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keepinitreal

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
uwApoligist

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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
It appears the Right would like to tell both sides of the story.  Unfortunately, they cannot tell the Left how to think.  Our opinions can't be dismissed.

The tax bill begs the question so many on the Right like to ask.  Why didn't the GOP double or triple the tax cut?  It would appear there is no limit.  If so, where does it lie?

We could definitely cut more.  Hopefully they are practicing incrementalism.  Get this win, cement it in, get the the spending cuts, rinse repeat.

No limit.  hmm, we has zero income tax until 1918, except some for the civil war.  Of course that makes no sense in the modern world. 

But getting the federal government back focused on defense only makes the most sense for the American people.  Let the states take on education and health care.  It is what makes sense, it is way less bureaucracy, way more nimble, states can experiment, create different approaches, adopt what works best. 

Not trying to tell you how to think.  Just telling you should try thinking.  You think money go poof?  

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Our Country spends $4T and takes in $3.2T.  We're losing close to $1 Trillion again.  Too many Americans think some of our expenditures are unnecessary and unfortunately say, "Not me, let somebody else pay for it."

Some Americans think health insurance is too high and will use our ER's if they ever get sick or hurt.  "Insurance is too high and I refuse to for pay it.  Let somebody else pay if I'm sick."

Many Americans will support military action against North Korea as they did in Iraq.  Unfortunately, they feel they've paid enough in taxes and will support borrowing to pay for these wars.  In other words, "Let somebody else pay for it."

Self reliance is in the eye of the beholder.






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The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


Will_I_Wynn

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When you get that spending down (you won't because it's mostly important spending in the eyes of Americans) I'll favor American tax cuts.  Until then, our political disagreement only harms the innocent.  We'll bask in the money coming our way and ignore what we're doing to others.  (Almost sounds like the climate change argument, huh?)
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


uwApoligist

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Well we had the votes to get the taxes cuts.  You had the votes to get the crazy spending frenzy.

I guess we will figure out the difference at some point.

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keepinitreal

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Has dewy contemplated intended consequences of the tax cuts? His post above, way above, looks like he listed the pros of the tax cuts after his 6 pages of make believe cons
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
Will_I_Wynn

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As I illustrated in sharing the other side of the story, we've had 17 years of spending growth limited to 3.8% on average.  Excellent record of restrained spending contrary to what is spewed by the Right who works hard to convince Americans we spend like crazy.  It's untrue and the intention is to disguise tax relief as being acceptable.

While the annual growth in spending was a little higher under President Bush than it was during the Obama years, it was restrained outside of wars and the Part D prescription program.  With that in mind, he was labeled by his own supporters as being a big spender and horrible at controlling our debt.  He was largely condemned by many on the Right and the Tea Party rose in outrage. 

This time around, a President Trump is almost certainly going to grow spending at higher percentage growth levels than President Bush and it's nearly a guarantee he'll add more to our total debt (not by percentage but by dollars) than President Bush and yet it appears it's of little consequence to the Right anymore.  Incredible change in attitude. 


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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


keepinitreal

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Incredible
MAGA

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
Emptynester

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You said it KIR. Will with another version of Spin, Rinse , Repeat. Like flipping through cable and landing on Young and the Restless. Still talking about the same stuff 15 years later.
keepinitreal

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You said it KIR. Will with another version of Spin, Rinse , Repeat. Like flipping through cable and landing on Young and the Restless. Still talking about the same stuff 15 years later.

You've been around awhile brother if you remember spin, rinse, repeat
  • Castigate,
  • Deflect,
  • Preach,
  • Patronize,
  • Move goalposts

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
TheNarrator

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Thankfully gop house held big spender Obama in check or his record debt would be 1.26 trillion higher.

For our children’s sake, thank you John Boehner.

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bluedog

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Durden, you liberals will never understand the deficit is meaningless............It'll never get paid-back..........

You're welcome for the lesson...........
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Durden, you liberals will never understand the DEBT is meaningless............It'll never get paid-back..........

You're welcome for the lesson...........

FTFY and Right back at ya

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TheNarrator

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Come on spaz - you've got to leave that stuff up there
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He can't help himself.........
Will_I_Wynn

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- Candidate Trump unfairly diminished multiple GOP primary opponents with labels like "liar" and "pathological".

- Candidate Trump inappropriately reached out for help from our foreign adversary for help to win the election.  They obliged.

- Candidate Trump unfairly told voters his final Presidential opponent was a crook and would be indicted if she won.  It was not true.

- President Trump ultimately won the necessary votes but his win was not fair and square in the minds of millions due to his unfair and false claims which many found akin to cheating.

- Millions of his fellow Republicans are angry he is our President.  This should not be ignored.

- Millions and millions of those who didn't vote for Trump are angry he is our President.  This should not be a surprise when considering his methods used to win.

- Millions of minorities, numerous organizations within our Country, and many of our allies around the world are extremely unhappy President Trump is in the White House.  This should be of concern to all of us.

- This is where we are almost one year into the Trump Presidency.  These are the views of those who feel how you win, and how you govern, matters.  This is the other side of the story.






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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


uwApoligist

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Illegal immigration at a 17 year low.
Stock market record highs
Black unemployment record low
Getting closer to an immigration system that makes sense for the American worker, not one built to directly attack workers.
Tax Cuts put money back in the pocket of American workers.
Getting our massively out of control federal bureaucracy under control.
Taking the war directly to ISIS. 
Exposing obama's criminal behavior as president.
Exposing the Clintons as criminals

That is where we are, and it is pretty good.  

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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
- Candidate Trump unfairly diminished multiple GOP primary opponents with labels like "liar" and "pathological".

- Candidate Trump inappropriately reached out for help from our foreign adversary for help to win the election.  They obliged.

- Candidate Trump unfairly told voters his final Presidential opponent was a crook and would be indicted if she won.  It was not true.

- President Trump ultimately won the necessary votes but his win was not fair and square in the minds of millions due to his unfair and false claims which many found akin to cheating.

- Millions of his fellow Republicans are angry he is our President.  This should not be ignored.

- Millions and millions of those who didn't vote for Trump are angry he is our President.  This should not be a surprise when considering his methods used to win.

- Millions of minorities, numerous organizations within our Country, and many of our allies around the world are extremely unhappy President Trump is in the White House.  This should be of concern to all of us.

- This is where we are almost one year into the Trump Presidency.  These are the views of those who feel how you win, and how you govern, matters.  This is the other side of the story.







What is the point of this post?  Trump did nothing illegal, unlike the DNC's screwing of Sanders.  This is the height of sour grapes.

By the way, the country is doing just fine but you clearly are not happy about that since it's not with a D in the White House.

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Obama said if you liked your doctor, you could keep your doctor.
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Rather than just posting an emotional diatribe like the name-changer Dewey, I will post links to real substance:

Obama knew in August 2016 that the Russians were trying to meddle in our election.  Why did he do nothing about it?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/06/23/even-democrats-wanted-obama-to-speak-out-much-sooner-about-russia/?utm_term=.7ccce24fa5a4

Why did the DNC allow Hillary Clinton to assume complete control of its operations when the nomination was stall in doubt?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

Why did Donna Brazile give Hillary debate questions ahead of the debate?

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/donna-brazile-finally-admits-she-shared-debate-questions-with-clinton-campaign/article/2617742

Isn't it just as likely, if not more likely, that it was Hillary who colluded with the Russians, rather than Trump?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/10/fusion-gpss-ties-to-clinton-campaign-russia-investigation-what-to-know.html

It's highly likely that the meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch was related to taking pressure off Hillary with regard to her illegal email server.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/13/judicial-watch-says-fbi-has-found-clinton-lynch-tarmac-meeting-documents.html

Why has the media not been held to account for their rampant favoritism of everything liberal and how that has a huge impact on skewing all polling?

https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/media-malpractice-media-bias-and-2016-election/



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keepinitreal

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Originally Posted by pabar61


What is the point of this post?  Trump did nothing illegal, unlike the DNC's screwing of Sanders.  This is the height of sour grapes.

By the way, the country is doing just fine but you clearly are not happy about that since it's not with a D in the White House.


The point of the post is dewy proving he is no longer a Happy Democrat. Looks like his attitude and his demeanor have gone to the schitter in just a few months time

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Kentucky goes first.  80hrs of community engagement to receive your free medicaid benefits.  

For dew, this is about able bodied free benefit receiving layabouts, getting some work done to get their gibmedats.

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Millions and millions of those who didn't vote for odummer were angry he was our President. This should not be a surprise when considering his methods used to win.

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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Kentucky goes first.  80hrs of community engagement to receive your free medicaid benefits.  

For dew, this is about able bodied free benefit receiving layabouts, getting some work done to get their gibmedats.


Win-win-win

Teaches the chirren a work ethic while it gets their parents off the couch, overall creating better mental health situation for the family

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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The Dems will scream we are disenfranchising the layabouts. It’s too big a burden on them.
Oh and it’s raayyyyccisstt

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Will_I_Wynn

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Once again President Trump has made some racist remarks that will trouble and alienate many open minded individuals. While these comments may be embraced by some supporters, it further divides many Americans and likely diminishes Trump approval a little more.

President Trump is the LaVar Ball of politics. Hard to tell if he's helping those who love him or screwing things up unnecessarily.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Trump's tough language goes to the heart of the matter. 

Why is it benefit to have quotas from socialist countries, vs a merit based immigration system?

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Once again President Trump has made some racist remarks that will trouble and alienate many open minded individuals. While these comments may be embraced by some supporters, it further divides many Americans and likely diminishes Trump approval a little more. President Trump is the LaVar Ball of politics. Hard to tell if he's helping those who love him or screwing things up unnecessarily.


He has denied what people are claiming he said.  Tom Cotton says he didn't say it.

For someone who has spent countless posts explaining what Obama "meant" by many of his quotes, I would think you would give others the benefit of the doubt.  Guess it shows how partisan you really are.

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Once again President Trump has made some racist remarks that will trouble and alienate many open minded individuals. While these comments may be embraced by some supporters, it further divides many Americans and likely diminishes Trump approval a little more. President Trump is the LaVar Ball of politics. Hard to tell if he's helping those who love him or screwing things up unnecessarily.


And you are the LiAngelo Ball of this forum.  Throwing up brick after brick without ever scoring.

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If they are open minded individuals, why in the world would they be alienated?
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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