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Will_I_Wynn

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The statements are not unlike.  One admitted pundits and politicians stating Hillary was too sick to serve were simply continuing a narrative and were not examples of fake news.  It was their opinion.  They were not serving as journalists.  However, if a journalist wrote an article stating Hillary had a serious illness that would make serving difficult, that would have been fake news assuming no illness had been discovered.
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Worst propaganda over last decade...

1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

TheNarrator

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He evaluated him and said he was fit to serve.

Truth hurts on this one. Talking points led you astray.
Fresh

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Physically, there was no psychiatric evaluation. If you can find evidence of one, please enlighten us.
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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
uwApoligist

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I'm saying he did no evaluation and mysteriously left out his heart condition. That's what I'm saying. He doesn't want to be swabbing decks in some sh1thouse harbor somewhere.

Everyone is reporting Trump did cognitive test and passed with flying colors.

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Fresh

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Everyone? Pablum and graycie and oowwaa? News man, news source. I have many reports he is not stable. Most people never have to tell people they are stable and possess genius when they actually do. Your everybody knows it. I suggest nobody knows it.
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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
TheNarrator

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Physically, there was no psychiatric evaluation. If you can find evidence of one, please enlighten us.


Doctor said he wasn’t fit to serve. Case closed.

Unless an army physician that also examined President obama is in on your tfh theories and talking points.

Your argument is with the army - dems are good at that.
uwApoligist

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/28/donald-trump-cognitive-test-journalists-moca


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TheNarrator

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Blitzkrieg
spazsdad

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Let’s take note that even the title of this thread by Dewey is a lie. Why does he lie all the time
Will_I_Wynn

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The Right is pushing an agenda the MSM is lying to the public because they think there is a bias in the MSM.  The Right is free to believe in such a bias, as is their right, but they are being deliberately misleading in suggesting the public is being fed "MSM news" known to be inaccurate.


Please post the next example of a news article (not commentary or editorial) which includes facts known to be false and we'll kick it around.

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Worst propaganda over last decade...

1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

spazsdad

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Translated from deep in the rabbit hole
I have seen multiple posts describing in detail examples of the MSM being caught red handed telling lies, fake news, but I choose to ignore them all and I will also ignore any more that are posted after this point because it doesn’t fitmy narrative. Just lie Fresh ignoring any website that is not left wing
TheNarrator

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Dewey begging for interaction - drink on a Sunday.
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Translated from deep in the rabbit hole I have seen multiple posts describing in detail examples of the MSM being caught red handed telling lies, fake news, but I choose to ignore them all and I will also ignore any more that are posted after this point because it doesn’t fitmy narrative. Just lie Fresh ignoring any website that is not left wing


You don't have 1 example of a major news source telling a lie. 1 example was the Time reporter tweeting about the MLK bust. It wasn't a news story, he tweeted it and after finding it was in error, immediately rescinded it. There might be misinformation or shoddy, lazy reporting, but the writers were punished. In order for a story to be a lie, the outlet must know it's untrue before running the story. You got nothing on this count. You guys show maybe 10 examples(most open to speculation) and act like there is some sort of conspiracy. Ah, conspiracy, the life blood of fringe conservatives. You really have nothing. Definitely no proof. 

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
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What they want you to believe:

It's bad when the Right questions the fitness of a Democrat, but totally legit when the Left attacks Trump. I said this when? And conservatives question the fitness, but progressives attack trump. Try to be a little more objective.

What they also want you to believe:

They're not raging hypocrites. [rofl]  Look in the mirror.


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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
keepinitreal

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this thread really gained traction today

straws grasping

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Shut up doofus. Not talking to you. 
 
spazsdad

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And right in cue Pop n Fresh responds with your links and sources are not acceptable in my world. What a freakin predictable troll
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Once again, the whole “Muslim Ban” was fake news spun up by MSM and the left.
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Once again, the whole “Muslim Ban” was fake news spun up by MSM and the left.


Not according to Giuliani. Asked to write a "legally worded" Muslim ban. Substituted dangerous for Muslim. Big whoop. trump's words, not mine. Then, as usual, tries to lie his way out. Works on you, not on me.

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
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News is not some guy's opinion when they have political agendas to push.  How can you not understand this?  Well, that is simple enough because you are brainwashed.  

Did you see all of the LSM pushing the Obama is a Muslim agenda as if it were fact?  Heck no because that is an opinion held by some without proof.  Of course, you can't see the validity of this comparison.  




Let's establish what "fake news" is. Originally it was a story that was a lie or a fabrication, presented as fact. Are you saying any biased story that doesn't show both sides is "fake news"? Is Fox "fake news"? Hannity?

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
keepinitreal

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If you lie but then retract a lie, it's still a lie, liar
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Shut up doofus. Not talking to you. 
 
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Let's establish what "fake news" is. Originally it was a story that was a lie or a fabrication, presented as fact. Are you saying any biased story that doesn't show both sides is "fake news"? Is Fox "fake news"? Hannity?



Hannity is political commentary, no different then Maddow or Lemon.


Sorry your blind hatred won't let you see the difference

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Hannity is presented as punditry.  CNN is saying what they are doing is actual news.  Big difference.
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Hannity is political commentary, no different then Maddow or Lemon.


Sorry your blind hatred won't let you see the difference


How about Fox? You conveniently jumped to Hannity. I agree with most of your assessment, by the way. Cable news is populated to a great degree by entertainment programming, aimed at a particular audience. I watch CNN to feel good. The talking heads say things I agree with. The CNN pure news is timely and will beat print news(NY Times, WSJ, LA Times, Washington Post, etc.) to it's audience. When reported, I always check the sensational against other news sources, especially WSJ. I don't rely on Facebook or Twitter, like some here. We all have sources we rely on since we can't be there to witness every activity. Thus, the differences of opinion. It's just how it is. 

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
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Hannity is presented as punditry.  CNN is saying what they are doing is actual news.  Big difference.


Wrong. Their talking heads are expressing opinion. They have pure news also, but it is easily differentiated. You just want to criticize, they are no different than the other cable news sources.

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
uwApoligist

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I only watch the news segments.  They are mostly opinion as well.   The crying reporter announcing the Oprah run collapsed on day 2 was a news segment.

Fox has shepard smith constantly gleefully rolling out anti-trump 'news'.  Most other fox news guys shoot it pretty straight.  Hannity, Carlson, etc. are clearly opinion/pundit  shows.



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None of them have real news - maybe when covering a breaking story, but other than that it is all opinion.
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I only watch the news segments.  They are mostly opinion as well.   The crying reporter announcing the Oprah run collapsed on day 2 was a news segment.

Fox has shepard smith constantly gleefully rolling out anti-trump 'news'.  Most other fox news guys shoot it pretty straight.  Hannity, Carlson, etc. are clearly opinion/pundit  shows.




And this differs with CNN how? Although, I think CNN has more pure news than Fox. Read signature for explanation.

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
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Wow!  My thoughts on this have been crystal clear.  In fact, I have posted often on this site that I don't care for Hannity.  He is not news but rather, opinion.  Can't you discern the difference?  The LSM is putting their liberal agenda into their actual news programming.  It is blatant.  Then again, and repeating, you can't see that because you are a brainwashed liberal who thinks that opinions are news.  Journalism is dead on the LSM stations.  

Per Fox, Sheppard Smith is as anti Trump as they come.  Megyn Fox was anti Trump.  There are examples of many anti Trump people at Fox but including Juan Williams who plays a major role at that station.  Until he lost his battle with drugs etc. Bob Beckel also was anti Trump.  Geraldo Rivera is also anti Trump.  


Very interesting, but

WTF is "fake news"? Opinion is not news.

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
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Ari Fleischer is in a Twitter war right now with Chris Cuomo.  Fleischer's premise, which I have witnessed myself, is that every time CNN has a liberal on, they are allowed to talk endlessly without interruption.  But, without exception, every time a conservative is on, they are interrupted constantly and demanded to provide proof of whatever they are saying.

I see the same thing.  I get news alerts from CNN, FoxNews and AP.  90% of the CNN alerts are either news that they think is bad for Trump or outright opinion.  AP, though a left leaner for sure, is much more even-handed.

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Ari Fleischer is in a Twitter war right now with Chris Cuomo.  Fleischer's premise, which I have witnessed myself, is that every time CNN has a liberal on, they are allowed to talk endlessly without interruption.  But, without exception, every time a conservative is on, they are interrupted constantly and demanded to provide proof of whatever they are saying.

I see the same thing.  I get news alerts from CNN, FoxNews and AP.  90% of the CNN alerts are either news that they think is bad for Trump or outright opinion.  AP, though a left leaner for sure, is much more even-handed.


I see that sometimes, but it generally occurs when an administration spokesman refuses to answer the questions(ala Kellyanne Conway), but reverts to talking points. Cuomo is very fair. Not sure why anyone would object to his interviews. Don Lemon is probably the worst. Has little use for some contrasting views. I agree with him sometimes, not so much at others. 

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
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