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Justin's interview with Committee Head

JWOS: Proverbially speaking, were there any "points deducted" for the late-season scheduling change that played a role in making Missouri actually even eligible for the tournament?
Shock: It was a non-factor. All that we looked at was what they had done on the field, because that's what we are charged to do.

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Justin's interview with Committee Head

JWOS: Proverbially speaking, were there any "points deducted" for the late-season scheduling change that played a role in making Missouri actually even eligible for the tournament?
Shock: It was a non-factor. All that we looked at was what they had done on the field, because that's what we are charged to do.


Then you were charged too much.
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Lotief used to cancel games with lesser mid-majors at the end of the year all the time to keep his RPI up. He'd state it had to do with academic reasons for his athletes having to miss too much class. Of course, he knew that when he scheduled them, but the RPI becomes clearer as the season winds down. Now, they didn't add easy wins like Missouri did, but things like that happen all the time.
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Exactly.

Missouri catching the brunt of this is odd
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Exactly.

Missouri catching the brunt of this is odd


Honestly, I think what Missouri did was unique though.  Teams add games toward the end of the year all the time to make up for rainouts earlier in the season.  That is pretty standard.  Sometimes teams cancel games toward the end of the season, though I think this is less common.  

The fact that Missouri combined both concepts is what has lead to the backlash.  They cancelled on one team, then brought in a replacement team who was much less competitive than the original team.  This is unique. 

It is like they said "Wichita State, we are afraid you might beat us, so we are going to go find a team that we know we can beat and play them instead."

And left out of the conversation is the effect this had on Wichita State.  From what I read, their coach seemed disappointed that the games didn't get played, though she stopped short of openly criticizing Missouri.  The Wichita kids missed out on home games vs. a Power 5 school, which they rarely get,  and the program missed out on 2 games that could have improved their strength of schedule and RPI, along with a chance of competing against an NCAA-caliber team late in the season. All because Missouri was trying to cover their hind end.

But this horse has been beaten to death a few times now.
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Agree that the horse is long dead.  Will only add that some of us (okay, maybe just me) are new to college softball but have followed other sports for decades, and schedule tampering is a shockingly foreign concept.  
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Agree that the horse is long dead.  Will only add that some of us (okay, maybe just me) are new to college softball but have followed other sports for decades, and schedule tampering is a shockingly foreign concept.  


+1

I think it is more unfair to Wichita State than anything else. I feel it is a real BS move on their part. If you need to schedule more wins fine but to eliminate games from someones home schedule is just wrong. 

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Lol..... Wichita tanks their game against oklahoma and we are feeling bad for THEM?
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Lol..... Wichita tanks their game against oklahoma and we are feeling bad for THEM?


I don't think WSU came to Norman with the purpose of playing the Washington Generals to the Sooners' Globetrotters.

Their coach made the ghastly decision to remove the starting pitcher who'd been handcuffing OU most of the game to bring in someone else who did poorly.

Then again, maybe WSU's coach is an OU mole...

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With the intent of getting mizzou as a stool pigeon 2 at norman???

LOFL

Kidding...kidding
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Simple solution: Consider any games not on the original schedule, other than conference tournament games and replays of cancelled/delayed games (due to weather, etc.) to be exhibition games.
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<< It is like they said "Wichita State, we are afraid you might beat us, so we are going to go find a team that we know we can beat and play them instead." >> (LSUsoftballfan)


It's not "like" that... 

It is exactly that.
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<< Simple solution: Consider any games not on the original schedule, other than conference tournament games and replays of cancelled/delayed games (due to weather, etc.) to be exhibition games. >> (Kurosawa)


Boy... that would put an end to any of this late season schedule fiddlin'.
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JWOS: Proverbially speaking, were there any "points deducted" for the late-season scheduling change that played a role in making Missouri actually even eligible for the tournament?
Shock: It was a non-factor. All that we looked at was what they had done on the field, because that's what we are charged to do.
 



I think the committee may have "positioned" Missouri in the Norman regional - as a penalty for their late season schedule switcheroo BS.
OK... we will put you in - but you will be in Oklahoma's region.  Enjoy.

I actually will not be surprised at all... if Tulsa beats Missouri. 
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Assuming Oklahoma doesn't play its regional like last year, yes
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Lol..... Wichita tanks their game against oklahoma and we are feeling bad for THEM?


Maybe I’m just dense.....why would WSU take a dive?
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Maybe I’m just dense.....why would WSU take a dive?


No reason. It's generally people without character that would think they did.

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Terrell you are a sanctimonious F. And you hid like a little beatch when loteif when down in flames.
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Terrell you are a sanctimonious F. And you hid like a little beatch when loteif when down in flames.
Sanctimonious.... one of this language's finest words.

And sublimely applied in this case

And, F ain't so bad either
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Maybe I’m just dense.....why would WSU take a dive?



Serious question Lefty.  What would be her motivation for that?
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Make sure she gets invited back? She knew that -- win-or-lose -- she is in the tournament as a No. 2 or 3. But the result would affect her host potentially

Suffice to say, though, there are all sorts of motivations for things that actually occur that can't be guessed.

And, it is possible that it simply was an idiotic decision -- contemporaneously known, as we blew up the Oklahoma thread the second she pulled this -- not just hindsight 20/20.

Mostly, I would like for her to have been grilled about it.

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Make sure she gets invited back? She knew that -- win-or-lose -- she is in the tournament as a No. 2 or 3. But the result would affect her host potentially

Suffice to say, though, there are all sorts of motivations for things that actually occur that can't be guessed.

And, it is possible that it simply was an idiotic decision -- contemporaneously known, as we blew up the Oklahoma thread the second she pulled this -- not just hindsight 20/20.

Mostly, I would like for her to have been grilled about it.



Agreed, win or lose simply playing OU gave her the pure RPI benefit she wanted.  But I would think the impact of a win over OU (theoretically) would be more beneficial in bonus points and the eyes of the committee come seeding time, not to mention the career boost...… especially in comparison to the career  / decision making hit she took for making the pitching change. 
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I hear that, Chin.

I guess, it just drives me crazy not reading/hearing her account for herself after that.
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If It wasn't Missouri it would be some other team losing.... the team isn't the problem.

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I hear that, Chin.

I guess, it just drives me crazy not reading/hearing her account for herself after that.


The press apparently was absent on that point that day. I would have liked to have heard the coach's explanation, too.

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The press apparently was absent on that point that day. I would have liked to have heard the coach's explanation, too.


I remember a Super Bowl a couple of years ago...…...
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Yeah, Carroll let Belichick off the hook for some of the worst clock management anyone has ever seen by not running Lynch
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But.....um.... those get asked the questions
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Terrell you are a sanctimonious F. And you hid like a little beatch when loteif when down in flames.


Love you too...what was your name again?

Where was I hiding? I was posting threads on this board in October, November and December.

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Duaine. 
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