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mikec

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mikestrodamus


quoting it here for you before uwa claims it. [wink]
uwApoligist

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a far left liberal, as you describe, wasn't getting 61 Senate votes.  It wasn't getting 51 Senate votes. 



It would likely have been 51.  Clinton would have found a judge that looked middle left enough, that republicans would have confirmed.   Once the refuse to confirm a middle left, there would be a good chance round 2 would be pretty far left.

Key issues would have been gone left, gun control in particular.   

There is an 86% chance that Trump will get to appoint 2 justices.  That is a big swing in the court.


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quoting it here for you before uwa claims it. [wink]

mikestradomus he can have it.   It's got no flow.
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mikestradomus he can have it.   It's got no flow.


fits me then - I got no flow
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Get your prostate checked STAT
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hehe
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Trumps locker room talk did not bother me much.  I have heard way worse from friends at the bar.  Only part that bothered me most was he should have been smart enough to know the smarmy reporter would have the tape rolling.  

Clintons actual actions seemed a lot worse, to me.  

Run the country well do a good job, help us grow jobs, and we will be fine. 



I don't have an issue with that not being important to you.  But, with two daughters, it struck a nerve with me.

Yes, Clinton is a rapist and much worse, in my opinion. I never voted for him and did vote for his opponent.
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I don't have an issue with that not being important to you.  But, with two daughters, it struck a nerve with me.

Yes, Clinton is a rapist and much worse, in my opinion. I never voted for him and did vote for his opponent.

Yeah, it came down to either or.  Could not let murdering rapist Clintons in for another 8 years.  Our country would be gone.
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We have a policy covered by years of precedent that is covered by NLRB case law and it's a policy called 'shop talk'. I work in an industry dominated by males.

Shop talk and locker room talk are one and the same, basically the English language with an edge. If one chooses to be offended, they can find a way to be offended

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mikec

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So, today's recap:

- Spicer, in desperation yesterday, quotes Napolitano saying UK did it, and provided info to Obama
- UK wigs out, and denies the above
- UK is assured Spicer will not repeat the above
- FOX says they have no info supporting Napolitano's comments
- Trump is asked, and he says "ask Napolitano - he said, not us"

What a cluster.

The amateur hour just rolls on.  Expect KellyAnne to have some nuggets over the weekend on this.
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LOL - will those nuggets be in the microwave?
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Sounds like he took a page from the dem playbook. Like whe Dingy Harry said he heard Romney didn't pay taxes. When asked who he heard it from he said,"ask Romney why he didn't pay taxes, not who my source is". The difference is the obedient press moved on to Romney as told.
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difference being that reid didn't accuse the former POTUS of espionage and other crimes - serious stuff.

why no one cares is beyond me.  I guess trump and the circus around him (most of the people are not part of the sideshow, but a few, like spicer and Conway, totally are) can do about anything he wants, and FOX news will defend him, and the nobody who claims to be a GOP cares.


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Sounds like he took a page from the dem playbook. Like whe Dingy Harry said he heard Romney didn't pay taxes. When asked who he heard it from he said,"ask Romney why he didn't pay taxes, not who my source is". The difference is the obedient press moved on to Romney as told.
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We will see where the congressional investigation goes.  If there even is one.

Did they ever investigate the 3-5 million illegal voters?

#smokescreenforlowinfos
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Trump could shoot someone on 5th Avenue [if they are a terrorist] and I wouldn't care, hilLIARy's not POTUS and never will be
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Mike said.........
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The amateur hour just rolls on.  Expect KellyAnne to have some nuggets over the weekend on this.


I'm so glad the Bush Republicans, such as Mike, got put on the sidelines............They were killing our country..........

We got ya'll out just in time.........[smile]
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Napolitano attributed the story to 3 anonymous sources, which goes back to my post about planting fake news.

- FTR, Nap's story is UK accessed NSA's intercepts, not that they wiretapped Trump.

- OTOH, everyone's intel orgs try to gather info on other countries' viable candidates to prepare in case they win. The real issue is the leaking/weaponization of that info.

- Reports came out that Obama purposely disseminated supporting info for Intel Report so it couldn't be buried. IMO that's a cover story for them facilitating it to be leaked. 

- Obama made NSA data accessible to more people and that probably led to Flynn's calls w/ Russian ambassador being leaked.

Note: Maddow displayed her ignorance Thur with some whoppers about FISA.
- She claimed FISA won't authorize taps on US persons. Truth is it's just harder due to higher requirements.
- She claimed NSA can't capture communications w/ US persons. Truth is they're required to mask/protect the identity of the US person.

- Nunes said they are investigating how Flynn was unmasked and anyone else that has been unmasked.

- The claims about "Trump Tower" may be problematic since there are a lot of other tenants in the building. I wouldn't be surprised if there are foreign nationals being monitored that are otherwise unrelated to the Trump org/campaign.
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The claims are way more specific.  It seems to be electronic surveillance of a specific Trump organization server.  One that was doing banking transactions with foreign banks (Russia).   So i do not think he can go with Trump Tower out.

Reality is that the FISA court warrants are probably all the proof that is needed.  They show the denial of the broad sweeping request.  Then show the acceptance of the specific computer surveillance request.

The McCain wing of the republican party is sounding older and cookier than ever. 



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I miss #teammccain - please bring that back.
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I miss #teammccain - please bring that back.

Dole, Bush, McCain, Boehner, McConnell, Romney, 
Sleepy, lost, old, drunk, cecil the turtle, dog 

What is not to miss. muh Russia!, muh WMD!, muh gays!,

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If Conservatives were willing to go the same great lengths to substantiate Obama saying you can keep your plan and your doctor, as they're willing to go to substantiate everything President Trump says, they would have found Obama's clear explanation here.  Me thinks there is a double standard at play.
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Who are you Gollum?
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The claims are way more specific.  It seems to be electronic surveillance of a specific Trump organization server.  One that was doing banking transactions with foreign banks (Russia).   So i do not think he can go with Trump Tower out.

The server was reportedly in PA, not in Trump Tower, and was just for marketing emails. There's been no reported communications between the servers, just thousands of DNS look-ups of a Trump email domain by a Russian bank. The company operating the server lost Trump's business months earlier, so it's questionable they still had an email host running for the Trump domain. 
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politics/fbi-investigation-continues-into-odd-computer-link-between-russian-bank-and-trump-organization/

Trump's claims were more specific. My point is reported questions and requests to intel orgs have not been that specific and could therefore be problematic for them to answer across the board. 
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If Conservatives were willing to go the same great lengths to substantiate Obama saying you can keep your plan and your doctor, as they're willing to go to substantiate everything President Trump says, they would have found Obama's clear explanation here.  Me thinks there is a double standard at play.


Lie told day 1 front page above the fold.

Lie discovered.

Clarification offered day 14 page 10.

No double standard.  Obama got called out for telling a lie and was simply backtracking.  Me thinks you will say anything to defend one of the worst presidents in history.
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project dragnet
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project dragnet


Roger that.

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Some will never believe.  Started under Bush, partly uncovered by Snowden, that American hero

http://vesselnews.io/report-nsas-project-dragnet-proves-surveillance-donald-trump-family/

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Some will never believe.  Started under Bush, partly uncovered by Snowden, that American hero

http://vesselnews.io/report-nsas-project-dragnet-proves-surveillance-donald-trump-family/

Some so called constitutionalists.  Apparently constitutionalist except the 4th amendment, and Bush's IC. 

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "
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Rand Paul: "Everybody admits that somebody spied on Mike Flynn, and he was part of the Trump campaign," Paul said. "It sounds like what the president said has already been proven to be true."
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Rand Paul: "Everybody admits that somebody spied on Mike Flynn, and he was part of the Trump campaign," Paul said. "It sounds like what the president said has already been proven to be true."


It didn't take a bevy of young reporters to uncover that fact

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