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keepinitreal

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Originally Posted by uwApoligist
With a average $3000 year premium and $5000 deductible it is not $8000 before you can even see a doctor.  But, yeah, you have healthcare.  

Paying for drug addicts and porch sitters to have premium healthcare never made sense.  Odummercare proved it again. 


This is when we really need dewy to do some splainin' for us.  Perhaps that dietwatereddown coke can take a stab.  She always disliked employer provided healthcare

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I have a stand alone policy for my college graduated kid. This January the premium doubled for a healthy 22 yr old.
uwApoligist

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30% is super optimistic, and assumes CSR payments are as expected.  It is going to be more like 40% bump in prices.   Even with CSR payments in place.  Even at those rates, you will still have additional markets have no carriers and many more going to only 1 carrier. 

Single payor, no cost control here we come. 

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The Obama IRS lied to us??? Say it aint so.........


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/3/obamas-irs-misled-obamacare-customers-audit/



The Obama administration “misled” Americans into thinking signing up for Obamacare would be cheaper than it really was, according to an inspector general’s report Thursday that said the IRS dramatically understated the actual cost of enrolling.

IRS officials sent the letters to try to prod Americans to comply with the 2010 health law’s “individual mandate” that penalizes them for not holding coverage.

But as part of the letters, the IRS said most people could find plans for $75 a month or less once government subsidies were figured in.

 

That was untrue — in fact, the average cost was more than twice that figure, at $168 a month, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration said.

“Many of the nearly 7.5 million taxpayers who receive letters and seek insurance may feel misled if the actual cost of their insurance is much higher than the $75 per month detailed in their notification letter,” the inspector general concluded.

The IRS said it was only using numbers provided by Department of Health and Human Services and verified by the Treasury Department. They said the $75 figure was true for some taxpayers.


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keepinitreal

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sounds very dewyesque
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TheNarrator

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One of the main reasons he left - he knew OCare was going to devolve into this. Didn't have the "chest" to stick around.
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