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TheNarrator

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Deserves a new thread.

While mocked at the time, GWB "Axis of Evil" was spot on.  Kind of like Romney on Russia.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/revisiting-the-axis-of-evil-15-years-after-george-w-bush-coined-the-term/article/2622576

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Based on Fresh's support of antifa, I expect he supports NoKo since they have "Democratic" in their name.
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Based on Fresh's support of antifa, I expect he supports NoKo since they have "Democratic" in their name.


1 time I supported antifa.
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1 time I supported antifa.

You've repeatedly supported "their cause" on a superficial basis (e.g. their name) without really looking into their entire agenda.
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You're a liar.
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You're a liar.

Typical deplorable Lib response - condemn the other side. Prove what I posted isn't true and that I knew it wasn't true.
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From Trump thread:

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It appears to me that Un has upped the ante and has decided he can march forward due to the lack of a coherent strategy. Saying we have options, threatening "we shall see" won't get us anywhere. I see a situation spiralling out of control with NO CONCRETE STRATEGY BUT BLUFF.

LMAO KJU has been marching forward since he took over in 2011. Obama totally f'd up by thinking KJU would continue his dad's strategy of using nuclear program just to extract foreign aid from western countries. Obama's "strategic patience" severely exacerbated this situation by not taking conventional action soon enough to stave this off and now it's too late for them - Obama pissed them away.

Obama-pologists are saying we have to accept NoKo as a nuclear power and contain them. What a steaming pile of crap! 

Thanks Obama!
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Un's ability to decimate S Korea with conventional arms has not changed. He didn't need a nuclear arsenal. He now has one........What's Trump going to do..................

I guess......."We'll see"    

There are no great options since Obama pissed them away. They're trying to convince NoKo that having nukes endangers their regime and China that it's in their best interest to denuclearize NoKo (e.g. sanctions, more THAAD, re-arming SoKo with nukes). Some actions go better with Trump staying on script and others go better with him being unpredictable.

What do you think Trump should do? Dazzle us with what you have thought out...
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You're a liar.

No he is not.  You think their cause is noble, their tactics are bad.

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Can you either post as Fresh or BTurd.  Crossing between the two is dumb. 
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No he is not.  You think their cause is noble, their tactics are bad.


He did say "Business was good" regarding their violence.

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Can you either post as Fresh or BTurd.  Crossing between the two is dumb. 


Is Bama_CF actually Fresh?  Lots of new evidence today.

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To me there remains many great options, despite odummers attempt to piss them all away.  

To start you can litter SoKo with missiles.  Anti missile missiles, attack missiles, nuclear missiles (the big ones).  Put a bunch in Japan as well. Loads of them.  3x what we had before the great capitulator f'd us so badly. 

We can move a permanent carrier force into the NoKo shore.

We can tax the Chinese.  They made promises and did not live up to them. 

UN is worthless as usual.  Lot's of little countries whoas-meing about how they are irrelevant.  

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Typical deplorable Lib response - condemn the other side. Prove what I posted isn't true and that I knew it wasn't true.


You've repeatedly supported "their cause" on a superficial basis (e.g. their name) without really looking into their entire agenda.

That is not true. There is literally no "entire agenda" as antifa is a loosely organized group, with factions determining their own methods. I agree with their intent to fight white supremacists, nazis, KKK and alt-right groups at every turn. I support their right to defend themselves and respond to acts of violence. I support their right to arm themselves in case the a$$holes they are protesting take up arms against them. 
I do not support them instigating violence or damaging private or public property. I don't support them barricading an area so a speaker may talk, just because they disagree.
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He did say "Business was good" regarding their violence.


As usual, misrepresenting my comment. I was using the Inglorious basterds phrase about nazis. It was humor, which you have mischaracterized. 
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To me there remains many great options, despite odummers attempt to piss them all away.  

To start you can litter SoKo with missiles.  Anti missile missiles, attack missiles, nuclear missiles (the big ones).  Put a bunch in Japan as well. Loads of them.  3x what we had before the great capitulator f'd us so badly. 

We can move a permanent carrier force into the NoKo shore.

We can tax the Chinese.  They made promises and did not live up to them. 

UN is worthless as usual.  Lot's of little countries whoas-meing about how they are irrelevant.  


All those would work well in a John Wayne movie.
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No he is not.  You think their cause is noble, their tactics are bad.


I do support their cause to resist people like you. Why do you never get as outraged when nazis beat people?
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All those would work well in a John Wayne movie.

Hmm, sounds like you're talking down to him...

Meanwhile, crickets on...
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... There is literally no "entire agenda" as antifa is a loosely organized group, with factions determining their own methods.

LMAO Group structure and methods are irrelevant to agenda, which is goal/aim oriented.

I've provided multiple sources that antifa is anarchists and communists - that is the inconvenient part of their agenda that you fail to recognize and/or address.
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I don't trust your sources. While some antifa members are probably communist leaning, it is not their stated objective to pursue a course, whereby America becomes a Communist state. I can't respond to the individual statements of every antifa member. Some are nuts.
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... I support their right to arm themselves in case the a$$holes they are protesting take up arms against them.
LMAO - the a-holes took up arms BECAUSE antifa was armed. [crazy]
 
I do not support them instigating violence or damaging private or public property. I don't support them barricading an area so a speaker may talk, just because they disagree.

Again with the wishy-washy "I do not support" instead of opposition. 

"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it."
MLK

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I don't trust your sources.

LMAO I provided CNN and VOX - are you disavowing them now? TFF
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Do you think threatening to blow up the United States mainland crosses Trump's "red line"?
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LMAO I provided CNN and VOX - are you disavowing them now? TFF


I have no idea what you are referring to.
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Meanwhile, back to the thread topic, still crickets from Fresh on...
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I have no idea what you are referring to.

That has been abundantly clear in many of your posts. I'll respond on antifa thread.
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I am not privvy to presidential briefings. He has a staff that presents him with options and yet....the situation continues to deteriorate. Here are some things I wouldn't do:
Continually criticize China who has the single most leverage over NN.
Verbally attack SK.
Alienate myself from practically every ally we have in the world. Nobody wants to help us, they will just go along if our interests coincide. His prime concern is how he looks to his pit bull base. Everything else takes a back seat. 

Now, I would definitely run around the idea of knocking the next ICBM out of the sky. It would have to be clear of populated areas. Obviously could backfire, have heard success prospects at around 50%. 
I would attempt cyber retaliation. Not familiar with what is available, but would consider no holds barred.
Maybe an embargo of Korean waters.
More sanctions. 

If attacked and the most remote possibility that Un thought he could lose his control.......Must be avoided, Seoul would be history.


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I am not privvy to presidential briefings. He has a staff that presents him with options and yet....the situation continues to deteriorate. Not privy, yet you're sure it could be going better. #arrogance

Here are some things I wouldn't do:
Continually (BS) criticize China who has the single most leverage over NN. Need to put pressure on China - they have long track record of just paying lip service. Agree room for improvement.

Verbally attack SK. BS - merely pointed out new SoKo leader changed course from campaign.

Alienate myself from practically every ally we have in the world. Nobody wants to help us, they will just go along if our interests coincide. (duh!) His prime concern is how he looks to his pit bull base. Everything else takes a back seat. (wah wah wah)

Now, I would definitely run around the idea of knocking the next ICBM out of the sky. It would have to be clear of populated areas. Obviously could backfire, have heard success prospects at around 50%. The 50% rate is including early testing - recent tests are much higher. They plan to launch multiple ABMs, so that raises it more (e.g. 2 75% missiles would be 93.75%, 3 - 98.44%, etc). 

I would attempt cyber retaliation. Not familiar with what is available, but would consider no holds barred. Foolish to expose all cyber capabilities on NoKo, especially since it all goes through China.

Maybe an embargo of Korean waters. That is a military option. You said there weren't any...

More sanctions. Too late for more sanctions on NoKo (Thanks Obama!). Need more secondary sanctions on China and others, which Trump is advocating.

If attacked and the most remote possibility that Un thought he could lose his control.......Must be avoided, Seoul would be history.

Massive casualties on both sides. If you had to choose, would you rather Seoul be leveled or NYC? San Francisco? LA? They'll be able to reach Atlanta soon...
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All those would work well in a John Wayne movie.

Capitulating and offer your arse for abuse by a black lesbian strap on wearing lesbian is what works in your world?

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I do support their cause to resist people like you. Why do you never get as outraged when nazis beat people?

Nazi's have shown up exactly one time.  They were tricked into showing up and got their arses kicked in.  They will not show up again for a very long time.  Would worry about them if they mattered.  They don't.

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