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44murph44

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Smith has his axe sharpened. How many of the 22 he started with will be left to deal with his BS next fall? I say 7 is the magic number.


I don't know what's more disturbing. The coaches reputation or you posting this picture. These are 18-22 year old girls. Is this picture meant for humor or are you excited about it? You're predicting of the original 22 players there will only be 7 returning players from this squad. You will find out soon enough.
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"To deal with his BS next Fall?"   Ole Miss had the best season in school history, which in regards to the other SEC teams was not very good.  This program has been bad for a long time.  The roster is not an SEC roster.  Not sure what some of you people think, but this is not travel ball or HS ball.  This is College athletics.  Coach Smith was not brought in to make the girls feel good.  He was brought in to do a job.   Part of that job is to win ball games.  Not only did he do a great job with a very ave talented club, he did it with parents and players against him!  How do you improve the team, eliminate the problems.   Can he be tough sometimes, absolutely!  What is wrong with that? 
It is funny how parents think they know something about coaching on the college level.  What those guys do on a daily basis, is very difficult. 
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"To deal with his BS next Fall?"   Ole Miss had the best season in school history, which in regards to the other SEC teams was not very good.  This program has been bad for a long time.  The roster is not an SEC roster.  Not sure what some of you people think, but this is not travel ball or HS ball.  This is College athletics.  Coach Smith was not brought in to make the girls feel good.  He was brought in to do a job.   Part of that job is to win ball games.  Not only did he do a great job with a very ave talented club, he did it with parents and players against him!  How do you improve the team, eliminate the problems.   Can he be tough sometimes, absolutely!  What is wrong with that? 
It is funny how parents think they know something about coaching on the college level.  What those guys do on a daily basis, is very difficult. 


By what do you base your comment that this roster is not a SEC roster? What do you know about the coaching of this team?
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"To deal with his BS next Fall?"   Ole Miss had the best season in school history, which in regards to the other SEC teams was not very good.  This program has been bad for a long time.  The roster is not an SEC roster.  Not sure what some of you people think, but this is not travel ball or HS ball.  This is College athletics.  Coach Smith was not brought in to make the girls feel good.  He was brought in to do a job.   Part of that job is to win ball games.  Not only did he do a great job with a very ave talented club, he did it with parents and players against him!  How do you improve the team, eliminate the problems.   Can he be tough sometimes, absolutely!  What is wrong with that? 
It is funny how parents think they know something about coaching on the college level.  What those guys do on a daily basis, is very difficult. 
By what do you base your comment that this roster is not a SEC roster? What do you know about the coaching of this team?
I heard that coach Thees brought the recruits she had at Memphis down to Ole miss. With that being said, Coach Smith was using players recruited to play for a Memphis team, NOT an SEC team.
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That was 3 years ago and I believe it was 3 kids. One of which was the second leading hitter on the team in SEC play and the other the pitcher with 5 of the 6 SEC wins. Probably a good thing they came down from Memphis huh?
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Ok if it was 3 years ago that means that the junior class down would be her recruits. How exactly did the past three seasons go? not very good I'm guessing. And the one recruit Coach Smith brought in led the team in HR.
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Ok if it was 3 years ago that means that the junior class down would be her recruits. How exactly did the past three seasons go? not very good I'm guessing. And the one recruit Coach Smith brought in led the team in HR.


Don't get your panties in a wad, not defending the former coach but the two kids that she brought from Memphis were two of her better recruits. And without them there isn't anyone talking about Greatest season in Ole Miss history.

You wrote: " I heard that coach Thees brought the recruits she had at Memphis down to Ole miss. With that being said, Coach Smith was using players recruited to play for a Memphis team, NOT an SEC team."

You implied that the entire team was made up of kids that were going to Memphis, and that is simply not true. The senior class and the freshman and sophomore classes were recruited to an SEC school. Smith had 3 classes full of kids that were recruited to Ole Miss.

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When I say that this is not an SEC roster.....all you have to do is compare the caliber of athletes on this team compared to the rest of the SEC.  Not implying the full roster, but a big difference in the level of the kids.  He took this team, with very little pitching and won 30 games with them. 
He did a great job! 

All I am saying, is people are all over this coaching staff.  This is a solid staff, that is trying to build a program.  Recruiting will be tough because of the early recruiting going on, so this will take some time to put together. 

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Ok if it was 3 years ago that means that the junior class down would be her recruits. How exactly did the past three seasons go? not very good I'm guessing. And the one recruit Coach Smith brought in led the team in HR.
Don't get your panties in a wad, not defending the former coach but the two kids that she brought from Memphis were two of her better recruits. And without them there isn't anyone talking about Greatest season in Ole Miss history. You wrote: " I heard that coach Thees brought the recruits she had at Memphis down to Ole miss. With that being said, Coach Smith was using players recruited to play for a Memphis team, NOT an SEC team." You implied that the entire team was made up of kids that were going to Memphis, and that is simply not true. The senior class and the freshman and sophomore classes were recruited to an SEC school. Smith had 3 classes full of kids that were recruited to Ole Miss.
Who were those 2 kids you are speaking of?
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When I say that this is not an SEC roster.....all you have to do is compare the caliber of athletes on this team compared to the rest of the SEC.  Not implying the full roster, but a big difference in the level of the kids.  He took this team, with very little pitching and won 30 games with them. 
He did a great job! 

All I am saying, is people are all over this coaching staff.  This is a solid staff, that is trying to build a program.  Recruiting will be tough because of the early recruiting going on, so this will take some time to put together. 



I have no issues with you point of view jfossil. The previous 2 coaches not being good talent evaluators or not being good coaches or not having the ability to get better players to commit to Ole Miss is what it is. The other poster insinuated that the entire roster was made up of former Memphis commits.

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When I say that this is not an SEC roster.....all you have to do is compare the caliber of athletes on this team compared to the rest of the SEC.  Not implying the full roster, but a big difference in the level of the kids.  He took this team, with very little pitching and won 30 games with them. 
He did a great job! 

All I am saying, is people are all over this coaching staff.  This is a solid staff, that is trying to build a program.  Recruiting will be tough because of the early recruiting going on, so this will take some time to put together. 

I have no issues with you point of view jfossil. The previous 2 coaches not being good talent evaluators or not being good coaches or not having the ability to get better players to commit to Ole Miss is what it is. The other poster insinuated that the entire roster was made up of former Memphis commits.
That is nothing of what I implied. I said that the players on the team are from her recruiting classes except for the senior class. She brought some of her recruits from Memphis. And the people she recruited to Ole Miss were better, but still not able to fully compete in the SEC. The record of the previous years speaks for itself.
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What do you know about the current players? Thees had a better record at memphis than Missie had at Ole Miss. Where else were Missie's two senior recruits offered? All the current players were on Thees' radar when she was at Memphis. You recruit out many years. How many current players have over a .300 record? Smith had an agenda to get his recruits to Oxford. There's talent on that team.
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I guess we'll see what happens at Ole Miss in the years to come. Someone mentioned Smith's recruit led in HR, great. She had a mediocre average and certainly didn't get the flack that his non-recruits got. And she was a McNeese State recruit, not SEC...

Nearly a third of his wins were credited to a pitcher he chased away early in the season. He and his staff are a bunch of clowns that probably just finished their best season at Ole Miss.

I feel sorry for the incoming group that will be subject to this controlling , abusive, ego-maniac.
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Is what you hear about the coaches true? or just other BS rumors
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I guess we'll see what happens at Ole Miss in the years to come. Someone mentioned Smith's recruit led in HR, great. She had a mediocre average and certainly didn't get the flack that his non-recruits got. And she was a McNeese State recruit, not SEC...

Nearly a third of his wins were credited to a pitcher he chased away early in the season. He and his staff are a bunch of clowns that probably just finished their best season at Ole Miss.

I feel sorry for the incoming group that will be subject to this controlling , abusive, ego-maniac.


The girl that led the team in HRs was not a McNeese State recruit. She was one of the many that decided to not play at Texas Tech when the coaching staff changed. So, still not SEC, but your facts are wrong.

I also believe you are very wrong about this being this staff's best year. If they could do what they did with the talent that was there, they will do much better as their recruits start filtering in. I know you're the disgruntled parent of a kid who quit on her team in the middle of the season but if these guys are the big ego-maniacs that you say they are, you just feed into it by giving them all the attention you do.

This is the time that any of the current players that you say hate playing for him can leave if they want to. Of course, we won't know how many leave or get cut until next year's roster comes out or more disgruntled parents come on here to vent.
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It's apparent Maddogsdad is one of the two stud players from the Memphis recruit. It's a shame you have to put your daughters teammates down to build your kid up.

Where a kid chooses to go play ball is personal to them. You don't know where their other offers to play where so how do you know their talent. If you look at the records that the Ole Miss team broke this year itt proves Thees recruited some talented girls. She recruited all but three players on that team.

Texas Tech or McNeese State still isn't SEC. Her stats are online for you to view as are Thees recruits. I believe it was Thees recruit that made the all freshman team this year. You posters come on here putting down Thees recruits yet Smith was recruiting his players from McNeese State that are coming in next year. Why not wait to see how they do before you make a comparison? And did I hear an announcer say Smuth was recruiting Allison Brown at the NAIA school he coached. Even the announcer laughed at that one.

bucketman made a great point about a third of the wins came from the pitcher that quit. Thees won 7 SEC games her first season. They praised her that season for turning the program around. She had a Memphis pitcher pitch a perfect game and that pitcher upset Florida last year. Time will tell what he does with this program.
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It's apparent Maddogsdad is one of the two stud players from the Memphis recruit. It's a shame you have to put your daughters teammates down to build your kid up.

Where a kid chooses to go play ball is personal to them. You don't know where their other offers to play where so how do you know their talent. If you look at the records that the Ole Miss team broke this year itt proves Thees recruited some talented girls. She recruited all but three players on that team.

Texas Tech or McNeese State still isn't SEC. Her stats are online for you to view as are Thees recruits. I believe it was Thees recruit that made the all freshman team this year. You posters come on here putting down Thees recruits yet Smith was recruiting his players from McNeese State that are coming in next year. Why not wait to see how they do before you make a comparison? And did I hear an announcer say Smuth was recruiting Allison Brown at the NAIA school he coached. Even the announcer laughed at that one.

bucketman made a great point about a third of the wins came from the pitcher that quit. Thees won 7 SEC games her first season. They praised her that season for turning the program around. She had a Memphis pitcher pitch a perfect game and that pitcher upset Florida last year. Time will tell what he does with this program.


I can promise you that neither of my daughters played or play for Ole Miss.


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If you aren't than how do you know this to be true. Who are these two studs you're talking about that without them they wouldn't have this historic season?
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I guess we'll see what happens at Ole Miss in the years to come. Someone mentioned Smith's recruit led in HR, great. She had a mediocre average and certainly didn't get the flack that his non-recruits got. And she was a McNeese State recruit, not SEC...

Nearly a third of his wins were credited to a pitcher he chased away early in the season. He and his staff are a bunch of clowns that probably just finished their best season at Ole Miss.

I feel sorry for the incoming group that will be subject to this controlling , abusive, ego-maniac.
The girl that led the team in HRs was not a McNeese State recruit. She was one of the many that decided to not play at Texas Tech when the coaching staff changed. So, still not SEC, but your facts are wrong. I also believe you are very wrong about this being this staff's best year. If they could do what they did with the talent that was there, they will do much better as their recruits start filtering in. I know you're the disgruntled parent of a kid who quit on her team in the middle of the season but if these guys are the big ego-maniacs that you say they are, you just feed into it by giving them all the attention you do. This is the time that any of the current players that you say hate playing for him can leave if they want to. Of course, we won't know how many leave or get cut until next year's roster comes out or more disgruntled parents come on here to vent.


RELAX- And your grasp of the facts leads me to believe you are a coach or a wannabe. Good luck with your incoming class and pushing as many Thees recruits out. The girls have their own reasons for staying or leaving if they are given the choice. I feel bad for them either way. If you are one of the abusive coaches at Ole Miss...shame on you for your behavior.
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If you aren't than how do you know this to be true. Who are these two studs you're talking about that without them they wouldn't have this historic season?


You clearly have a reading comprehension issue. I never called them studs. I said one was the team's second leading hitter in conference play and the other won 5 of the 6 conference games, so a monkey with a laptop could figure out who the two players are.

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No dad I don't have a comprehension problem but there you go again having to put me down to make yourself look better. It's apparent who Maddogsdad is.
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Nope, you couldn't pay me enough to be a coach of any sport at any level. I'm just an old man that had nothing better to do during the SEC tournament weather delays than play around on my computer and do a little research. It's not that hard to find all this stuff out.

I can't wait to see what happens next season!! Ole Miss will definitely be on my watch list.
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Pretty sure Thees brought more than two kids with her. She had 6 or 7 kids in the '12 class that she recruited while at Memphis and left the cupboard bare when she left.
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You are all @*%$^!& nuts. You talk about these kids like they're meat. Which is actually pretty sad knowing that most of you are parents besides the "old man" RELAX up there. Some of these kids were recruited by Thees to do a job that Smith thinks that either they can't do or that he can find someone to do it better. Here's a newsflash sunshine, he's the d@mn coach now. Critique all you like but deal with the fact that your opinion means nothing. Try this, get behind your freaking girls and support them. Quit spending so much time on the net crying.
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Drop_Balls-

News flash...The players are meat. And the assistant coaches are meat. The head coach is meat. Training staff, grounds crew (non-union), SIDs, ticket takers, concessioners, etc...MEAT! (Well, maybe those better referred to as pasta.)

And while the Athletic Directors think of themselves as Master Chefs, in reality, nothing more than meat.

Would love to see my kid get back into coaching. Y'all aren't helping. [mad]

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Slim pickings for the vegetarians.
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spazsdad- To paraphrase myself, "I was born here, didn't move for the cuisine." [tongue]
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You are all @*%$^!& nuts. You talk about these kids like they're meat. Which is actually pretty sad knowing that most of you are parents besides the "old man" RELAX up there. Some of these kids were recruited by Thees to do a job that Smith thinks that either they can't do or that he can find someone to do it better. Here's a newsflash sunshine, he's the d@mn coach now. Critique all you like but deal with the fact that your opinion means nothing. Try this, get behind your freaking girls and support them. Quit spending so much time on the net crying.
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You sound like you and relax are the same person. This is the ugly side of college softball or college sports. Teams do great. Coach is great. If you question coaching your a hater or a disgruntled parent or your kid sucks. I hope for the girls sake it's not as bad as it looks. Coaches have the opportunity to make good players into great lets hope they take this team to the next level. I'm not sure if they're still on the bubble for the tournament but I hope they get there soon.
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Judging by some of the player's tweets to him, it isn't all hate for Coach Smith and his staff. I'm going to guess it's your typical new coach, new program situation. Some like him. Some hate him.
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