanigans need no cover.

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Another great reason to support term limits, he can't remember. Funnyschitt


Roger that. Using forgetting as an excuse is a dem mainstay.

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I doubt hilLIARy remembers voting for him too. Just like Donald said, she's too ill to serve and too ill to remember where she was 9/11/2012. She fell and bumped her head. 4 years later she's still under the SOS concussion protocol
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Why does the DNC hate gays? I thought the gays were a big chunk of their 'base'? Mr. Tolliver points out the obvious, THAT KEITH X IS A MUSLIM, and they fire him. What is the DNC trying to hide? I don't get it.

"The Democratic National Committee expelled a candidate for the committee’s chairmanship on Tuesday after he said he didn’t believe his rival should become the party’s leader because of his Muslim faith.

Vincent Tolliver, who previously ran an unsuccessful campaign for Congress in Arkansas,told The Hill in an email he didn’t believe his rival Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn) should become chairman because of his Islamic faith, citing the religion’s positions on homosexuality.

“His being a Muslim is precisely why DNC voters should not vote for him. Muslims discriminate against gays. Islamic law is clear on the subject, and being gay is a direct violation of it. In some Muslim countries, being gay is a crime punishable by death,” Tolliver wrote.

“Clearly, Mr. Ellison is not the person to lead the DNC or any other organization committed to not discriminating based on gender identity or sexual orientation. I’m shocked [the Human Rights Campaign] has been silent on the issue. A vote for Representative Ellison by any member of the DNC would be divisive and unconscionable, not to mention counterproductive to the immediate and necessary steps of rebuilding the Democratic Party,” he continued.


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As a republican I am praying Ellison gets the nod.
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As a republican I am praying Ellison gets the nod.


Me too. They may be just broken enough to do it. Please let it be so......

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As a non-centrist I hope Ellison gets the nod also. The gays and trannies will trip out and all we'll get out of the UCS libs is who killed the Canucks.
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As a non-centrist I hope Ellison gets the nod also. The gays and trannies will trip out and all we'll get out of the UCS libs is who killed the Canucks.


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Durbin on MJ said he "didn't remember" voting for him.

OTOH, Brian Williams probably remembers voting for Gorsuch.

P.S. Ellison - or anyone to his left - for DNC Chair.
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