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uwApoligist

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Posted Reply with quote  #61 
I think she is saying she knows more than doctors do. 

Trump aced the cognitive test.  In particular the Montreal Cognitive Assessment (MoCa) that lib doctors challenged him to take.  He scored 30 for 30.
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"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
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Posted Reply with quote  #62 
I'm saying he did no evaluation and mysteriously left out his heart condition. That's what I'm saying. He doesn't want to be swabbing decks in some sh1thouse harbor somewhere.
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When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you.
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Posted Reply with quote  #63 

Dewey's post, using Hillary as an example:

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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
A narrative by politicians and pundits that Hillary was too sick to serve or would soon be in jail was just that, a narrative.  Articles by press saying Hillary had a serious illness would be examples of unsubstantiated reports that could be described as fake news.  Saying US held rigged elections and millions of undocumented voted are more examples of unsubstantiated news.


Fresh's response, when subbing in Trump:

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Not fake news when all they did was report the opinions of leading psychiatrists. The reporting was accurate, they said it. If this an example of fake news, I get why you think the MSM is fake. You don't know what it is. Fake news must be a lie, intentionally stated for the purpose of misleading the readers. You and trump refer to any news report unfavorable to him as fake. These were reports of the opinions of psychiatrists, not the liberal idiots on the UCS Misc forum. 

Psychiatrists worried that trump is a sick puppy is not fake news. They are seriously worried.....along with me. Only way to explain the things he does.


Now, re-read Fresh's post but sub Hillary back in.
 
What they want you to believe:

It's bad when the Right questions the fitness of a Democrat, but totally legit when the Left attacks Trump.

What they also want you to believe:

They're not raging hypocrites. [rofl]
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The statements are not unlike.  One admitted pundits and politicians stating Hillary was too sick to serve were simply continuing a narrative and were not examples of fake news.  It was their opinion.  They were not serving as journalists.  However, if a journalist wrote an article stating Hillary had a serious illness that would make serving difficult, that would have been fake news assuming no illness had been discovered.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.
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Posted Reply with quote  #65 
He evaluated him and said he was fit to serve.

Truth hurts on this one. Talking points led you astray.
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Posted Reply with quote  #66 
Physically, there was no psychiatric evaluation. If you can find evidence of one, please enlighten us.
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John O. Brennan Retweeted donald j. trump(denny)

When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you.
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I'm saying he did no evaluation and mysteriously left out his heart condition. That's what I'm saying. He doesn't want to be swabbing decks in some sh1thouse harbor somewhere.

Everyone is reporting Trump did cognitive test and passed with flying colors.
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"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
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Everyone? Pablum and graycie and oowwaa? News man, news source. I have many reports he is not stable. Most people never have to tell people they are stable and possess genius when they actually do. Your everybody knows it. I suggest nobody knows it.
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John O. Brennan Retweeted donald j. trump(denny)

When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you.
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Physically, there was no psychiatric evaluation. If you can find evidence of one, please enlighten us.


Doctor said he wasn’t fit to serve. Case closed.

Unless an army physician that also examined President obama is in on your tfh theories and talking points.

Your argument is with the army - dems are good at that.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/28/donald-trump-cognitive-test-journalists-moca


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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
WTF?
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Blitzkrieg
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Let’s take note that even the title of this thread by Dewey is a lie. Why does he lie all the time
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The Right is pushing an agenda the MSM is lying to the public because they think there is a bias in the MSM.  The Right is free to believe in such a bias, as is their right, but they are being deliberately misleading in suggesting the public is being fed "MSM news" known to be inaccurate.


Please post the next example of a news article (not commentary or editorial) which includes facts known to be false and we'll kick it around.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.
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Translated from deep in the rabbit hole
I have seen multiple posts describing in detail examples of the MSM being caught red handed telling lies, fake news, but I choose to ignore them all and I will also ignore any more that are posted after this point because it doesn’t fitmy narrative. Just lie Fresh ignoring any website that is not left wing
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Dewey begging for interaction - drink on a Sunday.
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Translated from deep in the rabbit hole I have seen multiple posts describing in detail examples of the MSM being caught red handed telling lies, fake news, but I choose to ignore them all and I will also ignore any more that are posted after this point because it doesn’t fitmy narrative. Just lie Fresh ignoring any website that is not left wing


You don't have 1 example of a major news source telling a lie. 1 example was the Time reporter tweeting about the MLK bust. It wasn't a news story, he tweeted it and after finding it was in error, immediately rescinded it. There might be misinformation or shoddy, lazy reporting, but the writers were punished. In order for a story to be a lie, the outlet must know it's untrue before running the story. You got nothing on this count. You guys show maybe 10 examples(most open to speculation) and act like there is some sort of conspiracy. Ah, conspiracy, the life blood of fringe conservatives. You really have nothing. Definitely no proof. 
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John O. Brennan Retweeted donald j. trump(denny)

When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you.
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Originally Posted by ForeverInBlue

 
What they want you to believe:

It's bad when the Right questions the fitness of a Democrat, but totally legit when the Left attacks Trump. I said this when? And conservatives question the fitness, but progressives attack trump. Try to be a little more objective.

What they also want you to believe:

They're not raging hypocrites. [rofl]  Look in the mirror.
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John O. Brennan Retweeted donald j. trump(denny)

When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you.
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Posted Reply with quote  #78 
this thread really gained traction today

straws grasping
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And right in cue Pop n Fresh responds with your links and sources are not acceptable in my world. What a freakin predictable troll
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So fake news is any news you don't like. They reported reports from reputable doctors. Not reporting such information could be considered negligence. For he is, as we all know, a looney tune. 


News is not some guy's opinion when they have political agendas to push.  How can you not understand this?  Well, that is simple enough because you are brainwashed.  

Did you see all of the LSM pushing the Obama is a Muslim agenda as if it were fact?  Heck no because that is an opinion held by some without proof.  Of course, you can't see the validity of this comparison.  
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Once again, the whole “Muslim Ban” was fake news spun up by MSM and the left.
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Once again, the whole “Muslim Ban” was fake news spun up by MSM and the left.


Not according to Giuliani. Asked to write a "legally worded" Muslim ban. Substituted dangerous for Muslim. Big whoop. trump's words, not mine. Then, as usual, tries to lie his way out. Works on you, not on me.
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John O. Brennan Retweeted donald j. trump(denny)

When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachB25


News is not some guy's opinion when they have political agendas to push.  How can you not understand this?  Well, that is simple enough because you are brainwashed.  

Did you see all of the LSM pushing the Obama is a Muslim agenda as if it were fact?  Heck no because that is an opinion held by some without proof.  Of course, you can't see the validity of this comparison.  




Let's establish what "fake news" is. Originally it was a story that was a lie or a fabrication, presented as fact. Are you saying any biased story that doesn't show both sides is "fake news"? Is Fox "fake news"? Hannity?
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John O. Brennan Retweeted donald j. trump(denny)

When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you.
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Posted Reply with quote  #84 
If you lie but then retract a lie, it's still a lie, liar
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fresh


Let's establish what "fake news" is. Originally it was a story that was a lie or a fabrication, presented as fact. Are you saying any biased story that doesn't show both sides is "fake news"? Is Fox "fake news"? Hannity?



Hannity is political commentary, no different then Maddow or Lemon.


Sorry your blind hatred won't let you see the difference
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Posted Reply with quote  #86 
Hannity is presented as punditry.  CNN is saying what they are doing is actual news.  Big difference.
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Originally Posted by Fresh
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Hannity is political commentary, no different then Maddow or Lemon.


Sorry your blind hatred won't let you see the difference


How about Fox? You conveniently jumped to Hannity. I agree with most of your assessment, by the way. Cable news is populated to a great degree by entertainment programming, aimed at a particular audience. I watch CNN to feel good. The talking heads say things I agree with. The CNN pure news is timely and will beat print news(NY Times, WSJ, LA Times, Washington Post, etc.) to it's audience. When reported, I always check the sensational against other news sources, especially WSJ. I don't rely on Facebook or Twitter, like some here. We all have sources we rely on since we can't be there to witness every activity. Thus, the differences of opinion. It's just how it is. 
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John O. Brennan Retweeted donald j. trump(denny)

When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you.
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Originally Posted by uwApoligist
Hannity is presented as punditry.  CNN is saying what they are doing is actual news.  Big difference.


Wrong. Their talking heads are expressing opinion. They have pure news also, but it is easily differentiated. You just want to criticize, they are no different than the other cable news sources.
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John O. Brennan Retweeted donald j. trump(denny)

When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you.
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I only watch the news segments.  They are mostly opinion as well.   The crying reporter announcing the Oprah run collapsed on day 2 was a news segment.

Fox has shepard smith constantly gleefully rolling out anti-trump 'news'.  Most other fox news guys shoot it pretty straight.  Hannity, Carlson, etc. are clearly opinion/pundit  shows.
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Originally Posted by Fresh
"before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it"
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None of them have real news - maybe when covering a breaking story, but other than that it is all opinion.
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