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pabar61

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Nobody cares what you "need".  What a narcissist.
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Every time Trump points out the media is lying, it harms the lying media.

That’s a very good thing.

MSM lack of credibility is a self-inflicted wound.
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"Every time Trump points out the media is lying, it harms the lying media."


That's very much the thinking of many foreign dictators and the like.

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The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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I would need to see a specific story about the Muslim ban to know if it were an editorial or a news report.  Expressed opinions on what the travel ban means to individual pundits are not examples of fake news.  Reporting events as facts, that are known to be untrue, are examples of fake news.  The NYT was told by multiple sources that Trump ordered Mueller to be fired.  Trump calls that fake news by the NYT.  He should have said the sources all lied and not blamed the paper for its report.

As for Trumps list, I'll cover a couple right now.  Paul Krugman predicting the stock market is just his opinion.  It's an editorial.  It's not close to an example of fake news.  As for CNN making an error in their story, it was inaccurate and it was corrected.  If one were in favor of fake news, why would they correct the story?  Don't take a mistake made by MSM and twist it into an accusation they deliberately lie.  It seems they didn't know at the time their fact was wrong so it can't be considered a lie.  In fact, these mistakes have been relatively few. 

Many on the Right have trouble with a narrative coming from TV entertainment hosts, Hollywood, and cable TV pundits and are unfairly blaming the press.  Charging the press with deliberately publishing fake news is a dangerous charge, one many of our adversaries practice regularly, and deserves specific examples, specific articles, and a thorough understanding of statement of fact versus opinion in order to support such a huge claim.

PS:  Someone just said "everyone knows it" which would be an example of a "false comment" if a journalist used it in his story because I doubt any fact is known by everyone.  Now I see more and more examples have popped up but I don't see any article linked supporting the claim of a deliberate lie.


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The “Muslim ban” narrative was prominent for most of 2017, promulgated by the media and the left, includiing many high-ranking Democratic Party politicians. It’s surreal that anyone would try to deny it’s existence.

While Krugman’s statement was an opinion, the fact that he was completely wrong is news. Real news, not fake news.

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Look's like dewy's thesis is as full of holes as his career here, next handle please
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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"Every time Trump points out the media is lying, it harms the lying media."


That's very much the thinking of many foreign dictators and the like.


It’s also the thinking of those who expect impartial and credible reporting.

It should be hard to believe anyone would defend fake news, but here you are.

When it comes to “foreign dictators and the like” repressing news outlets, Trump is nothing like them. He doesn’t imprison reporters, shutter opposition news organizations, or have them murdered. Obama’s treatment of James Rosen was more like those dictators than anything Trump has done.
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A narrative by politicians and pundits that Hillary was too sick to serve or would soon be in jail was just that, a narrative.  Articles by press saying Hillary had a serious illness would be examples of unsubstantiated reports that could be described as fake news.  Saying US held rigged elections and millions of undocumented voted are more examples of unsubstantiated news.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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A narrative by politicians and pundits that Hillary was too sick to serve or would soon be in jail was just that, a narrative.  Articles by press saying Hillary had a serious illness would be examples of unsubstantiated reports that could be described as fake news.  Saying US held rigged elections and millions of undocumented voted are more examples of unsubstantiated news.


Substitute “Trump” and “mentally unfit” into the above paragraph and you have more examples of recent fake news promulgated by the Left.
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Originally Posted by Fresh

"Denny and Cohen sure don't want t to give depositions. 2 weeks before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it. Why no talky? Another bullet for the AR-Mueller assault investigation."

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looking pretty ill there
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
Will_I_Wynn

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For years and years the Right has pushed a narrative the MSM is biased in favor of the Left.  It's an opinion, based on a judgment many have formed, and they are entitled to it.  Unfortunately, and most likely out of frustration, they have moved from this narrative and have now stated as fact the MSM lies to the American people.  The President is the worst offender when it comes to this attack on the MSM. 

This change by the Right is a perfect illustration of the distinction between an opinion that's fair to have and a claim that is, for the most part, intentional "false news".  Lying to the American people requires a deliberate action to put out news known to be inaccurate.  The MSM is not in the practice of doing any such thing and using this charge against them is both unwise for the security of our nation and unfair to the MSM as a whole.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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Originally Posted by Fresh

"Denny and Cohen sure don't want t to give depositions. 2 weeks before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it. Why no talky? Another bullet for the AR-Mueller assault investigation."

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For years and years the Left has pushed a narrative the MSM is biased in favor of the Right.  It's an opinion, based on a judgment many have formed, and they are entitled to it.  Unfortunately, and most likely out of frustration, they have moved from this narrative and have now stated as fact the MSM lies to the American people.  The President is the best offender when it comes to this attack on the MSM. 

This change by the Left is a perfect illustration of the distinction between an opinion that's fair to have and a claim that is, for the most part, intentional "false news".  Lying to the American people requires a deliberate action to put out news known to be inaccurate.  The MSM is in the practice of doing just such a thing and using this charge against them is both wise for the security of our nation and fair to the MSM as a whole.


Great analysis dew.

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Originally Posted by Fresh

"Denny and Cohen sure don't want t to give depositions. 2 weeks before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it. Why no talky? Another bullet for the AR-Mueller assault investigation."

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Has anyone else realized will (Dewey) is lying every day?
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Yes.
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Originally Posted by Fresh

"Denny and Cohen sure don't want t to give depositions. 2 weeks before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it. Why no talky? Another bullet for the AR-Mueller assault investigation."

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Can you repost your investigative work exposing him?
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Substitute “Trump” and “mentally unfit” into the above paragraph and you have more examples of recent fake news promulgated by the Left.


Not fake news when all they did was report the opinions of leading psychiatrists. The reporting was accurate, they said it. If this an example of fake news, I get why you think the MSM is fake. You don't know what it is. Fake news must be a lie, intentionally stated for the purpose of misleading the readers. You and trump refer to any news report unfavorable to him as fake. These were reports of the opinions of psychiatrists, not the liberal idiots on the UCS Misc forum. 

Psychiatrists worried that trump is a sick puppy is not fake news. They are seriously worried.....along with me. Only way to explain the things he does.

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It’s also the thinking of those who expect impartial and credible reporting. It should be hard to believe anyone would defend fake news, but here you are. When it comes to “foreign dictators and the like” repressing news outlets, Trump is nothing like them. He doesn’t imprison reporters, shutter opposition news organizations, or have them murdered. Obama’s treatment of James Rosen was more like those dictators than anything Trump has done.


When asked for examples, your kin can only come up with 6-10 examples of shoddy, lazy reporting that resulted in the firing or suspension of the people responsible. None were shown to be lies, just bad reporting. For you to demand perfection from any segment of our society is unreasonable. Our current press corp at the main news sources are the only reason we will be able to stay a democratic republic. trump would do whatever he could to enact any legislation he saw promoted on Fox in the morning. I personally don't want Fox and the Koch's running the country. 

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I’m sure you and your friends on the left are more qualified than an army medical doctor.
Was he an admiral?
The hubris.
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I’m sure you and your friends on the left are more qualified than an army medical doctor. Was he an admiral? The hubris.


Are you referring to the physical? There was no psychiatric evaluation and he hid the heart problems. Other than that, it was very supportive of your position.

Edit to add: Without the questioning from the media, we would have never known about his heart problem. I consider that an important piece of information.

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I’m sure the Army physician has more experience with psychiatric a valuation than you do.

Quit reading talking points.

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I’m sure the Army physician has more experience with psychiatric a valuation than you do. Quit reading talking points.


Show me the psychiatric report.......there is none. He's not a psychiatrist.

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Originally Posted by Fresh

"Denny and Cohen sure don't want t to give depositions. 2 weeks before the election a d Iowa sId hi.self that there was nothing to it. Why no talky? Another bullet for the AR-Mueller assault investigation."

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Not fake news when all they did was report the opinions of leading psychiatrists. The reporting was accurate, they said it. If this an example of fake news, I get why you think the MSM is fake. You don't know what it is. Fake news must be a lie, intentionally stated for the purpose of misleading the readers. You and trump refer to any news report unfavorable to him as fake. These were reports of the opinions of psychiatrists, not the liberal idiots on the UCS Misc forum. 

Psychiatrists worried that trump is a sick puppy is not fake news. They are seriously worried.....along with me. Only way to explain the things he does.


It is fake news since it is irresponsible journalism.  These "doctors" have not interviewed Trump.  They are not his Doctor.  They are unprofessional and the Lame Stream Media is publishing medical evaluations that they know are not valid.  Their opinions are simply that and do damage to all legitimate Doctors.  These Doctors are liberals who are pushing their political agenda.  Fake News!

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Never gets in Fresh’s way of stupidly spitting out talking points. All physicians are trained to see if a person is mentally competent.
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Never gets in Fresh’s way of stupidly spitting out talking points. All physicians are trained to see if a person is mentally competent.


That is a crock of conservative sh1t!

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Unfortunately, the definition of "fake news" is being twisted to mean almost anything.  Are we to suggest if a group of doctors get together and say the President appears unfit, the press is not allowed to print their findings or opinions?  That's like saying the press should not have printed stories describing those who said President Obama was a foreigner.  That's asking far too much of the press.  When important people say incredible things, it may be worth sharing their opinions with the public.

There's an ongoing video where President Trump says he received the most electoral votes since Reagan.  That's was false news by itself and the President was inaccurate to state such.  Moments later, after being corrected, he clarified and said someone told him it was the largest vote total.  Assuming the President was actually told these facts by another, then it's not fake news for him to repeat it.  It may not be true but it isn't fake news as somebody really did tell him such.  He may have to come out later and correct the record but he wouldn't be accused of stating something he knew wasn't true.

The Right is pushing an agenda the MSM is lying to the public because they think there is a bias in the MSM.  The Right is free to believe in such a bias, as it's their right, but they are being deliberately misleading in suggesting the public is being fed "MSM news" known to be inaccurate.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just because I refuse to criminalize abortion/adultery/offensive speech doesn't mean I favor it.


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It is fake news since it is irresponsible journalism.  These "doctors" have not interviewed Trump.  They are not his Doctor.  They are unprofessional and the Lame Stream Media is publishing medical evaluations that they know are not valid.  Their opinions are simply that and do damage to all legitimate Doctors.  These Doctors are liberals who are pushing their political agenda.  Fake News!


So fake news is any news you don't like. They reported reports from reputable doctors. Not reporting such information could be considered negligence. For he is, as we all know, a looney tune. 

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That is a crock of conservative sh1t!


Are you saying physicians don’t do a psychiatric rotation?
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