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keepinitreal

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I thought of you man.

I Will Never Vote For Donald Trump. 

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Why in the world would conservatives live with President Hillary Clinton on their consciences?

 

Because first, it’s not on our consciences. It’s on the consciences of the people who went along with this nomination. We did not select Trump. We will not vote for him.

 

 


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Dewey

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I believe mikec would find it a very difficult place to call Democrat voters "lemmings" and then vote for Donald Trump.
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I believe mikec would find it a very difficult place to call Democrat voters "lemmings" and then vote for Donald Trump.


Is that something mike said, or is that something you fabricated so you could take a cheap backhand slap at everyone who said they would vote for Trump.

Keep pretending you aren't constantly insulting the Right on the board.

We see you.

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They all vote for Hillary like lemmings, because DWS told them too.



I wouldn't have mentioned it if he hadn't said it.
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Ah, so you only "spun it" to take a cheap shot at anyone on the Right who votes for Trump. Got it.
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Good article - thanks for thinking of me!
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I believe mikec would find it a very difficult place to call Democrat voters "lemmings" and then vote for Donald Trump.


I'm not really sure what this is supposed to mean.  DWS is firmly in control of the Democrat party, and is calling all of the shots.  This whole HRC campaign has been orchestrated by DWS for years.

As for Trump - I resent people saying "conservatives have to vote for Trump".  Wrong, they do not.

I saw Megan McCain on the 5 yesterday.  She was being pushed by Eric Bowling to back Trump "for the good of the party".  After awhile, she finally got pissed, and told Eric that Trump had demeaned the torture that her father endured, and has not apologized.  She said she would sit out rather than vote for Trump.

That is but one thing.  The man is not even a Republican, much less a Conservative.   Add to that he's a liar, and a don't know why anyone would vote for him.  Well, I do - "stick it to the man, the establishment, or whatever boogey man I imagine."   That is stupid.

Clinton is also a flip-flopping liar, except she has American blood on her hands.  She is worse than trump.

I won't be voting for either one.


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FIB - My post had nothing to do with anyone else but mikec.  Nice try though.  Those trying to convince mikec to vote "Trump" appear to be putting him into a very difficult place.  Maybe they should take mikec at his word.

Edit:  Before I'm corrected on complete accuracy, my post was also aimed at those who are trying to get him to re-think his position.

Edit II:  I'm also not implying that was the intention of this particular thread.  This article supports those like mikec.
mikec

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I am not in a difficult place.
Dewey

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mikec - I see that now and it is just what I would have expected.
keepinitreal

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NO schitt dewy, Mike's a grown ass man. mike will be OK. If you vote for hillary you are an enemy to this country. You libtards change everyone's environment to satisfy your desire for diversity and phucking fairness.

I wanted to talk to Mike through this thread, you have more posts on here than mikec. Piss off and go to a whining thread this thread is for grownups. FIB thanks for taking up my slack, tilled 1/2 my garden spot today getting ready for rain, yes

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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"Maybe they should take mikec at his word."

I always have dewfus

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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dewy, Ben Shapiro says he is not voting for Trump and mikec says he's not. How do you know that, THEY ARE'NT TRYING TO TALK TO ME? Get it?

I respect both of them, greatly and I could be talked into not voting for Trump but probably not. I didn't compose this thread to talk mike out of anything, I wrote this thread to pat him on the back, Go away

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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I remember when NAFTA sounded like a bad idea back when it ran through congress. I was young and a low info, we all are as voters more or less at some time. Bernie tearing her aSS up.
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Originally Posted by keepinitreal
Mike's a grown ass man.


Thanks.  My wife would be probably beg to differ though.

To repay the compliment, I actually thought of you today as well.  I was at Home Depot picking up some stuff to catch up on some home fix-its, and they had blackberry and blueberry plants.  I am going to pick some up and get them in the ground this week.

I also made it over to the seed section, and had visions of a real garden.  Alas, that will have to wait another year or two until we move out of postage-stamp lot suburbia to the country.  It's game on then.

I also thought of Dewey today actually too.  I was cleaning my pistol in anticipation of heading to the range tomorrow or Tuesday.  I thought - I wonder what Dewey or folks like him would do if they were standing in a room full of strangers using live ammunition.  Would probably be terrifying.
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FIB - My post had nothing to do with anyone else but mikec.  Nice try though.  No, you compared Trump voters to Democrat lemmings, when the two are entirely different beasts. The Democrat lemmings are being led mindlessly along by the Dem machine, while the Trump voters are the polar opposite, disrupting the GOP machine. The difference is glaringly obvious, but i'm not surprised you can't see that.

Those trying to convince mikec to vote "Trump" appear to be putting him into a very difficult place. He hardly needs you riding to his rescue, it's not like he's a gay illegal immigrant. Maybe they should take mikec at his word. Maybe you should leave the discussion to adults.

Edit:  Before I'm corrected on complete accuracy, my post was also aimed at those who are trying to get him to re-think his position. Ah so, you were aiming it at others on the right. Maybe you should look at the first line of your post - your stupid is showing. [crazy]

Edit II:  I'm also not implying that was the intention of this particular thread.  This article supports those like mike. You read an article? hahhhahahhahahaha!

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keepinitreal

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Is that something mike said, or is that something you fabricated so you could take a cheap backhand slap at everyone who said they would vote for Trump.

Keep pretending you aren't constantly insulting the Right on the board.

We see you.


"We see you"

Yes we do

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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I wouldn't have mentioned it if he hadn't said it.


Bull crapola, you insinuate constantly. You are quite the 'extrapolater'

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
Dewey

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The point should have been easy to determine but I'll define it for those who didn't get it...

If you're a Republican voter who thinks Trump is unqualified, or would be horrible as POTUS, and you have also called Democrat voters "lemmings", then you are in a very difficult place if you're now giving consideration to voting for Trump.

If you're a Republican voter who feels the same way about Trump as I described above, and did not call Democrat voters "lemmings", then you have no hurdles relating to voting for Trump, assuming you think it's a good and/or necessary idea. 

Hope that explains more clearly for those who missed my point.
keepinitreal

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We still missed your point. This is not your conversation, we don't need to have a conversation with you. FIB explained it well enough for me, read it and try to understand.


"No, you compared Trump voters to Democrat lemmings, when the two are entirely different beasts. The Democrat lemmings are being led mindlessly along by the Dem machine, while the Trump voters are the polar opposite, disrupting the GOP machine. The difference is glaringly obvious, but i'm not surprised you can't see that."

There are a dozen whiney threads about you, this may be the first with Mike's name in it. Quit your subtle domineering tactics. #byeFelicia

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Originally Posted by Dewey
The point should have been easy to determine but I'll define it for those who didn't get it...

If you're a Republican voter who thinks Trump is unqualified, or would be horrible as POTUS, and you have also called Democrat voters "lemmings", then you are in a very difficult place if you're now giving consideration to voting for Trump.

If you're a Republican voter who feels the same way about Trump as I described above, and did not call Democrat voters "lemmings", then you have no hurdles relating to voting for Trump, assuming you think it's a good and/or necessary idea. 

Hope that explains more clearly for those who missed my point.


I admit, I am lost. 

I have called Dems lemmings because they are following the crazy-haired pied piper from South FL.

How I do not understand how the above "point" relates at all to me is that I am in no way giving any consideration whatsoever to voting for Trump, should he be the nominee.

I would have imagined that would be clear.

I thought I had said, probably more times than blue cares for, that I will not vote for Trump, nor will I vote for Hillary.

In fact, I am quite sure that was the point of the OP.
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I gues a Dem can't imagine nor understand not voting for your party candiadate if they are not someone you support. It's called principles and values, not going along to get yours.
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mikec - I fully understand your position.  Nobody has to explain it to me.  Republicans not voting for Trump makes perfect sense from where I sit.

What keeps my curiosity going on this subject is why there are those who feel they must explain their refusal to vote for Donald.  Why must they write articles explaining themselves as we just read?  In addition, I'm curious as to why others would try to influence any of these Republicans who say they won't vote for Trump?  It's a strange phenomenon if you ask me.  I picked you out by name because you get mentioned more than anyone here and you are probably the one Republican who we know can't be convinced to support Trump.  Nobody who calls others "lemmings" is going to turn himself into one by voting for a candidate he thinks is horrible.  We know where you stand, nothing is going to change that, and reading articles by others explaining their refusal to support just has me baffled. 

Finally, let it be known if Donald Trump were the Democrat nominee, I wouldn't cast a vote for President either.

Edit:  By "turning yourself into a lemming" I mean those who would vote for Trump despite believing he is "horrible".  I don't think Trump supporters, or Trump voters who don't think he would be horrible POTUS, are lemmings in the definition I, and maybe mikec, are using the word.  I could see FIB heading this way so I had to make that more clear.
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I thought I had said, probably more times than blue cares for, that I will not vote for Trump, nor will I vote for Hillary.


Mike, You shouldn't vote if you don't like the candidates........This talk of not voting for the Republican is a vote for Hillary is nonsense, IMO......I have zero respect for anyone saying it......

If I don't vote for Trump, I won't vote either.......Again, I don't give two hoots about what anyone thinks about that!
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Dewey - I think you misinterpret what Republicans who say they'll hold their nose and vote for Trump are saying.

They say he's not ideal, and some of them say maybe even some shade of dangerous (slightly to very, depending upon their opinion). 

However, many of them say that Clinton is catastrophic, and that she is well worse than Trump.  Therefore, they will vote for Trump and hope for the best, in an attempt to keep Clinton away, which would be really bad.

So, they are not lemmings.  They are making a conscious choice to vote against Hillary.

I believe many on the Dem side will vote for Hillary because they are told to.  Those are two different things.

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Dewey - I think you misinterpret what Republicans who say they'll hold their nose and vote for Trump are saying.


The Republican party is in a sad state.......The party, itself, is campaigning against it's leading candidate......The corruption in this party is unprecedented.......

I really do hope Trump runs as an Independent.......I really, really do!
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First, this is absolutely not true.  It is the fantasy narrative that trumpies want to believe.

Second, there are currently two leading candidates. 

Third, campaigns are about selecting a candidate.  People will disagree during the course of the campaign on who should be selected.

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The party, itself, is campaigning against it's leading candidate


Dewey

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Dewey - I think you misinterpret what Republicans who say they'll hold their nose and vote for Trump are saying.

They say he's not ideal, and some of them say maybe even some shade of dangerous (slightly to very, depending upon their opinion). 

However, many of them say that Clinton is catastrophic, and that she is well worse than Trump.  Therefore, they will vote for Trump and hope for the best, in an attempt to keep Clinton away, which would be really bad.

So, they are not lemmings.  They are making a conscious choice to vote against Hillary.

I believe many on the Dem side will vote for Hillary because they are told to.  Those are two different things.



Democrats, who vote for Democrats they find to be horrible, are lemmings.  Republicans, who vote for Republicans they find to be horrible, are lemmings.  An attempt to spin a distinction between the two is little more than searching out another "double-standard".


PS:  I think it's a good thing the Republican Party is campaigning against Trump and I have no idea why mikec would deny such is happening.


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FIB - My post had nothing to do with anyone else but mikec.  Nice try though.  Those trying to convince mikec to vote "Trump" appear to be putting him into a very difficult place.  Maybe they should take mikec at his word.

Edit:  Before I'm corrected on complete accuracy, my post was also aimed at those who are trying to get him to re-think his position.

Edit II:  I'm also not implying that was the intention of this particular thread.  This article supports those like mikec.


The clarity here is something to behold.

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I'm not really sure what this is supposed to mean.  DWS is firmly in control of the Democrat party, and is calling all of the shots.  This whole HRC campaign has been orchestrated by DWS for years.

As for Trump - I resent people saying "conservatives have to vote for Trump".  Wrong, they do not.

I saw Megan McCain on the 5 yesterday.  She was being pushed by Eric Bowling to back Trump "for the good of the party".  After awhile, she finally got pissed, and told Eric that Trump had demeaned the torture that her father endured, and has not apologized.  She said she would sit out rather than vote for Trump.

That is but one thing.  The man is not even a Republican, much less a Conservative.   Add to that he's a liar, and a don't know why anyone would vote for him.  Well, I do - "stick it to the man, the establishment, or whatever boogey man I imagine."   That is stupid.

Clinton is also a flip-flopping liar, except she has American blood on her hands.  She is worse than trump.

I won't be voting for either one.




As for "blood", do not forget she and her hubby possibly with Vince Foster's, as well.





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