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pabar61

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Btw, I understand other Americans have a different idea as to how this Country should operate than I and the Left do.  That's the nature of this Country.  My goal is to illustrate the differences in our plans to those searching with open minds.  Americans disagree and that's perfectly fine.  However, our positions need to be clear and sometimes they just aren't.


Shouldn't you use the pronoun Our to represent Dewey and Will I Win?

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There must not be many of you with these 'open minds' because every reader here, as a new softball season begins, would lean to the side with an open mind or not an open mind because they want tax relief?  Just asking for a friend.  Choose A or B

A) Americans seeking tax relief = open minded
B) Americans seeking tax relief = closed minded

Spell it out for the freshman parents dewy, there must be confusion among the 50K

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Btw, I understand other Americans have a different idea as to how this Country should operate than I and the Left do.  That's the nature of this Country.  My goal is to illustrate the differences in our plans to those searching with open minds.  Americans disagree and that's perfectly fine.  However, our positions need to be clear and sometimes they just aren't.


Couldn't agree more

GOP - less government - lower taxes
Dems - more government - higher taxes
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I choose A.

What really intrigues me is the heat you take because of your blunt language.  But nobody calls Dewey on the carpet for his incredibly insulting thread title, implying that those of us on the right are not open minded.

Last time I checked it was Dewey and Fresh's Democrat Party that liked slavery, Jim Crow and the KKK and that was doing the vast majority of the raping and groping in Hollywood.

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Couldn't agree more

GOP - less government - lower taxes
Dems - more government - higher taxes


Excellent, only took 6 pages

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Last time I checked it was Dewey and Fresh's Democrat Party that liked slavery, Jim Crow and the KKK and that was doing the vast majority of the raping and groping in Hollywood.


It is their party and their members of that party but they sent Oprah to chastise ALL of us.


The other stuff, about taking heat, I consider the source.  Some, a few, have written me behind the scenes and asked me to tone it down. I listen because they took the time to write.  I write what I feel and really write nothing that we don't hear everyday, in our everyday lives.  I've always heeded your opinions and posts as most genuine pabar

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From 1980-1990 we doubled in size in Government revenue ($.519T to $1.031T) and from 1990-2000 we doubled again ($1.031T to $2.025T).  I used a more conservative number to try and be fair in my comparison of the Bush years.  Some would use our past history and say our revenue should be $4T in 2010 and they would have a good point.  Tax cuts from the Bush Administration are surely killing us when it comes to tax revenue.

It is very difficult to convince those on the Right that tax cuts are stifling Government revenue but it's very easy to use the exact revenue numbers from previous years to make a case they are hurting us dearly.

Economy grows revenue goes up, economy shrank during Bush, revenue went down.

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I've made numerous posts hoping open minded individuals would realize this simple fact.  The GOP encourages deficits in hopes they can force a reduction in Government spending.  It's a simple goal.  Tax cuts forcing lower revenues is their path to supposedly lower Government spending.  Unfortunately, Government spending goes up slightly each year due to inflation and population growth and all the GOP ever accomplishes is increasing our debt. 

I've previously said a balanced budget is the enemy of the GOP when it comes to shrinking Government.  The GOP would have little clout to cut spending if we had a surplus.  The American people would tell them to go away if they tried to reduce programs that we can afford.  Therefore they convince Americans to support less taxes, which provides less Government revenue, and grows our deficit.  The spending doesn't go away and the borrowing just grows.  The only one paying a price is future generations and I'm confident they won't look upon us kindly.  The polling of the American people against this tax bill tell me they finally get  what's going on.  Let's hope it carries on through future elections. 

 

"reduction in Goverment spening" is not just a simple goal, but a noble one.  It was why this country was formed how it got great.

We clearly cannot afford those programs, hence the debt.  Dems just want someone else to pay.  They don't realize that the hardworking middle class are the ones paying.   

Not enough rich to fund your socialist utoptia, so it always turns into socialist sh!thole, always will.  Besides no one should be expected/demanded to work 1/3 of their life to support your pro-layabout agenda.  

So it always comes back to the middle class, and they always vote on the side of not paying for it.

So the only logical answer is to cut spending.  Look forward to your help.

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- Since 2000, Federal spending has grown about 3.8% each year, lowest since Clinton years.

- Generally speaking, GOP doesn't want revenue to increase.

- Revenue shrank dramatically during Bush years.

- Right continues to tell Americans we will stop Federal spending from growing each year.

- Tax cuts reduce the revenue federal Government would otherwise receive.

- Our yearly deficits that grow our national debt are the result of revenue being stifled due to tax cuts and recessions.

- Out of control spending is hype to disguise actual reason behind growing debt.

- The deficits created by our political disagreements become the obligation of our children.

- With deficits at over $600 billion, no one on the Right should claim they are paying for layabouts or moochers.  They are only paying for national defense, veteran's needs, border security, care for the sick and needy, and the like.  Our children are paying for the $600+ billion we supposedly pay for layabouts, moochers, and waste.




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- With deficits at over $600 billion, no one on the Right should claim they are paying for layabouts or moochers.  They are only paying for national defense, veteran's needs, border security, care for the sick and needy, and the like.  Our children are paying for the $600+ billion we supposedly pay for layabouts, moochers, and waste.


You actually nailed it.  Let's all help out the children of the future and stop paying for them!

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There is no $600+ billion being wasted on spending and layabouts.  This is spending the American people have supported and spending you won't see this GOP Congress reduce by any great amount.  They won't cut it because it is mostly needed.  The claim of wasteful spending is nothing but an excuse for our large budget deficits due largely to tax relief.

If a war with North Korea does occur, and two or three hundred billion dollars is needed to fight it, the Right will not raise taxes to cover our obligation.  They will revisit Government commitments and say, "Hey, we found another $300 billion in waste.  Please use that to fight the war."  When it comes to a lack of self reliance and dependence on others to pay the way, history will show our generation and the 25+ years of significant borrowing, to be the number one example on the list.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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There is no $600+ billion being wasted on spending and layabouts.  This is spending the American people have supported and spending you won't see this GOP Congress reduce by any great amount.  They won't cut it because it is mostly needed.  The claim of wasteful spending is nothing but an excuse for our large budget deficits due largely to tax relief.

If a war with North Korea does occur, and two or three hundred billion dollars is needed to fight it, the Right will not raise taxes to cover our obligation.  They will revisit Government commitments and say, "Hey, we found another $300 billion in waste.  Please use that to fight the war."  When it comes to a lack of self reliance and dependence on others to pay the way, history will show our generation and the 25+ years of significant borrowing, to be the number one example on the list.

The spending cuts will come if you were to get on board.  Sounds like you want to, why not?

Yes if war with Korea breaks your socialist utopia disappears.  It is called priorities.

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Ted is open minded, causing dewy to throw up a little in his mouf

[TaxCuts]
 
"Before the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed into law, there were seven tax brackets: 10, 15, 25, 28, 33, 35, and 39.6 percent rates. The tax reform legislation cut those rates to 10, 12, 22, 24, 32, 35, and 37 percent...
 
"Cruz's bill would amend the tax code to make the individual tax cuts permanent so they would not expire."

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Bernie said they should be permanent.  It is a no brainer.
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Bernie did, he's open-minded
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Bernie is not hyperpartisan like ole dew is.
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Bernie is Oprah in drag..........
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Bluedog why didn't you tell freshy to pace himself..... you're pretty good at giving unsolicited advice....now he's gone...one of the few open minded
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#fakenews
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No way Freshie left.........There's just too many opportunities to chum around here..........I'm not buying it - Freshie wouldn't give that up...........
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Real, you should feel fortunate for the advice you get..........Me and Rudy should charge for our advice.........I guess it's just our way of giving-back - for what I don't know.........

Although, sometimes Rudy does slip-a-bit..........There's times, he's just plain old wrong.........
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#fakenews


freshy? is that you?

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Rudy, Real is right - there are times when you seem to lose-it............Your mind seems-to-wander..........Bad tamales? - I don't know...........
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More misinformation being bandied about so time for the other side of the story...


- Most Democrats favored cuts in the corporate tax rates.  This should have been a stand alone bill.

- Most Democrats are against cuts in rates to wealthy people.  It's nothing more than borrowing from future generations to make wealthier people wealthier.  It's why Democrats and most Americans are against the new tax law.

- Lower Corporate taxes will result in some of their tax windfall going to their employees.  To do otherwise would be to destroy employee morale.

- Most Democrats feel lower taxes to wealthy families only trickles down to their kids and their savings accounts.

- Individuals who are business owners use our 10, 15, and 25% tax rates.  If they make more than that, they'll find a way to use corporate rates.  Explaining how rich individuals needed a tax break falls mostly on deaf ears.

- Wal Mart is increasing their minimum wage.  Democrats always knew increasing the minimum wage does not hurt workers.

- If we take billions from the next generation to give to this generation, Democrats have a problem seeing any gain.  We were $700 billion short of paying our bills and Republicans thought we had extra money to offer tax relief.  I offer my apologies to young and future Americans.






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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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I'll only address the minimum wage comment which is, of course, another disingenuous comment from the liar-in-chief of this forum.

Minimum wage, when mandated by government fiat, has been proven time and time again to hurt workers by negatively impacting employment.

Minimum wage, when voluntarily adopted by an individual business, is a decision they make based on how they think it will impact their business.

Two completely different things.

You're welcome.

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No sources from Dewyllie, just his ramblings.  When he says "most", he means himself and the voices.

Who knew all it took to get a raise in minimum wage was to allow the GOP to control all three branches of government.
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- Most Democrats are against cuts in rates to wealthy people.  It's nothing more than borrowing from future generations to make wealthier people wealthier.  It's why Democrats and most Americans are against the new tax law.

- Lower Corporate taxes will result in some of their tax windfall going to their employees.  To do otherwise would be to destroy employee morale.

- Wal Mart is increasing their minimum wage.  Democrats always knew increasing the minimum wage does not hurt workers.


With proper spending restraint we would not need to borrow anything from the chillruns.

Your lack of understanding how investment happens explains a lot on why things never came together for you. 

Lower corporate taxes only have 3 places to go.  Invest directly in business (management says we know how to turn that investment into more profit),  invest in other businesses (management saying we believe we can pick other companies that can make more money than us), or dividend the money to stock holders (manage saying we don't know what the frick, so here is some money back for you to invest cause you are probably smarter). 

All of them end up invested in additional businesses, creating jobs.   Money never goes poof.   When your dem friends dream up these elaborate schemes, ask them where they think that money ends up.  It has to go somewhere.

Democrats knew increased wages helped workers.  Unfortunately they still got it totally wrong.  Forced governmental increases in wages always results in less employment, always has always will.  Market driven increase in wages, that is what moves workers forward.  

Also dems further shoot themselves in the foot by flooding a number of industries, like building, shipping, and cleaning trades, with mass numbers of low wage illegal immigrants.  This does more to erode the worker mans salary than any other single action in the American economy.

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It appears the Right would like to tell both sides of the story.  Unfortunately, they cannot tell the Left how to think.  Our opinions can't be dismissed.

The tax bill begs the question so many on the Right like to ask.  Why didn't the GOP double or triple the tax cut?  It would appear there is no limit.  If so, where does it lie?

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The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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It appears the left would like to make up the story with phony numbers and claims about the right.

There will always be good folks here keeping tabs on dewyllie.
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"- Wal Mart is increasing their minimum wage. Democrats always knew increasing the minimum wage does not hurt workers."

Then they shuttered stores laying many people off

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