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mikec

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Funny stuff.  Especially where he says he would never need law enforcement.

He stays in that location long enough, and he'll need them.


mikec

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Interesting perspective.

I guess rocklifter's daughter, a college student in downtown ATL, might agree.  At least, up until she was pushed to the ground and kicked in the head by a black male right after the election, who yelled "you voted for trump" while he was assaulting her.


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Everyone has a differing and unique past that creates the diversity of opinions in our society. Until we stop conjuring up false motivations for those we disagree with, we will never come to terms with their reasoning. It is not hard to believe that an electrician from Texas would have a different take on society than a professor from Harvard. Does this make either wrong? Or right? Probably the truth is somewhere in between. We must listen to each.....try to understand each others points so we can understand the complex problems currently facing our society. Adding "tard" to someone's name or political affiliation adds nothing to the equation. Assuming all nationalists are racists is equally counter productive. "Walk a mile in my shoes" might be what this country currently needs far more than polarizing distortions of ideas and events. 
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Interesting perspective.

I guess rocklifter's daughter, a college student in downtown ATL, might agree.  At least, up until she was pushed to the ground and kicked in the head by a black male right after the election, who yelled "you voted for trump" while he was assaulting her.




I have found Fresh to be a lot like JoiseyGuy. Talking about other people's perspectives while clinging to their own, while standing on a pedestal. Fresh is the new JoiseyGuy and that's ok, just putting it out there. The older you get the less flexible that you become .

Actions like those against rock's daughter are the fringe and not to be included in the big picture while judging from the pedestal. There are too many instances and examples of violence against whites that is dismissed out of convenience, doesn't fit the narrative.

If they won't call out BLM and antiFa as hate groups then I won't call out the white nationalists and there we are. Keep poking the bear

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I have found Fresh to be a lot like JoiseyGuy. Talking about other people's perspectives while clinging to their own, while standing on a pedestal. Fresh is the new JoiseyGuy and that's ok, just putting it out there. The older you get the less flexible that you become . Actions like those against rock's daughter are the fringe and not to be included in the big picture while judging from the pedestal. There are too many instances and examples of violence against whites that is dismissed out of convenience, doesn't fit the narrative. If they won't call out BLM and antiFa as hate groups then I won't call out the white nationalists and there we are. Keep poking the bear



You should be in a maximum security facility for the criminally insane.  
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'Insane' is pretending you're a militant black lesbian who hammers her own daughter with tongue and strap-on. That would be bama.
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Interesting perspective.

I guess rocklifter's daughter, a college student in downtown ATL, might agree.  At least, up until she was pushed to the ground and kicked in the head by a black male right after the election, who yelled "you voted for trump" while he was assaulting her.




I know Rocklifter and his daughter played for me. My daughter went to Ga. State also and she, nor her friends, ever faced anything approaching what he described. I don't believe one word of his story. Show me a police report.

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keepinitreal

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There are too many instances and examples of violence against whites that is dismissed out of convenience, doesn't fit the narrative.

If they won't call out BLM and antiFa as hate groups then I won't call out the white nationalists and there we are. Keep poking the bear


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'Insane' is pretending you're a militant black lesbian who hammers her own daughter with tongue and strap-on. That would be bama.


It takes a special kind of stupid to describe sex acts with your daughter, in 3rd person. Yuck

Typical Bamaturd

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mikec

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I only know him through here.

Just because your daughter did not experience something does not mean his did not.  GSU is not exactly the safest part of town.

I have no reason to doubt it. 


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I know Rocklifter and his daughter played for me. My daughter went to Ga. State also and she, nor her friends, ever faced anything approaching what he described. I don't believe one word of his story. Show me a police report.
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Red team flaming team
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Figured we should resurrect another one of Dewey/Will's incorrect threads as the cake maker's case hits the Supreme Court this week.

I for one believe a business has the right to refuse their services to any customer, but that's just me.
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Figured we should resurrect another one of Dewey/Will's incorrect threads as the cake maker's case hits the Supreme Court this week.

I for one believe a business has the right to refuse their services to any customer, but that's just me.

Put a pro Trump or a Pro Life shrit on and go to a coffee shop in Seattle.  Plus they will say extremely vile things to you.  This is apparently allowed. 





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I went back to page one of this thread to refresh my memory on the topic.

These posts from Dewey didn't hold up very well. At all. [rofl]



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pabar - Let's just say the GOP is reaching out trying to find more votes.  I think it's safe to say they just lost some.


Dewey 

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I think it was EG who said he hoped the GOP wouldn't shoot itself in the foot over some social issue.  I think it just happened.


Dewey 

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pabar - I'm sure the Democrats can anger voters at times.  But the Blue Wall has held up for six consecutive elections and it would take a huge misstep to turn these red, imo.  As for 2014, the Blue Wall still held strong and we lost in red States.  It wasn't an Obama thing from my perspective.
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I would change my name too
keepinitreal

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Dewy has so many posts that were more than wrong, they were lies. There are thousands of nuggets out there and I think he has been deleting some on some of the threads. I have recognized that many have actually disappeared because there are gaps in conversations from 2015 and 2016, then he reinvents himself in 2017. Good catch FIB
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What we said the whole time. Once again dewey was on the wrong end.......


http://www.bakersfield.com/news/judge-david-lampe-rules-for-tastries-bakery-owner-cathy-miller/article_9116d628-0b55-11e8-9eb5-1fe904759af0.html


“A wedding cake is not just a cake in a Free Speech analysis. It is an artistic expression by the person making it that is to be used traditionally as a centerpiece in the celebration of a marriage,” Lampe wrote. “There could not be a greater form of expressive conduct. Here, Rodriguez—Del Rios plan to engage in speech. They plan a celebration to declare the validity of their marital union and their enduring love for one another. The State asks this court to compel Miller against her will and religion to allow her artistic expression in celebration of marriage to be co-opted to promote the message desired by same-sex marital partners, and with which Miller disagrees.”

But Lampe wrote that his ruling was tied closely to the fact that Miller was being asked to create a cake for an event.

And he cautioned that religion does not give businesses a right to refuse service to groups protected by the Unruh Act in other circumstances.

“A retail tire shop may not refuse to sell a tire because the owner does not want to sell tires to same sex couples. There is nothing sacred or expressive about a tire. No artist, having placed their work for public sale, may refuse to sell for an unlawful discriminatory purpose. No baker may place their wares in a public display case, open their shop, and then refuse to sell because of race, religion, gender, or gender identification,” Lampe wrote.

His distinction, he said, is between the act of selling a product to a same-sex couple and creating a product for the same couple.

 

“The difference here is that the cake in question is not yet baked,” Lampe wrote. “The State is not petitioning the court to order defendants to sell a cake. The State asks this court to compel Miller to use her talents to design and create a cake she has not yet conceived with the knowledge that her work will be displayed in celebration of a marital union her religion forbids. For this court to force such compliance would do violence to the essentials of Free Speech guaranteed under the First Amendment.”



 


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Nice! Artistic expression is a privilege to be bought and sold, not a right to be demanded
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What we said the whole time. Once again dewey was on the wrong end.......


http://www.bakersfield.com/news/judge-david-lampe-rules-for-tastries-bakery-owner-cathy-miller/article_9116d628-0b55-11e8-9eb5-1fe904759af0.html


“A wedding cake is not just a cake in a Free Speech analysis. It is an artistic expression by the person making it that is to be used traditionally as a centerpiece in the celebration of a marriage,” Lampe wrote. “There could not be a greater form of expressive conduct. Here, Rodriguez—Del Rios plan to engage in speech. They plan a celebration to declare the validity of their marital union and their enduring love for one another. The State asks this court to compel Miller against her will and religion to allow her artistic expression in celebration of marriage to be co-opted to promote the message desired by same-sex marital partners, and with which Miller disagrees.”

But Lampe wrote that his ruling was tied closely to the fact that Miller was being asked to create a cake for an event.

And he cautioned that religion does not give businesses a right to refuse service to groups protected by the Unruh Act in other circumstances.

“A retail tire shop may not refuse to sell a tire because the owner does not want to sell tires to same sex couples. There is nothing sacred or expressive about a tire. No artist, having placed their work for public sale, may refuse to sell for an unlawful discriminatory purpose. No baker may place their wares in a public display case, open their shop, and then refuse to sell because of race, religion, gender, or gender identification,” Lampe wrote.

His distinction, he said, is between the act of selling a product to a same-sex couple and creating a product for the same couple.

 

“The difference here is that the cake in question is not yet baked,” Lampe wrote. “The State is not petitioning the court to order defendants to sell a cake. The State asks this court to compel Miller to use her talents to design and create a cake she has not yet conceived with the knowledge that her work will be displayed in celebration of a marital union her religion forbids. For this court to force such compliance would do violence to the essentials of Free Speech guaranteed under the First Amendment.”



 



Finally Duaine is speechless

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