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keepinitreal

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So according to dewy there are few open minded individuals and therefore no longer a reason to prolong this silly thread. Go tackle the Democrat collusion juggernaut if you are indeed open minded. I double dawg dare you
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Open-minded individuals are those who haven't taken a firm stance as it relates to support of Trump or opposition to Trump. My guess is many of them are no longer open-minded on this and have lined up in opposition to this President. These remarks may have been the final straw.


So they let a made up statement by dickhead Durbin decide if they remain open minded? If they were truly open minded wouldn't they confirm what Durbin said was the truth with his past history of fabricating his own 'truth'? Dewy do you even understand what open mindedness means? Maybe you were the wrong person to author such a thread. You son are not open minded. You are a close minded individual who believes all goodness comes from government as long it is government that you voted for

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Open-minded individuals are those who haven't taken a firm stance as it relates to support of Trump or opposition to Trump


This is not you, so how many total of these individuals do you know?

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Open-minded individuals are those who haven't taken a firm stance as it relates to support of Trump or opposition to Trump. My guess is many of them are no longer open-minded on this and have lined up in opposition to this President. These remarks may have been the final straw.


Some closed-minded individuals couldn't tolerate any criticism of Obama and went so far as to enter the mind of Obama and explain to the readers what he "meant" when he said something very clearly almost two dozen times.

Some closed-minded individuals criticize others for changing their name in this forum and then change their own name because they were so monumentally wrong about the 2016 election.

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keepinitreal

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Dewy is horrible under pressure and so closed minded
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You think Trump stopping quota driven immigration from failed socialist countries which only serves to prop up the failed democratic party is going to cost him a lot of support?  That is an interesting theory.
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Once again President Trump has made some racist remarks that will trouble and alienate many open minded individuals

Must have missed it. What did he say that was racist? Surely you don’t mean calling out a sh ithole for being a sh ithole is racist. That would just be inflammatory rhetoric.
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Before Dewey tries to pin the impending government shut down on Trump.  Trump has done a great job of getting in front and taking his case to the American people.

Since the Dems were unwilling to come to a reasonable compromise on DACA, it is the Dems that are pushing to shut down our government.  If they are successful they will take badly needed funds from our military.   We already ask a lot of our military folks, we should not additionally burden them with the shifty democrat games.

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President Trump took out his pen and ended DACA.  There was no reason but one to do so.  He took this program hostage in order to hold it for ransom.  He's demanding Democrats fork up money to build a border wall, a wall he promised the American people they wouldn't have to pay for, or see DACA eliminated.  Democrats will not bite and should not bite.  The President should pull his pen back out and put DACA back into place.  No ransom should be paid since we shouldn't negotiate this type of Presidential move or he will do it over and over again.  If the President is willing to shut down the Government to force a ransom, so be it. It's all up to him.  It's high time President Trump just put DACA back into place and get back to budget discussions.
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Before Dewey tries to pin the impending government shut down on Trump.  Trump has done a great job of getting in front and taking his case to the American people.

Since the Dems were unwilling to come to a reasonable compromise on DACA, it is the Dems that are pushing to shut down our government.  If they are successful they will take badly needed funds from our military.   We already ask a lot of our military folks, we should not additionally burden them with the shifty democrat games.


Exactly right. I hope the dems shut it down. Another nail in the dem party coffin.

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Sounds like a fair trade, very open minded, very negotiable, working across the aisle, that's called bipartisanship, that's called conflict resolution, that's called compromise, we all get DACA, we all get the wall. Win, win, win for everyone that has an open mind.
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 As I said, each time my positive point of view troubles a member to the point they criticize me for making them, I know I'm making a solid case that might be somewhat persuasive.  I understand this is something most members inside here do not want to see happen.  In any event, give me time and I'll better adjust to being called out for making supportive comments rather than just allowing the negative ones to go unanswered.  Sorry, but I just can't let all the bashing go on without some countering perspective.  If you can't handle the more positive views, then you'll have to learn to adjust too.  Have a good one.



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President Trump took out his pen and ended DACA.  There was no reason but one to do so.  He took this program hostage in order to hold it for ransom.  He's demanding Democrats fork up money to build a border wall, a wall he promised the American people they wouldn't have to pay for, or see DACA eliminated.  Democrats will not bite and should not bite.  The President should pull his pen back out and put DACA back into place.  No ransom should be paid since we shouldn't negotiate this type of Presidential move or he will do it over and over again.  If the President is willing to shut down the Government to force a ransom, so be it. It's all up to him.  It's high time President Trump just put DACA back into place and get back to budget discussions.


"Open-minded individuals are those who haven't taken a firm stance as it relates to support of Trump or opposition to Trump "

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For months and months candidate Trump told the American people Mexico would pay for a border wall.  Soon President Trump will tell the American people he won't agree to a budget because Democrats won't supply tax dollars to build his wall.  That's not going to go over well with the voters and, if the Government shuts down because of his stubbornness, I think Americans will be quite angry with our President.
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I thought all conservatives wanted to deport or shoot the illegals?
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Only liberals think these supposed “government shutdowns” are a concern. It’s all Sky is falling rhetoric by the Dems to scare their constituents.
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Most Conservatives have no interest in shooting any illegal immigrants or deporting those who have established lives here in America. I would suggest trying a new cable TV channel.
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President Trump is no more a marketing genius than Jim Jones, the man who got his followers to drink poison.  As Sen Rubio said, Trump is a con artist who convinced millions to believe Obama was born in Africa, large numbers of undocumented voted, US elections are rigged, the deep State is out to get him personally, and the statement telling individuals of color to go back where they came from, is not racist.
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But those were your words Dewey.do you pretend to not know what you wrote under your previous handle
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Get ready for a name change or repositioning of the goalpost.

I guess we are now seeing why Dewey changed his name. He can now pretend he didn’t say all those things.
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Sounds like a fair trade, very open minded, very negotiable, working across the aisle, that's called bipartisanship, that's called conflict resolution, that's called compromise, we all get DACA, we all get the wall. Win, win, win for everyone that has an open mind.

Would have been too.  But damn democrats have to import quota numbers from sh1thole failed socialist government to prop up their failing poll numbers.  Too bad.  I was hoping they could find a way to be a bit more open minded.

But maybe it is like ole Dewey says.  They have already made up their mind, and closed them.  Not a good way to live.  Kinda like spending an eternity with no pepperoni pizza.

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For months and months candidate Trump told the American people Mexico would pay for a border wall.  Soon President Trump will tell the American people he won't agree to a budget because Democrats won't supply tax dollars to build his wall.  That's not going to go over well with the voters and, if the Government shuts down because of his stubbornness, I think Americans will be quite angry with our President.

I suspect it will be the dems that find out that most of America thought their illegal immigrant sham was taking advantage of normal every day hard working Americans.  Only to serve the elite dem party bosses.

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But those were your words Dewey.do you pretend to not know what you wrote under your previous handle


Dewey is the great pretender.

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President Obama gave us DACA, a program that provided legal status to many illegal immigrant children who were brought here by their parents when they were very young.  This legal status allowed these individuals to continue their schooling and work without fear of being picked up and deported.  These young people know no other Country than the USA and are well established in this Country.

President Trump came along and ended the program and these young people once again live in fear.  He's using DACA as a bargaining chip to try and force Democrat representatives in Congress to supply him with money to build a wall.  Democrats are refusing to be held hostage and will not give in to this ransom attempt by President Trump.

Now that Trump has heard the word "no", he is telling Americans the Democrats don't want DACA.  Of course this is absurd and untrue.  Democrats support DACA and are working hard to see it reinstated.  However, they will not allow arm-twisting or untrue claims by the White House to alter their resolve. 

Now you know the other side of the DACA story.  


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Good lord dewey, you are a sick sanctimonious liar.
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Better than conservatives wanting to shoot them, right dewyllie?
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Dems are unreasonable fools. 

America does not want quota'd immigrants that do not have the education levels, or abilities to be successful in a competitive society.  The average American worker is smart enough to understand that these immigrants are brought in and become an immediate burden on already stressed social infrastructure like education and healthcare.

The return to a abilities based immigration system ensures that immigrants that come here can add to our society not take away from it.

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http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-hanson-dreamer-agenda-20180114-story.html




Now Democrats are demanding the preservation and institutionalization of the DACA program. One day soon, they will likely demand its expansion. They do not control either house of Congress or the presidency. They do not enjoy a majority of state legislatures and governorships. To get their way, they are counting on either favorable public opinion or threats to shut down the government.

Democrats are so focused on the 800,000 Dreamers — less than 10% of the undocumented population — because they’re politically photogenic and for now seen as the easiest group to exempt from efforts to control illegal immigration. In blanket fashion, the media consistently report that they are model youth, fulfilling their proverbial “dreams” of finishing college and achieving upward mobility.

That narrative lacks subtlety, if it’s not outright deceptive. The average age of DACA participants is now 24. Few after entering adulthood sought to address their known illegal status. Surveys suggest that most are not in school; fewer than 5% have graduated from college. Those employed earn a median hourly wage of $15.34, which means they are forced to compete on the lower end of the wage ladder. Only about a tenth of 1% of DACA youth serve in the U.S. military — fewer than 900 total.

Setting aside the reality of the Dreamer pool, the Democrats’ method of fighting for DACA suggests that they are broadly in favor of letting immigration dysfunction continue apace. Why else would they refuse to give President Trump any significant concessions in the DACA negotiations — no wall, no end to chain migration, no cessation of visa lotteries?

They know that if this generation of Dreamers gets a pass without broader reform, it will be followed by another and another, all expecting the same eventual exemptions.

Democrats once used to talk about ending outright illegal immigration. They worried that it put downward pressure on wages. They thought it eroded union efforts and sapped political support among Democrats’ blue-collar base, while overtaxing finite social services to the detriment of the American underclass.


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Finding an author with a strong right-leaning position on immigration is very easy to do.  There are several expressing the exact same views right here in this forum.  The other side of the story was to explain why the DACA program was withdrawn by a new President and once again left in limbo.
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President Trump is no more a marketing genius than Jim Jones, the man who got his followers to drink poison.  As Sen Rubio said, Trump is a con artist who convinced millions to believe Obama was born in Africa, large numbers of undocumented voted, US elections are rigged, the deep State is out to get him personally, and the statement telling individuals of color to go back where they came from, is not racist.
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Finding an author with a strong right-leaning position on immigration is very easy to do.  There are several expressing the exact same views right here in this forum.  The other side of the story was to explain why the DACA program was withdrawn by a new President and once again left in limbo.




Why do you repeatedly ignore facts?

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If they are even slightly concerned the would apply for citizenship.  

Don't like that you might be deported?  Don't remain in the country illegally.  Problem solved.

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