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Webfoot

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https://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/2019/01/inside-oregon-softballs-tumultuous-offseason


This article above was buried in another post.  It deserves a separate post.  Some tidbits from it:

".......Multiple sources with knowledge of the situation indicated Texas was willing to go as high as $1 million a year to hire a new coach, a figure approached only by Oklahoma’s Patty Gasso, who earns $725,000 in base salary plus a $200,000 annual retention bonus........."


So Texas may have been willing to go as high as 1 million for White.  WOW!   Is he worth it which  may have made him the highest paid softball coach in the nation.  Will he shop somewhere else to get the one million, why not?

Would a WCWS championship opened Oregons wallet?

"........According to multiple sources, White is hands-off, particularly when it comes to off-the-field matters, whereas Lombardi exerts more control and structure.

At least some players saw Lombardi as infringing on their individuality, sources said.

Among the issues at the center of contention for the players were "class checks", a common practice in college athletics regardless of sport, and "a standard for appearance" that players have interpreted as a dress code. Neither were in place under White, so for returning players it was a big shift to their daily routines and at least some were not receptive......"


Does not seem too unreasonable, class  checks? 

".......That’s it. I don’t have a checklist (of) this is what you can and cannot wear......."-Lombardi


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“Our athletes represent Oregon softball, they represent the University of Oregon," Lombardi said. "All I ask of them is that they are presentable, whether they’re going to school, whether they’re out on the field, whether they’re on an activity that may regard a class. This major dress code, I don’t know about this major dress code. I just want them to look presentable. I don’t want them to get up out of bed and roll out of bed and go to class. I want them to look presentable. That’s it. I don’t have a checklist (of) this is what you can and cannot wear.”


So, what exactly does "presentable" mean? No torn jeans? No yoga pants? What else?
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None of it matters because 4 of the 6 said they were leaving before Lombardi was hired. The rest is irrelevant eyewash.
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None of it matters bevause 4 of the 6 said they were leaving before Lombardi was hired. The rest is irrelevant eyewash.



Exactly,  If Gasso or Walton left would there be a loss.  Yes you are right.

Most high schools have attendance class checks.  The Oregon football team and womens basketball has class checks while softball did not  until this year.
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https://goducks.com/news/2019/1/15/expectations-unchanged-as-oregon-softball-team-opens-practice.aspx
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None of it matters because 4 of the 6 said they were leaving before Lombardi was hired. The rest is irrelevant eyewash.


That might be true, but if the only confirmation of that is from the OU AD, that's not exactly an unbiased source.
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So, what exactly does "presentable" mean? No torn jeans? No yoga pants? What else?


From my personal observation, and from reading her comment about "roll out of bed and go to class," she means showing up for a test in your pajamas and house shoes.  If Oregon is anything like Tennessee was when my daughter played the players are given tons of great athletic clothing to wear, that and some of their own  personal clothing gives them lots of options.  I believe the coach when she says she doesn't have a check list.  This is much to do about nothing.
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Over 25 years ago when I went to college, I took an English course from a great professor, but a guy who was pretty strict.  Class was M-W-F at like 1pm, I think.  The school I attended was on a lake, and so every Friday afternoon was beach time.  I'll never forget the first day of this professor's class, a dude walked in about 5 minutes late wearing flip-flops, swimsuit, and looking like he had just woke up.  The professor proceeded to explain that he expected students to be on time, attend every class, even on Friday, be prepared, that he expected students to wear appropriate clothes -no flip flops - etc.  I mean, the dude who walked in could have been a model for who should not take his class.

After 15 minutes of the professor speaking, the dude got up, got his stuff, and walked out of the class.  Everyone laughed.  The professor said something to the effect of, "I appreciate that young man recognizing this might not be the class for him.  Better now than later."  I kinda see this situation unfolding the same way.
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3leftturns,

Love the part at the end where they all smell the freshly printed handout.  How soon we forget!
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Last season at a Florida tournament, Oregon had to leave several student athletes behind because they were “under performing” (putting it nicely) in the class room. Could this be from lack of attendance? Who knows. But attending class is part of a student athletes obligation and if such a class check is bothersome to some, then maybe, just maybe last years academic issues may have been due to a lack of attendance. Purely speculative though.


Another of the LCD chimes in.

Of the 18 players who played in ANY games last year for Oregon, 17 played on the Florida trip. The only person with stats last year who DIDN'T was freshman Olivia Kinsey, who had 2 2/3 IP the entirety of 2018.

Several?

Keep slinging your bullsh*t in trying to besmirch these kids. All they did was get up at 5:30 every morning for weights or conditioning during schooldays and go to bed at 10 p.m. or later. And, they went to class (right after those workouts -- seems like an exceedingly uncomfortable existence to be in an 8 a.m. still sweating) in virtually identical garb to what Sydney Romero wears in her Oklahoma facilities tour video.

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It's all there in the box scores from Tallahassee

So, bullsh*t you are getting that from a parent


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It’s verifiable. So, If you are so close to the program you can verify that yourself.
Yes, it is verifiable, just as I said.

Check the box scores from Tallahassee

Don't need to be close to ANY program to eliminate your bilious spew....just need to possess a functioning brain.

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"I believe"... so now we are faith-based?

How much s*it are you going to toss on the wall?

And, further, EVEN IF it were THREE, instead of ZERO...in WHAT dictionary would that be tantamount to 'several'?

Let me take a HUGE leap and surmise you are being honest that a parent fed you that crapola...

Must be some piece-of-work freshman or transfer parent trying to lay a coat of paint

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So angry... Lol... pretty funny..


You wanna perpetuate a debasing narrative that in provable facts doesn't exist, I don't get angry on this board often, but here I am now.

If that is coming from a parent, it must be the parent of a transfer player, a freshman player, or the parent of a child of a coach
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3LT, thank you for continuing to try to be a voice of reason through all the BS and speculation being posted on the Oregon threads.
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Insult after insult. Very strange.
Go back under your rock
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the parent of a child of a coach


My brain hurts from reading this.
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It’s verifiable. So, If you are so close to the program you can verify that yourself.

3Lt's daughter started on Oregon's team last year.  Can't get any closer than that!

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3Lt's daughter started on Oregon's team last year.  Can't get any closer than that!


Man, you ruined the fun! [wink] it was quite entertaining know I'll ng 3LT's situation and seeing the rumors still flowing!

But seriously, thanks for being a light 3LT.
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I haven't been a light 3LT in 35 years, but I am working on it

Thx!

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3Lt's daughter started on Oregon's team last year.  Can't get any closer than that!

How about his nose and MW’s Bhole😜

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3leftturns

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Yeah, spazs, go run that one by Charley Hawkins .... go give him a laugh
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The (gentleman) doth protest too much, methinks.
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“Our athletes represent Oregon softball, they represent the University of Oregon," Lombardi said. "All I ask of them is that they are presentable, whether they’re going to school, whether they’re out on the field, whether they’re on an activity that may regard a class. This major dress code, I don’t know about this major dress code. I just want them to look presentable. I don’t want them to get up out of bed and roll out of bed and go to class. I want them to look presentable.That’s it. I don’t have a checklist (of) this is what you can and cannot wear.”


<< So, what exactly does "presentable" mean? No torn jeans? No yoga pants? What else? >> (Kurosawa)


Kurosawa - It was right there in black and white...  directly from coach Lombardi's mouth:  "I do not have a checklist of this is what you can and cannot wear."

The amount of baloney that has been directed at ML over this stuff...  has been truly amazing.
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“Our athletes represent Oregon softball, they represent the University of Oregon," Lombardi said. "All I ask of them is that they are presentable, whether they’re going to school, whether they’re out on the field, whether they’re on an activity that may regard a class. This major dress code, I don’t know about this major dress code. I just want them to look presentable. I don’t want them to get up out of bed and roll out of bed and go to class. I want them to look presentable.That’s it. I don’t have a checklist (of) this is what you can and cannot wear.”


<< So, what exactly does "presentable" mean? No torn jeans? No yoga pants? What else? >> (Kurosawa)


Kurosawa - It was right there in black and white...  directly from coach Lombardi's mouth:  "I do not have a checklist of this is what you can and cannot wear."

The amount of baloney that has been directed at ML over this stuff...  has been truly amazing.


I actually expected better from Kurosawa.
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According to Mullens, four players indicated they intended to transfer from Oregon before Lombardi was hired on July 9.


So, Burke, Elish, Iokopo, and Rhodes. (Unless he's including Madi Bishop in that number.)

And yet, all four were on the roster for fall ball. Were they denied permission to contact White?

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I actually expected better from Kurosawa.


I just thought it was interesting that she felt the need to repeat "presentable" three times. For me, at least, this does beg the question of what, in her mind, is and is not "presentable", beyond, that is, just the "rolling out of bed" thing. Do you honestly think players didn't press her for specifics?

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I just thought it was interesting that she felt the need to repeat "presentable" three times. For me, at least, this does beg the question of what, in her mind, is and is not "presentable", beyond, that is, just the "rolling out of bed" thing. Do you honestly think players didn't press her for specifics?




Anything that is Husky attire is not considered presentable.  [biggrin]


BTW, Ted Bundy was a Husky
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Keep slinging your bullsh*t in trying to besmirch these kids. 



You keep slinging yours being anti-OU :-p
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