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EarlyGrayce

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uwApoligist 

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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
There are many threads to champion President Trump.  Many opportunities to hype or praise what he has done and many threads to express the belief everyone is against him.  The press is against him, the FBI, the intelligence community, the DOJ, the RNC, the BLS, the Fed, election officials, the courts, CNN, the Generals, and Steve Bannon to name a few.  There are many threads open to making claims Democrats are insane, blind, or just plain wrong.  Members who support the "Right view of the story"  are free to do it here as well but this thread will continue to be boresome and chuck full of drivel for the not so open minded individuals to take into consideration.   


#CHUCKFULLOFDRIVEL hehehe yes indeed.

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 [figure_4]

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So, that would be Yes.


I actually thought he forgot to post the link.

Any credibility he might have regained with the name change is gone.

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I, for one, want tax revenues to not go up. 


I've made numerous posts hoping open minded individuals would realize this simple fact.  The GOP encourages deficits in hopes they can force a reduction in Government spending.  It's a simple goal.  Tax cuts forcing lower revenues is their path to supposedly lower Government spending.  Unfortunately, Government spending goes up slightly each year due to inflation and population growth and all the GOP ever accomplishes is increasing our debt. 

I've previously said a balanced budget is the enemy of the GOP when it comes to shrinking Government.  The GOP would have little clout to cut spending if we had a surplus.  The American people would tell them to go away if they tried to reduce programs that we can afford.  Therefore they convince Americans to support less taxes, which provides less Government revenue, and grows our deficit.  The spending doesn't go away and the borrowing just grows.  The only one paying a price is future generations and I'm confident they won't look upon us kindly.  The polling of the American people against this tax bill tell me they finally get  what's going on.  Let's hope it carries on through future elections. 

 

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Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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At least pabar uses the word tax, when he uses revenues, unlike dewy throughout this thread.  He states he wants less tax revenues, dewy has never said that.  Hence the statement that "Democrats never met a tax that they didn't like" still holds true.  This thread is further proof, dewy is open minded because he is pro tax increase,

Dewy = open minded
everyone else = not open minded.

No one else in the forum has come down on dewy's side

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn

 Tax cuts forcing lower revenues is their path to supposedly lower Government spending. Unfortunately, Government spending goes up slightly each year due to inflation and population growth and all the GOP ever accomplishes is increasing our debt. 

 


Why so negative, this is a great country remember.  Make it happen and don't be such a Negative Nelly.  Use some of that negative energy that you have spent here since your return and come up with solutions instead of complaining.  When you're making and selling fittings [widgets] do you continuously look for ways to overspend more than you have?

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
Will_I_Wynn

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Btw, I understand other Americans have a different idea as to how this Country should operate than I and the Left do.  That's the nature of this Country.  My goal is to illustrate the differences in our plans to those searching with open minds.  Americans disagree and that's perfectly fine.  However, our positions need to be clear and sometimes they just aren't.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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Btw, I understand other Americans have a different idea as to how this Country should operate than I and the Left do.  That's the nature of this Country.  My goal is to illustrate the differences in our plans to those searching with open minds.  Americans disagree and that's perfectly fine.  However, our positions need to be clear and sometimes they just aren't.


Shouldn't you use the pronoun Our to represent Dewey and Will I Win?

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keepinitreal

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There must not be many of you with these 'open minds' because every reader here, as a new softball season begins, would lean to the side with an open mind or not an open mind because they want tax relief?  Just asking for a friend.  Choose A or B

A) Americans seeking tax relief = open minded
B) Americans seeking tax relief = closed minded

Spell it out for the freshman parents dewy, there must be confusion among the 50K

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
TheNarrator

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Btw, I understand other Americans have a different idea as to how this Country should operate than I and the Left do.  That's the nature of this Country.  My goal is to illustrate the differences in our plans to those searching with open minds.  Americans disagree and that's perfectly fine.  However, our positions need to be clear and sometimes they just aren't.


Couldn't agree more

GOP - less government - lower taxes
Dems - more government - higher taxes

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pabar61

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I choose A.

What really intrigues me is the heat you take because of your blunt language.  But nobody calls Dewey on the carpet for his incredibly insulting thread title, implying that those of us on the right are not open minded.

Last time I checked it was Dewey and Fresh's Democrat Party that liked slavery, Jim Crow and the KKK and that was doing the vast majority of the raping and groping in Hollywood.

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Couldn't agree more

GOP - less government - lower taxes
Dems - more government - higher taxes


Excellent, only took 6 pages

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Last time I checked it was Dewey and Fresh's Democrat Party that liked slavery, Jim Crow and the KKK and that was doing the vast majority of the raping and groping in Hollywood.


It is their party and their members of that party but they sent Oprah to chastise ALL of us.


The other stuff, about taking heat, I consider the source.  Some, a few, have written me behind the scenes and asked me to tone it down. I listen because they took the time to write.  I write what I feel and really write nothing that we don't hear everyday, in our everyday lives.  I've always heeded your opinions and posts as most genuine pabar

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
uwApoligist

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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
From 1980-1990 we doubled in size in Government revenue ($.519T to $1.031T) and from 1990-2000 we doubled again ($1.031T to $2.025T).  I used a more conservative number to try and be fair in my comparison of the Bush years.  Some would use our past history and say our revenue should be $4T in 2010 and they would have a good point.  Tax cuts from the Bush Administration are surely killing us when it comes to tax revenue.

It is very difficult to convince those on the Right that tax cuts are stifling Government revenue but it's very easy to use the exact revenue numbers from previous years to make a case they are hurting us dearly.

Economy grows revenue goes up, economy shrank during Bush, revenue went down.

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
uwApoligist

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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn


I've made numerous posts hoping open minded individuals would realize this simple fact.  The GOP encourages deficits in hopes they can force a reduction in Government spending.  It's a simple goal.  Tax cuts forcing lower revenues is their path to supposedly lower Government spending.  Unfortunately, Government spending goes up slightly each year due to inflation and population growth and all the GOP ever accomplishes is increasing our debt. 

I've previously said a balanced budget is the enemy of the GOP when it comes to shrinking Government.  The GOP would have little clout to cut spending if we had a surplus.  The American people would tell them to go away if they tried to reduce programs that we can afford.  Therefore they convince Americans to support less taxes, which provides less Government revenue, and grows our deficit.  The spending doesn't go away and the borrowing just grows.  The only one paying a price is future generations and I'm confident they won't look upon us kindly.  The polling of the American people against this tax bill tell me they finally get  what's going on.  Let's hope it carries on through future elections. 

 

"reduction in Goverment spening" is not just a simple goal, but a noble one.  It was why this country was formed how it got great.

We clearly cannot afford those programs, hence the debt.  Dems just want someone else to pay.  They don't realize that the hardworking middle class are the ones paying.   

Not enough rich to fund your socialist utoptia, so it always turns into socialist sh!thole, always will.  Besides no one should be expected/demanded to work 1/3 of their life to support your pro-layabout agenda.  

So it always comes back to the middle class, and they always vote on the side of not paying for it.

So the only logical answer is to cut spending.  Look forward to your help.

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"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
Will_I_Wynn

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- Since 2000, Federal spending has grown about 3.8% each year, lowest since Clinton years.

- Generally speaking, GOP doesn't want revenue to increase.

- Revenue shrank dramatically during Bush years.

- Right continues to tell Americans we will stop Federal spending from growing each year.

- Tax cuts reduce the revenue federal Government would otherwise receive.

- Our yearly deficits that grow our national debt are the result of revenue being stifled due to tax cuts and recessions.

- Out of control spending is hype to disguise actual reason behind growing debt.

- The deficits created by our political disagreements become the obligation of our children.

- With deficits at over $600 billion, no one on the Right should claim they are paying for layabouts or moochers.  They are only paying for national defense, veteran's needs, border security, care for the sick and needy, and the like.  Our children are paying for the $600+ billion we supposedly pay for layabouts, moochers, and waste.




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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
- With deficits at over $600 billion, no one on the Right should claim they are paying for layabouts or moochers.  They are only paying for national defense, veteran's needs, border security, care for the sick and needy, and the like.  Our children are paying for the $600+ billion we supposedly pay for layabouts, moochers, and waste.


You actually nailed it.  Let's all help out the children of the future and stop paying for them!


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There is no $600+ billion being wasted on spending and layabouts.  This is spending the American people have supported and spending you won't see this GOP Congress reduce by any great amount.  They won't cut it because it is mostly needed.  The claim of wasteful spending is nothing but an excuse for our large budget deficits due largely to tax relief.

If a war with North Korea does occur, and two or three hundred billion dollars is needed to fight it, the Right will not raise taxes to cover our obligation.  They will revisit Government commitments and say, "Hey, we found another $300 billion in waste.  Please use that to fight the war."  When it comes to a lack of self reliance and dependence on others to pay the way, history will show our generation and the 25+ years of significant borrowing, to be the number one example on the list.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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There is no $600+ billion being wasted on spending and layabouts.  This is spending the American people have supported and spending you won't see this GOP Congress reduce by any great amount.  They won't cut it because it is mostly needed.  The claim of wasteful spending is nothing but an excuse for our large budget deficits due largely to tax relief.

If a war with North Korea does occur, and two or three hundred billion dollars is needed to fight it, the Right will not raise taxes to cover our obligation.  They will revisit Government commitments and say, "Hey, we found another $300 billion in waste.  Please use that to fight the war."  When it comes to a lack of self reliance and dependence on others to pay the way, history will show our generation and the 25+ years of significant borrowing, to be the number one example on the list.

The spending cuts will come if you were to get on board.  Sounds like you want to, why not?

Yes if war with Korea breaks your socialist utopia disappears.  It is called priorities.

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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
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keepinitreal

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Ted is open minded, causing dewy to throw up a little in his mouf

[TaxCuts]
 
"Before the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed into law, there were seven tax brackets: 10, 15, 25, 28, 33, 35, and 39.6 percent rates. The tax reform legislation cut those rates to 10, 12, 22, 24, 32, 35, and 37 percent...
 
"Cruz's bill would amend the tax code to make the individual tax cuts permanent so they would not expire."

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Bernie said they should be permanent.  It is a no brainer.
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"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
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Bernie did, he's open-minded
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Bernie is not hyperpartisan like ole dew is.
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"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
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Bernie is Oprah in drag..........
keepinitreal

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Bluedog why didn't you tell freshy to pace himself..... you're pretty good at giving unsolicited advice....now he's gone...one of the few open minded
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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#fakenews
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No way Freshie left.........There's just too many opportunities to chum around here..........I'm not buying it - Freshie wouldn't give that up...........
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Real, you should feel fortunate for the advice you get..........Me and Rudy should charge for our advice.........I guess it's just our way of giving-back - for what I don't know.........

Although, sometimes Rudy does slip-a-bit..........There's times, he's just plain old wrong.........
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#fakenews


freshy? is that you?

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Rudy, Real is right - there are times when you seem to lose-it............Your mind seems-to-wander..........Bad tamales? - I don't know...........
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