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Will_I_Wynn

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Read the stats.  Premiums for those getting insurance at work are rising slower than back in the day.  Part of the reason we passed healthcare reform.  It was time to slow the out of control rising costs of healthcare in the US.
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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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Duaine have you written the LA Times recently, let me know when you do, I love reading your rants
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mikec

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
Read the stats.  Premiums for those getting insurance at work are rising slower than back in the day.  Part of the reason we passed healthcare reform.  It was time to slow the out of control rising costs of healthcare in the US.


This must be a joke. My premiums went up 50%, from 1600/mo to 2400/mo. That's 10k per yr post tax. It is killing me.

There are only 3 of us on this plan.
Will_I_Wynn

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When study says employer based health insurance premiums rose an average of 3%, it doesn't mean each and every employer.  This is the average according to the annual survey. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/health/health-insurance-premiums-employer.html

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


uwApoligist

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Can't read it is behind a pay wall.

Trust me that is shill information.  Everyone knows what their premiums did.  They went up 40% here in the state of WA.  Our deductables went up to $10k.  Making the policy completely worthless.

Meanwhile non working layabout gets to go to doctor for free, gets a free ride in a shiny red and white ambulance, probably even turn the lights and sirens on for him.  

Tell me how that is fair dew?

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spazsdad

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Well that’s how you get you 3% average growth. Your 40% increase is offset by others getting a check to go to the Dr.
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uwApoligist

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"Idaho looks to be first state to drive stake through heart of ObamaCare"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/27/one-state-pursues-end-obamacare-setting-stage-for-new-fight.html

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"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
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pabar61

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Dewey - explain this to me.  My CPA just finished my taxes.  I will state up front that I made a lot of money last year.

Having said that, I am being taxed $12,407 to help fund Obamacare.  That is a direct quote from my CPA.

In what world, other than a socialist society, are my hard-earned dollars confiscated from me to pay for a program with which I completely disagree?

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mikec

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1st - congrats on the good year
2nd - sorry about the tax situation, and most of all
3rd - glad to see you blow back in here



Quote:
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Dewey - explain this to me.  My CPA just finished my taxes.  I will state up front that I made a lot of money last year.

Having said that, I am being taxed $12,407 to help fund Obamacare.  That is a direct quote from my CPA.

In what world, other than a socialist society, are my hard-earned dollars confiscated from me to pay for a program with which I completely disagree?
pabar61

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Thanks Mike.  I realize that I am Blessed and I am grateful.  More importantly, I understand the need to pay my fair share of taxes.

But the idea that I have to pay over $12K for Obamacare subsidization angers me as much as if it had been identified for Planned Parenthood or the PLO.

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mikec

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Originally Posted by pabar61
Thanks Mike.  I realize that I am Blessed and I am grateful.  More importantly, I understand the need to pay my fair share of taxes.

But the idea that I have to pay over $12K for Obamacare subsidization angers me as much as if it had been identified for Planned Parenthood or the PLO.


totally agree. just so folks who don't feel like working can get a plan for free.

my premiums this year are $2600/mo, plus more increased deductibles for meds and services.  thankfully for me, our company is FINALLY moving to an employee sponsored plan, so that should bring me back to reality.

though not a tax per se, my premiums are in effect a tax also, so others can freeload.

#thanksobama
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