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thefastpitchschool1

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Which Professional Softball League do you believe is stronger?

Who has the highest level of play? The most top players?

Which league is stronger financially/organizationally and why?

So much to learn from these two organizations!

I am interested to see the American perspective.

And the International Perspective.

Any thoughts and or interest?
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Which Professional Softball League do you believe is stronger?

Who has the highest level of play? The most top players?

Which league is stronger financially/organizationally and why?

So much to learn from these two organizations!

I am interested to see the American perspective.

And the International Perspective.

Any thoughts and or interest?

Well since we can't watch any of the games in the Japan league or even follow them I don't think many of us can answer these questions honestly. From what I have seen on the few highlight videos posted on Youtube of the Japan league it's defenitly different. I don't know how much comparing we can really do of the these two. The Japan league is better established and have the added fortune of being sponsored by huge companies. Obviously the Japan league is financially way better off then the NPF. The NPF will never have the luxury of being sponsored by companies like Toyota. It's just isn't going to happen. As far as your other questions I haven't actually seen these ladies play, so I really don't know how they compare to the NPF. I wish they would show some of the Japan games on the internet. I would love to watch them but that isn't going to happen either. So at this point I am an NPF fan and a fan of the girls from over here that play over there!

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the question is -- how did the Japanese league get its funding from major industrial companies in Japan?  Is it possible that the same could happen in the U.S.?  Is there any connection in Japan between the sponsors of Japanese Baseball and Japanese Softball?


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It has been a few years since I played men's fastpitch, but I remember playing against teams that were sponsored by companies.  I know that some of the players actually worked for the company in addition to playing softball during the season.  As far as I know, the players were not earning a salary for playing, of course, I don't know what jobs they were performing for the sponsor companies either. 


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Which Professional Softball League do you believe is stronger?

JPL is stronger. Well established, several league levels with the top level "A" having 12 teams and allowing 2 foregin players each. Michelle smith played in japan league as did several others. Angela tincher is playing ther now as well as usa. Wider variety of competiton up and down th 12 teams compared to 3 teams in NPF and 1 ragtag team.

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Who has the highest level of play? The most top players?


level of play is equal but japan has a better well-rounded league that does not look like just a all-star game over and over. NPF has more of the top players since usa and canada top players play in NPF (although crammed into just 4 teams they have the most stars). Lots of stars in NPF.
 

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Which league is stronger financially/organizationally and why?
 
Japan leaguie is sponsored and can afford several leagues within the league.
It is also organized better and long running. NPF changes ownership often and has trouble getting non-softball sponsors as it is not seen as profitable for advertisers.
Japan league pays way better. NPF has a cap of 100,000 per team. NPF needs to get where JPL is.  NPF sells the stars...JPL sells the sport.

I have seen both in person. Been to japan several times (the joys of military life as a kid and then as an adult and of course sports) and of course seen NPF games and pondered investing in a team with some friends. Maybe some of us here can get together and buy a NPF team.
 
But it is almost impossible to answer if you have not seen japan league and got to know the players. Ask a japanese fan that like many of us in america grew up watching players from college to pro and know them all. They know all the japanese players and we just know the super super stars. Same with them. They know the super super star americans but not the college kids and up and coming stars. I asked a group months ago when I was in japan. Jennie finch, michelle smith, jessica mendoza...then 1 answered monica abbott. All but monica have been announcers and were faces of usa softball. Monica is superstar (1 also knew cat but didnt remember her last name).
 
As I said...good question but hard to answer for most. Simular to asking someone in texas who follows texas high school football "which is better- texas high school football or florida high school football?" The texan never played high school ball in florida, never seen high school games in florida in person or tv, doesn't know any of the school rivalries, doesn't know the schools, up and coming players, competition, etc. They know texas high school football.

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I personally believe that the NPF could find corporate sponsorship.

Maybe a Fast Food Supported League? McDonald's vs. Jack in the Box could be fun!

Many Superstars of International Softball play in the JPL.

Yukiko Ueno, Eri Yamada, Stacey Porter, Li Qi, Lu Wei, Justine Smethurst and I think more.

Two Canadians play in the NPF. Danielle Lawrie and Jennifer Salling.

Many star Americans play in the NPF and the JPL.

Natasha Watley, Monica Abbott, Catherine Osterman, Megan Willis, Lauren Lappin and maybe a few more I missed.

I wish the NPF would bring in some more foreign players not from North America.

Cheri Kempf has done a wonderful job with the NPF.

I support both leagues.

Fun question to think about!

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I personally believe that the NPF could find corporate sponsorship.

Maybe a Fast Food Supported League? McDonald's vs. Jack in the Box could be fun!

Many Superstars of International Softball play in the JPL.

Yukiko Ueno, Eri Yamada, Stacey Porter, Li Qi, Lu Wei, Justine Smethurst and I think more.

Two Canadians play in the NPF. Danielle Lawrie and Jennifer Salling

Many star Americans play in the NPF and the JPL.

Natasha Watley, Monica Abbott, Catherine Osterman, Megan Willis, Lauren Lappin and maybe a few more I missed.

I wish the NPF would bring in some more foreign players not from North America.

Cheri Kempf has done a wonderful job with the NPF.

I support both leagues.

Fun question to think about!

Actually 3 canadians play in the NPF. Caitlin Lever is also canadian. It would be nice to see more international players in the NPF but at this point it's not likely. It isn't likely those players are going to want to fly across the world to play in a still developing small league and get paid next to nothing. Our girls go to Japan because it's worth their time. They get the experience and get to play the game they love but they also get to make some money. Until the NPF is established enough to pay their players a little better you won't see many international players I don't think.

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The salaries in Florida were very good....
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The salaries in Florida were very good....

And yes. I am sorry i forgot about CL.

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The salaries in Florida were very good....

And yes. I am sorry i forgot about CL.

According to the NPF website the average players makes $5,000-$6,000 a season. For someone who is going across the world, leaving their family and friends, and the culture they know that isn't very much. There are a couple who make more than that but most of these ladies make very little.

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Your information is different than mine.
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http://www.profastpitch.com/about/faqs/

That is where I got my information.
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