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pabar61

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Okay - but you're forgetting about social security, medicare, unemployment insurance, state and local taxes.  No, not all are federal but to suggest that $110K is only taxed at 9% is incorrect.  Don't forget about sales tax and other fees that are paid.
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Dewey proves again he is a dewfus.  Drilling into the 1/3 part of my genius club story. 
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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
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I was responding to a club (US Federal Government) taking 1/3 of every member's earnings.  Now you're adding insurance money for old age and medical care, state taxes citizens can avoid, and property taxes citizens can avoid.  There is no mandate for citizens to pay 1/3 of their income to the Government.  It was spin to make taxation look like a bad thing.  

I ask again, how does anybody ask our young men and women to sacrifice their life for a Government who steals from their citizens and pi**es most of the money away?  I can remember when the Right said this was a great Country.

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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
I was responding to a club (US Federal Government) taking 1/3 of every member's earnings.  Now you're adding insurance money for old age and medical care, state taxes citizens can avoid, and property taxes citizens can avoid.  There is no mandate for citizens to pay 1/3 of their income to the Government.  It was spin to make taxation look like a bad thing.  

I ask again, how does anybody ask our young men and women to sacrifice their life for a Government who steals from their citizens and pi**es most of the money away?  I can remember when the Right said this was a great Country.

It is a great country.  Just need to stop taking money from hard working folks and giving it to layabouts.  Then we will make the country great again.

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
Will_I_Wynn

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Layabouts steal money from Americans and pi** it away.  How can you label that great?
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The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


uwApoligist

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Layabouts steal money from Americans and pi** it away.  How can you label that great?

Just saying when we get rid of the layabouts stealing money from Americans and pissing it away, it will be great.

You no read english?

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
Will_I_Wynn

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Most on the Right believe this Country is great now.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


pabar61

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
Most on the Right believe this Country is great now.


Most on the left don't.

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Most on the Right believe this Country is great now.

Many voted for Trump and his Make America Great Again agenda.

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
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Of course the Left knows this Country is the greatest on the planet.  Same with our Government.  In fact, this thread was specifically designed for open minded people to hear that perspective from a person on the left and avoid the spin and misinformation so often spread by the Right.  Why the Right spreads falsehoods like that I can't explain.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
Of course the Left knows this Country is the greatest on the planet.  Same with our Government.  In fact, this thread was specifically designed for open minded people to hear that perspective from a person on the left and avoid the spin and misinformation so often spread by the Right.  Why the Right spreads falsehoods like that I can't explain.


Why do so many on the left threaten to leave the country if a GOP president is elected?

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Will_I_Wynn

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It could be a fear of nuclear war.  It could be hyperbole, like Trump often uses, that some take too literally.  That said, I didn't believe any of them were going to leave so I think it was just talk.  When Trump says millions of illegals voted, or that our elections are rigged, I tend to think he is not joking.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


TheNarrator

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Lol - not being in the US won’t save them in the event of nuclear war.
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pabar61

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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
It could be a fear of nuclear war.  It could be hyperbole, like Trump often uses, that some take too literally.  That said, I didn't believe any of them were going to leave so I think it was just talk.  When Trump says millions of illegals voted, or that our elections are rigged, I tend to think he is not joking.


Another question.  Michelle Obama said that, upon BHO's first election, it was the first time in her life that she was proud of the country.  Know anyone on the right who has said something like that?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pabar61


Another question.  Michelle Obama said that, upon BHO's first election, it was the first time in her life that she was proud of the country.  Know anyone on the right who has said something like that?


uh oh...
Will_I_Wynn

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I heard somebody on the Right say this Country isn't great until we stop wasting money on layabouts.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
I heard somebody on the Right say this Country isn't great until we stop wasting money on layabouts.


was that person in a position of prominence like the wife of the POTUS? 

was that person making a blatantly racist statement, showing her inner corruptness?
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The first Lady was inarticulate and corrected her comments later.  I know it wasn't what she meant.  On the other hand, this President continues to suggest this Country isn't great.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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The Right has spent years trying to spin a story that Michelle Obama is not proud of her Country.  They claim an inarticulate comment is evidence since few people make mistakes with words.  I can't explain why they want to push this story but, as this thread is designed to do, I can tell you the Left's perspective is that both the Obama's are very proud of this great Country.  That's the other side of the story.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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A trolling we will go, a trolling we will go......

I finally get it. Every time they act like they can't understand simple logic and make false claims.........

A trolling we will go, a trolling we will go.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
I heard somebody on the Right say this Country isn't great until we stop wasting money on layabouts.

Of course they said that.  Wasting money on layabouts is a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
Will_I_Wynn

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When was the year the Right didn't believe this Country pi**ed away money on layabouts?
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


Will_I_Wynn

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Dozens of threads for the Right to repeat the false accusation that the Obama's don't like America (can't explain why they continuously do this) and they come to this one to repeat it again.  As I said, I can't stop the barrage from the Right but I can provide the other side of the story.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fresh
A trolling we will go, a trolling we will go......

I finally get it. Every time they act like they can't understand simple logic and make false claims.........

A trolling we will go, a trolling we will go.


Pretty much have Dewey/Wyll/UWA nailed right there.

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uwApoligist

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When was the year the Right didn't believe this Country pi**ed away money on layabouts?

During Reagan and into Clinton.  Economy grew nicely.

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
Will_I_Wynn

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I remember Republicans saying we were wasting money on layabouts even during those Administrations.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


uwApoligist

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Quote:
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I remember Republicans saying we were wasting money on layabouts even during those Administrations.

I am sure some money was still being wasted on layabouts.  The idea is to minimize the burden of the lazy on the backs of the hard working.

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
TheNarrator

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Clinton signed welfare reform.

Dems used to care about this issue

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Clinton signed welfare reform. Dems used to care about this issue

Some argue was a direct result from the Reagan Tax Cuts.

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
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Clinton signing the bill was? That would be odd.


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