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Oatmealsmoke

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With the Texas job filled, Oregon now becomes the biggest open seat on the carousel.

A talented roster (presuming no major transfers), top facilities, and the ability to spend should make it an attractive job. What direction will they go?

EDIT: Chelsea Spencer named interim HC, but would doubt she gets a look for the head job.
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That likely answers my other question which was if White was going to bring Spencer along to TX. Apparently not.
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Glasco?
Kenny G?
Deifel with those pitchers?

Too bad Allister jumped a year early.

Ericksen?
Lawson?
Rocha?
Blake Miller? Lolllllll
SECFan04

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Definitely not Ericksen and Glasco


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Local paper in Oregon is reporting that the athletic director was not interested in redoing White's deal or paying anything above his current contract to keep him. I wonder how that news will be received by potential replacements. I am surprised by the lack of financial commitment for a program that just spent big to build a new stadium and training facility.
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Definitely not Ericksen and Glasco




Since I'm lazy and now just a casual observer, what is the NCAA policy on transfers? Are players allowed to follow a coach in a case such as this? I'm not suggesting they will specifically as a result of the move in this case, but is it permissible per NCAA for players to leave and not be penalized?
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Local paper in Oregon is reporting that the athletic director was not interested in redoing White's deal or paying anything above his current contract to keep him. I wonder how that news will be received by potential replacements. I am surprised by the lack of financial commitment for a program that just spent big to build a new stadium and training facility.


Didn’t they just redo his deal and build him one of the best facilities in the country??? I don’t call that a lack of financial commitment.
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Oatmealsmoke, White just signed a pretty good deal. I don't blame the AD. A contract is a contract. The AD can go out and find somebody that can't win the NCAA just like White couldn't
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Local paper in Oregon is reporting that the athletic director was not interested in redoing White's deal or paying anything above his current contract to keep him. I wonder how that news will be received by potential replacements. I am surprised by the lack of financial commitment for a program that just spent big to build a new stadium and training facility.


From what I can find, his latest contract from 2015 was for six years at $237,500 per year.
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Didn’t they just redo his deal and build him one of the best facilities in the country??? I don’t call that a lack of financial commitment.


I believe that was kinda the point, Coach. Having just recently signed him to a new multi-year contract and building that great new stadium, the administration probably shouldn't be blamed for not wanting to renegotiate another new deal.
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237000 is chicken scratch for 5 elite eights and two final fours in the past 7 years.

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Lawson practically lives there in the postseason... might as well make it a full time gig for herself
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Lawson practically lives there in the postseason... might as well make it a full time gig for herself


If she can be successful recruiting there, Lawson could field elite teams up in Eugene annually 

She can coach
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Lawson is a solid recruiter and will give the UCLA staff just as many fits as MW did, in regards to recruiting.
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That's a swift kick to the gonads for Oregon, did not see White leaving.  Maybe Oregon's location is a hindrance.  
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Unfortunately for the Ducks, the right man for the job took one on the other coast. The irony of that potential hire might have appealed to both parties.

Best of luck to Spencer in however it turns out.

 


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Lawson is a solid recruiter and will give the UCLA staff just as many fits as MW did, in regards to recruiting.


Agreed, it be easier I imagine to sell Oregon and the facilities/school than it would Kentucky. 

Only issue with Oregon is it isn't the hosted sport in terms of talent but White managed for sure. So the out of state pick ups need to be hits instead of misses more than not


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Lawson practically lives there in the postseason... might as well make it a full time gig for herself
what does this mean?
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what does this mean?



Its a joke. Kentucky has been sent to Oregon the last two years in post season from super regional draws

Saying Lawson is always there
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Lol...ok
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Lets see almost a million a year, not bad and that is most likely the primary reason.

White was asked to tone it down (the demeanor some of you have mentioned) a couple of years ago and connect better with the players but I doubt that was a reason  because there was a change in his presentation. His biggest albatross was never being able to produce anything at the WCWS.

Btw, Lawson is leading prospect for Oregon.  Oregon AD and womens AD has Kentucky ties. Oregon will be fine.
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White leaving is going to be the best thing to happen to Oregon softball.  That's my prediction.  I think there was a "can't get it done" stigma associated with him alone.
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Whites comments.

https://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2018/06/mike_white_leaving_oregon_duck.html
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White leaving is going to be the best thing to happen to Oregon softball.  That's my prediction.  I think there was a "can't get it done" stigma associated with him alone.


Excellent post. He was starting to get that stigma.  As we all know in the college sports world that can be hard to shake.  We all could probably give good examples in college football too. 
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If they can get Lawson from Kentucky, I think that would be an excellent choice.
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Excellent post. He was starting to get that stigma.  As we all know in the college sports world that can be hard to shake.  We all could probably give good examples in college football too. 

It's not like he's Mike Martin of FSU baseball with 40 years of failing. 9 years of taking a cellar dweller to a powerhouse but not getting a title is nothing anyone should attach a stigma to. 
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It's not like he's Mike Martin of FSU baseball with 40 years of failing. 9 years of taking a cellar dweller to a powerhouse but not getting a title is nothing anyone should attach a stigma to. 


Agreed...but then again the difference between old money and nouveau riche might have been the subconscious underlying factor in White leaving.
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Excellent post. He was starting to get that stigma.  As we all know in the college sports world that can be hard to shake.  We all could probably give good examples in college football too. 


If there was a stigma, it wasn't that he was falling short at the World Series. More so in his demeanor and treatment of players at times.

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I still believe that Mike White is the Chip Kelly of the softball world. He would get you a ton of regular season wins, break win records, huge offensive production, win conference titles every year but at the end of the day he could not win the big one. He would choke every year in the WCWS!
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If they can get Lawson from Kentucky, I think that would be an excellent choice.


This is from an article in 2016 when Lawson signed her latest extension:

Lawson’s salary will escalate $10,000 each year of the contract, starting at $210,000 per year in 2016-17 and ending at $250,000 per year in 2020-21, with a total value of $1,150,000.

That means Lawson will make $230K this coming year - almost exactly what White was being paid.  If they refused to up his salary, why would they give her a significant raise?  Wouldn't she need a big raise to leave the SEC and what she has built in Lexington?  Why not just keep him - unless there's a Jimbo Fisher element to this (using other openings to repeatedly renegotiate, some underlying tensions built up, etc.)?

I would not be shocked to see her leave, but I would be shocked if she left for a small raise.  UK has financially committed to her and the program, so it's not like she's been left wanting at UK.
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