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spazsdad

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At least one person does.
TylerDurden

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And it's the only one that matters
bucketman

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So back to the Ole Miss program...

Coach Smith has no staff? Or has he hired an assistant, pitching coach and Ops mgr to help rule and abuse his dwindling number of returners and growing number of oblivious new recruits?

In my humble opinion, the AD should be penalized for hiring Smith and all the red flags generated during the year.
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Bucket man back again to bash ole miss, it's coaches, players and recruits. I don't understand why people have to bash recruits and players. Does that make you feel better? What strikes me the most is the word "abuse". That's a strong word to throw around.
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Bucket man back again to bash ole miss, it's coaches, players and recruits. I don't understand why people have to bash recruits and players. Does that make you feel better? What strikes me the most is the word "abuse". That's a strong word to throw around.


I said nothing to bash Ole Miss or any players or recruits except that the new ones aren't yet aware of what Smith is all about. I truly wish all current and future players at Ole Miss the best. Just to clarify what you obviously misread...and yes, now I feel better! Maybe you should comprehend before you reply Clem.

Abuse is a strong word and I stand by it. Smith shouldn't be coaching and from what I observed over last season, I witnessed at minimum, verbal abuse.
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Originally Posted by Clemons Bucket man back again to bash ole miss, it's coaches, players and recruits. I don't understand why people have to bash recruits and players. Does that make you feel better? What strikes me the most is the word "abuse". That's a strong word to throw around.
I said nothing to bash Ole Miss or any players or recruits except that the new ones aren't yet aware of what Smith is all about. I truly wish all current and future players at Ole Miss the best. Just to clarify what you obviously misread...and yes, now I feel better! Maybe you should comprehend before you reply Clem.

Abuse is a strong word and I stand by it. Smith shouldn't be coaching and from what I observed over last season, I witnessed at minimum, verbal abuse.

Abuse?  Or, possibly kids and/or parents with a very soft and entitled mentality?  To be clear, I don't know any of the players or parents at Ole Miss.  But, I do know that in this current day and age that there are many examples of the later and the parents for sure in many cases aren't hesitant to characterize either their kids or their own mental weakness and lack of investment as abuse from the coaches.  Just saying and I'm not excusing abuse when and if it occurs.  If so, that is the job and role of the athletic administration to address.  I don't think many AD's are going to tolerate abuse if it's known it is occuring.  However, hard coaching doesn't ALWAYS equate to abuse.  That's a novel idea to some folks today. 
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Don't know Smith from a hole in the wall. I heard complaints included practice time overages and being overly harsh (verbally). Frankly, I don't know many D1 coaches who don't fit that description. If it's your first D1 experience, I can see how it would be jarring and feel unfair, but those things certainly aren't unusual. The first time that happened to me as a player, I and my parents thought it must've been a situation that was only occurring at that school. After having been around the game and many many programs for years now, sadly, it's just flat out common. Not saying it's right, but common.
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Coach Smith is a great coach and knows how to get the best out of his players. People sometimes don't understand coach and that sometimes players overreact to certain situations. The ole miss softball program is working its way to the top.
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It would probably be ok if it was a female coach. After all they are the only ones qualified to coach softball.
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TerpAlum: not a lot of fitness needed on the softball field? You have now gone beyond your usual sexist, naive rants and moved straight into sheer stupidity.
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Coach Smith is a great coach and knows how to get the best out of his players. People sometimes don't understand coach and that sometimes players overreact to certain situations. The ole miss softball program is working its way to the top.


BAHAHAH [rofl][rofl] You must be a relative of Smith!! Maybe threats and humiliation work for some, I doubt it is considered great coaching by anyone.

I previously mentioned the abuse I witnessed but it went far beyond that. I won't get into specifics as Ole Miss compliance and AD are aware of those and chose to retain their recent hire anyway.

Smith is a total hypocrite who will do anything to look good to the AD, recruits and press. What he does on the practice field and behind closed doors is another thing. His assistants and a number of players didn't want another year with him so we will see how next season will go. I doubt they will be at the top of the SEC anytime soon.
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Again here we go with "abuse". Don't you think that if there was abuse on campus the administration would have done something? It's 2015, not 1980. The media would kill OM if there was abuse on campus. Heads would ROLL!!! Your hated towards the coaches is undeniable and petty. It makes me want to vomit and I don't even know the guy.
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Uh, they are not a successful team, so what does that say......
Fitness in softball?! Are you kidding? You are the one who is naive. Why do you think we are softball players... the bases are 60 feet and the field is within 225. We love big HR hitters, at least I did, and I could care less if she could run or dead lift.

Fitness may be something the kids do to get noticed for recruiting and stand out then, but come on.
Try soccer or something for fitness. It is used in softball to get on the kids during the off-season when they can't practice. So they go to the gym or make them run and yell at them (or have the football [sarcasm] trainer do the yelling for them.) Perhaps they need heat (or cold[smile]) acclimitization, to throw 200 pitches standing in one place, but that is about it.

PS. Some of the best players we had were the worst on the agility tests.


I think you are showing why no one looks to you for information regarding high levels of softball.
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The university has completely failed the girls on the softball team by hiring smith. Unfortunately the same thing that happened this past year will happen again this year. It will probably be worse, because they won't win as many games and smith will only increase his mental abuse. The funny thing is smith reads this board and tells parents that he has mellowed with age. Clem you're clueless about the situation at Ole Miss. Smith is so pompous it wouldn't surprise me if he was posting on this board as Cash.
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Last I checked, not really a lot of fitness or power lifting (do that next rep go- da-- it! One more lap you idiot losers!) needed on the softball field.



Old school idiotic thinking on your part, as usual.......guess you should check out Alabama's softball S&C instagram, where there is plenty of power lifting going on: https://instagram.com/builtbybama_sb/

Power lifting is crucial to baseball/softball......you saw how steroids changed the game of baseball.....those guys weren't just doing bicep curls.  Squats, deadlifts, power cleans will improve anyone's power #'s within a year.
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Why does everyone insist they are going to have a worse year this year? They only lost one starter from last year, unless you can tell me a bunch of the starters quit.
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Why does everyone insist they are going to have a worse year this year? They only lost one starter from last year, unless you can tell me a bunch of the starters quit.


Down to one returning pitcher, and do any of the pitching recruits seem exciting?
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Again they do that stuff, powerlifting, etc. to stay on the kids because they can't practice in the off season. I never said they don't do it. They just don't need to, and the girls end up injured. It is really misguided stuff. The off-season training needs to mimic softball skills, not what the football team does.

What I can tell is that not many of you know squat about what the teams are doing. I visit teams every year at practice, and I have students and family on college teams.

Kids are quitting softball or being forced to because they are overworked, yelled at, and have no time for academics. So grades start slipping, and academics are the real reason they are in school. But who cares, there is another transfer class coming in. 

But it is a hard way to coach.


PS> We were in the gym plenty, doing a routine for softball, just no one was there yelling at us  and making us perform deadlifts just to create pain (or going over practice limits), so if we had schoolwork we could go do it.


Good grief.



Hopefully the AD at Maryland consulted with you on the hiring of the new coach....said every other coach in the Big 10
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Originally Posted by cash
Coach Smith is a great coach and knows how to get the best out of his players. People sometimes don't understand coach and that sometimes players overreact to certain situations. The ole miss softball program is working its way to the top.


BAHAHAH [rofl][rofl] You must be a relative of Smith!! Maybe threats and humiliation work for some, I doubt it is considered great coaching by anyone.

I previously mentioned the abuse I witnessed but it went far beyond that. I won't get into specifics as Ole Miss compliance and AD are aware of those and chose to retain their recent hire anyway.

Smith is a total hypocrite who will do anything to look good to the AD, recruits and press. What he does on the practice field and behind closed doors is another thing. His assistants and a number of players didn't want another year with him so we will see how next season will go. I doubt they will be at the top of the SEC anytime soon.


Hope you and your princess darling daughter enjoy Florida.
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Again they do that stuff, powerlifting, etc. to stay on the kids because they can't practice in the off season. I never said they don't do it. They just don't need to, and the girls end up injured. It is really misguided stuff. The off-season training needs to mimic softball skills, not what the football team does.

What I can tell is that not many of you know squat about what the teams are doing. I visit teams every year at practice, and I have students and family on college teams.

Kids are quitting softball or being forced to because they are overworked, yelled at, and have no time for academics. So grades start slipping, and academics are the real reason they are in school. But who cares, there is another transfer class coming in. 

But it is a hard way to coach.


PS> We were in the gym plenty, doing a routine for softball, just no one was there yelling at us  and making us perform deadlifts just to create pain (or going over practice limits), so if we had schoolwork we could go do it.


Good grief.




Every time I read a twerpalum comment, I enter the twilight zone...or perhaps a clockwork orange.



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Again they do that stuff, powerlifting, etc. to stay on the kids because they can't practice in the off season. I never said they don't do it. They just don't need to, and the girls end up injured. It is really misguided stuff. The off-season training needs to mimic softball skills, not what the football team does.

What I can tell is that not many of you know squat about what the teams are doing. I visit teams every year at practice, and I have students and family on college teams.

Kids are quitting softball or being forced to because they are overworked, yelled at, and have no time for academics. So grades start slipping, and academics are the real reason they are in school. But who cares, there is another transfer class coming in. 

But it is a hard way to coach.


PS> We were in the gym plenty, doing a routine for softball, just no one was there yelling at us  and making us perform deadlifts just to create pain (or going over practice limits), so if we had schoolwork we could go do it.


Good grief.



Crazy.....crazy.....crazy!!!!
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I'm pretty sure Terp has the UltimateCollegeSoftball board confused with the ClubCollegeSoftball board. Seriously, it sounds like Terp is describing intramural softball instead of highly competitive Division 1 softball. Either that or she played before female athletes were allowed in the weight room. Times change as do methods. Today's athlete trains vastly differently than athletes even 10 years ago. To say It's wrong without really knowing how things are today. Weight training and conditioning are a big part of successful teams. See the article about Michigan attributing their success this year to the work they did in the weight room. In addition to getting stronger and faster, the weight room and extreme workouts are also great team builders as the entire group has to work together to overcome great obstacles and adversity, just as they do during the season and in games. Are there bad ways some programs and coaches go about it, sure but to make blanket statements that it's not necessary because we didn't do it in my time ridiculous.

And I can't believe I just took this much time out of my life to respond to a moron like Terp
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The university has completely failed the girls on the softball team by hiring smith. Unfortunately the same thing that happened this past year will happen again this year. It will probably be worse, because they won't win as many games and smith will only increase his mental abuse. The funny thing is smith reads this board and tells parents that he has mellowed with age. Clem you're clueless about the situation at Ole Miss. Smith is so pompous it wouldn't surprise me if he was posting on this board as Cash.


Im not clueless. I know enough about sports to know that (as bucket man states) "abuse" isnt happening in oxford, ms. I admit I dont know smith or his staff, nor do I know his team. I just think its comical smith gets attacked more than any coach on this board. he was hired to do a job, and that job is to win. if your DD was a casualty of college athletics, get in line. it happens in every sport and i dont hear anyone else complaining!
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TerpAlum

You don't like male coaches
You don't like lifting in offseason or anytime
You don't like conditioning anytime

You don't like much
You don't like hard work
You don't like winning (because I don't remember the last time Maryland won)
You don't like people
You don't like reality
You don't like life

You do like let's all get a trophy for participation at the end of the season .

Please leave and start your own board.
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In all my years of training athletes (football, basketball, soccer, softball, etc), I have only used why they're there as the motivator.  P Diddy wouldn't have thrown a kettlebell at me, nor would I be "coaching" on the Biggest Loser.  The results of all this hard work, pertaining to softball:  increased velocity/decreased arm fatigue, increased hr production, increased sb/decreased cs, reduction in playing injuries, and much more.  This was done with time to spare on the NCAA Clock.  Still plenty of time to be students and most liked hitting the books after weights because they were more focused. .02$
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Again they do that stuff, powerlifting, etc. to stay on the kids because they can't practice in the off season. I never said they don't do it. They just don't need to, and the girls end up injured. It is really misguided stuff. The off-season training needs to mimic softball skills, not what the football team does.

What I can tell is that not many of you know squat about what the teams are doing. I visit teams every year at practice, and I have students and family on college teams.

Kids are quitting softball or being forced to because they are overworked, yelled at, and have no time for academics. So grades start slipping, and academics are the real reason they are in school. But who cares, there is another transfer class coming in. 

But it is a hard way to coach.


PS> We were in the gym plenty, doing a routine for softball, just no one was there yelling at us  and making us perform deadlifts just to create pain (or going over practice limits), so if we had schoolwork we could go do it.


Good grief.



Please enlighten us in the routines you would prefer these kids to be performing. I would love to have all the insight you have in offseason training. If there wasn't a benefit in certain powerlifts then they would not be performed by ALL of the top tier teams in the country. I got my rubberbands, gonna go get in a quick 10 minute workout so I'll be ready for next season.
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Now is this 10 minutes in a row, or will the workouts be broken up over the offseason? Need to plan my next championship team workout!  Also, will regular rubber bands work?  I have a whole bunch from Staples.

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Now is this 10 minutes in a row, or will the workouts be broken up over the offseason? Need to plan my next championship team workout!  Also, will regular rubber bands work?  I have a whole bunch from Staples.



I like getting it done in 10-1 minute sessions, completing all before Christmas break. That way all the soreness is gone before the season gets started in February. No need to overwork the poor kids.
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Excellent OKTG...I know this is most likely the dumbest question ever posed on this board, but - does each 1 min session include warm-up and cool-down or is that asking too much?  Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.
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Excellent OKTG...I know this is most likely the dumbest question ever posed on this board, but - does each 1 min session include warm-up and cool-down or is that asking too much?  Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.


It's common knowledge. 15 seconds warm up, 30 seconds of solid gettin it and 15 seconds of cool down. Really there is no need for anymore than that.[wink]
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