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pabar61

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Fletcher disagrees with you and he's much more credible than you.  After all, you're a Democrat who claimed to be a Libertarian so your credibility is worth nothing.
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Fletcher disagrees with you and he's much more credible than you.  After all, you're a Democrat who claimed to be a Libertarian so your credibility is worth nothing.


And you are a liar that continues to say that, but knows full well what I said. Fake newser Pablum.

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If we now include commentary, opinion, narrative, and editorials as definitions of fake news, asking for examples of MSM feeding us false facts is probably a futile effort.  I admit I didn't see this vast definition coming.  The description of fake news is so blurred in the eyes of the Right that it's applied to almost everything reported which they disagree with.

Using this right-leaning standard, the Left must get irate when the MSM publishes articles describing how the President says millions of illegals voted in our election.  With this new definition the press could be accused of spreading fake news by keeping the President's false claim in the public arena.  You know, keeping his narrative alive and pushing a story that is fake.  In a dictatorship, this type of media describing a President's position would be allowed while others would be dismissed as fake news meant to destroy a nation.

An open MSM will continue to publish factual news.  If people claim President Obama didn't meet the qualifications to be President, the press is going to report it.  The claims being made are the facts of the story, not what these people claim.  This President is going to great lengths to dismiss and destroy our free press as we know it and, should he succeed, our Democracy will be the worse off for it.

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Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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If anyone believes they are truly watching the "news" without bias, that's on them.  Any politician or public official should certainly attempt to frame themselves in the news and limit coverage when possible.
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And you are a liar that continues to say that, but knows full well what I said. Fake newser Pablum.


Here it is.

pabar61 

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Thank you.  The content is even more impressive.  I assume you're a Democrat.  If so, how proud are you of your political heritage?
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Fresh 

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Libertarian 
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The previous comment is an opinion. It came as the result of a lifetime of keen observation and spectacular failures. I did conclude this; hopefully, we learn as much from failure as we do from our accomplishments.

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Excellent points. Reporting what someone says is not verifying it. It is up to the reader to decide. 
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Now that's a Blitzkrieg 
pabar61

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Fresh - now that I've provided the proof are you still going to deny that you claimed to be a Libertarian?
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I've never claimed to be a libertarian. I said, if forced to describe myself, I was a democrat with libertarian leanings. I will not respond to your bs any more.
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Literally back to back posts on 9/28.  As usual, pabar is not lying here.  And as usual, you run away.

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Thank you.  The content is even more impressive.  I assume you're a Democrat.  If so, how proud are you of your political heritage?


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Libertarian


Here is the conversation you are referring to from 9/29:
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hehe.  Going to trip ole Freshy up with this one.  Maybe Freshy be a big duhvernment libertarian  ahhahaha.  


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Don't fit any mold. Mostly fiscal libertarian, social more dem.



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I said that I assumed you were a democrat.  You replied with one word - Libertarian.  Spin it out how you want - you're lying now to cover yourself.
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Our young men and women are risking their lives overseas protecting a Democracy whose press is now considered by their CIC as an enemy of the people, whose elections are often called rigged, whose law enforcement agencies have supposedly been taken hostage by a mysterious deep state intent on taking down the GOP, and whose leaders disrespect the opposition every chance they get.  Something tells me the last thing these young brave soldiers think about when looking back at their homeland is football players kneeling during a national anthem.  The "shining city on a hill" is fading fast these days and the morale of those who serve can't help but be affected. 
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama voted best job as President during our lifetime.

     "In these times, I believe that social media has become evil."
Not sure we must blanket all social media but when anonymous adults attack other anonymous adults on the internet, one has to wonder what chance our kids have.

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Our young men and women are risking their lives overseas protecting a Democracy whose press is now considered by their CIC as an enemy of the people, whose elections are often called rigged, whose law enforcement agencies have supposedly been taken hostage by a mysterious deep state intent on taking down the GOP, and whose leaders disrespect the opposition every chance they get.  Something tells me the last thing these young brave soldiers think about when looking back at their homeland is football players kneeling during a national anthem.  The "shining city on a hill" is fading fast these days and the morale of those who serve can't help but be affected. 


I know this is your opinion but I think it's 100% wrong.  I think the military loves Trump because 1) he's not Obama who had complete disdain for the military; and 2) Trump respects the military.

https://www.cnn.com/2014/12/22/politics/obama-military-low-approval-rating/index.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/10/26/military-times-poll-majority-troops-support-president-trump/802279001/


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I said that I assumed you were a democrat.  You replied with one word - Libertarian.  Spin it out how you want - you're lying now to cover yourself.


Lying liars lie to cover their lying asses

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I mean what did you think Fresh was? I always assumed Socialist Democrat, but not a Marxist like Dewey.

I consider myself slightly right of Attila the Hun, whom I considered to be a bit soft on foreign affairs.

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I mean what did you think Fresh was? I always assumed Socialist Democrat, but not a Marxist like Dewey.

I consider myself slightly right of Attila the Hun, whom I considered to be a bit soft on foreign affairs.


I figured he was a Democrat which is why I was pretty surprised when he claimed he was a Libertarian.  I thought it worthy of a challenge.

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Duaine, you authored a whole thread asking for information on your homework assignment.  You were presented with your examples here on this thread and you still don't get it.  Did you graduate high school even?  The media has an obligation to report the truth.  Haven't you understood that most of the trump collusion story has been fabricated by the media?  

You still don't 'get' the idea of fake news?  You think the media has no obligation for truth?  How have you survived in that attic all these years?

You warn people continuously about what they read on the internet but yet you think the populace don't need to hold print media and news media accountable for reporting the truth?  Where is your disconnect?

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Woody is the man. Still waiting for the invite for a weekend of guns, bbq, and brown water. My treat just need to be not in CA. TX ain’t so far away
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I love how some here complain about the mainstream media--what a laugh. The right-wingers on this board have never read a good newspaper in their lives; they wouldn't know the New York Times or Washington Post if it hit them in the head. They have no clue about the media. All they do is spout what they've heard from fat blowhards on right-wing radio. Essentially, conservatives nowadays have been relegated to claiming that everything that runs counter to their shallow, ignorant ideology is fake--or some sort of conspiracy. It's like conservative/GOP politicians--or Scott Pruitt, our disgraceful EPA chief from backwoods Oklahoma--trying to tell scientists that they are wrong about global warming. Really? Fox "news" was started by a foul conservative businessman who then installed a Republican political operative to run it--fat Roger Aisles, who at one time worked for Richard Nixon. No Democratic Party operatives have ever run CBS or the Washington Post.

Of course there are progressives in the mainstream media: the more educated and cosmopolitan one is, the more progressive they tend to be, and most people in the mainstream media are well educated and have been around. When you are well educated and have seen the world, you tend to be more broad-minded than people who aren't. There is no party line in the mainstream media; they have no talking points like they do at fox or other cheap, third-rate right-wing organizations. Fox boobs spent years talking about Benghazi as if a terrorist attack in Libya happened because of some dark Clinton conspiracy. Good grief. There is fake news, all right--and it comes from the right with all its laughable conspiracy nonsense. The latest is that conservative individuals create blogs and give them names like newspapers and then the individual writes BS about the Democratic opponent--or lauds the Republican--and the GOP candidate claims he or she's been endorsed by the "Maine Monitor," which sounds like a newspaper but in reality is some portly, middle-aged main in a one-horse town sitting in his basement with a bag of Cheetos next to his PC. 

The mainstream media is not biased against Trump. They see him very clearly for what he is--a dishonest, ignorant sleaze who is a danger to our democracy. A prolific liar--tell me that's not a fact. A corrupt, unethical individual---tell me that's not a fact; there is reams of proof. He's a 14-year-old bully in a 71-year-old's body, with fake hair and teeth, who can't stop spouting BS because that's all he's done all his life--and he gets mad when all his lies and his stupid actions are exposed. If Trump were a mature, civilized, ethical human being, he wouldn't have a problem with the media--but he's not. The media's job is to scrutinize people in power--Republican or Democrat--and in fact you should be thankful that the mainstream media is exposing Trump for who he is. Nobody in the mainstream media makes up stories about Donald Trump--it's all true. 

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you type for comedic effect? Your salt is a source of extreme joy
you are a caricature of yourself and the rest of the libtard circle of jerk-offs

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Kazoo.......hear, hear. They don't want to hear, nor understand such talk. The true patriots are our MSM journalists. I hope Trump is exposed by the Mueller probe. They won't publicly admit it, but it would convince them.
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Kazoo.......hear, hear. They don't want to hear, nor understand such talk. The true patriots are our MSM journalists. I hope Trump is exposed by the Mueller probe. They won't publicly admit it, but it would convince them.


If Mueller has something, then F'ing show it already. Dems and eGOP would be fine for a continuing investigation of this "matter" to use the FBI term. I suppose we could be waiting for the investigation to conclude around November 2024. It's like watching a couple of punks squaring off. Stop F'ing jacking your jaws, and take a swing already.

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If Mueller has something, then F'ing show it already. Dems and eGOP would be fine for a continuing investigation of this "matter" to use the FBI term. I suppose we could be waiting for the investigation to conclude around November 2024. It's like watching a couple of punks squaring off. Stop F'ing jacking your jaws, and take a swing already.


You know why there hasn't been more divulged. A seasoned prosecutor determines the best time to act. Any disclosure of the direction of the probe would allow people like Manafort to attempt to cover their tracks. Get pleas from the lower echelon and amass evidence for the big fish. I just think it has to do with money laundering and getting financing from Russian oligarchs. The obstruction case has probably already been proven. The money trail is much more complex and takes time. 

We'll see. trump sure is scared.

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Fresh said........
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I hope Trump is exposed by the Mueller probe.


What's funny about this is - you're probably not joking!!   [rofl]
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You know why there hasn't been more divulged. A seasoned prosecutor determines the best time to act. Any disclosure of the direction of the probe would allow people like Manafort to attempt to cover their tracks. Get pleas from the lower echelon and amass evidence for the big fish. I just think it has to do with money laundering and getting financing from Russian oligarchs. The obstruction case has probably already been proven. The money trail is much more complex and takes time. 

We'll see. trump sure is scared.


I will counter with this question. How long should an "investigation" be allowed to continue on a fishing expedition? One year, four, ten? When would you say that an investigation should have been concluded, and it's findings made public? I would propose that Democrats will support some type of investigation of "matters" until a Democrat is president and Trump is out of office. The eGOP would likely support the same.

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Clinton probe took longer. Sex with an intern was not where it started. It takes......as long as it takes. Do you want them to miss something?
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They are no longer looking at collusion.  It has become a fishing expedition that is going nowhere.  They should do Mueller a favor and take him out back and old yellor him.
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You keep saying that. Is it for my benefit or yours? I'm convinced the money trail will sink him.
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Cristina Garcia, Democrat lawmaker from CA who helped start the MeToo movement is under investigation for sexually harassing and groping two men.  Anybody see that reported on CNN?  The answer to that question would be - No.
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