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Don't make me go Gangnam Style dance on you, Don Cheto version.
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Well, said, Steve.

For me, the most important part of this is that those who feel as she does have an outlet and someone qualified to listen, and get whatever support they need.  I've seen people at various points on the resolution spectrum, extending from simple pointers on time or relationship management, to more extensive talk therapy, to medication.  And the stressor is not always time management.  While there might be simple solutions, there may not be.  What I really dislike is the shaming and stigmatization that leads to no communication, no help, and escalating problems.
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Society is crumbling with the likes of some of you people.............

ChinMusic, I'll post whatever I want to post............What you think has no bearing, whatsoever, on it..........Just so you know..........

For the others, do some research on drug rehab centers popping up all over the place...........It's really big business..........They put a lot of 'em out in the country-side because they're so big and they're building more every day.............And, they don't rehab people..........They just make a lot of money for their owners............So many people just enter one, get out, then re-enter another............It's a deadly cycle.............

A lack of self-esteem isn't a mental-illness...........And, drugs only make the situation worse............Many times, the lack of self-esteem comes from using drugs in the first place - marijuana and prescription opiates..............From there, it goes on to heroin and meth..............With crystal meth, the withdrawals are so bad the user would rather kill themselves than go through it.............The suicides grow in number every day............Life becomes meaning to 'em...............And, they become very angry..............If some of you people would experience a user going through withdrawals, your eyes would be opened............. 

Control your own mind - don't let drugs control it...............



And I will post as I see fit.


You clearly have no personal experience in this area.  One example - lack of self-esteem certainly can be an indicator of deeper mental health issues.  It is often linked to clinical depression which in many cases is simply a result of a chemical imbalance in serotonin.  Produced by the human body and responsible for feelings of happiness and well being, serotonin levels and the associated depression symptoms can be effectively controlled through the use highly effective, non-addictive, medications (DRUGS if you prefer), properly prescribed and monitored by a qualified physician. 

Having an opinion on every topic you see doesn't mean you need to share it.   Why don't you just sit this one out? 


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ChinMusic, there's no doubt you are an enabler..........

If enablers, like yourself, would sit on the sidelines, I wouldn't have to expose your foolish irrational reasoning..........

Trying to stay happy, as you call it, by taking drugs is a downward spiral from which there, often, is no return.............I wish someone would take you to one of the drug-rehab country clubs that are popping-up all over the country-side.............Then, you would get to witness what your support of enabling these people has done to these people and their families..........Go on visiting day and see the hollow faces from hopelessness in the faces of parents, brothers and sisters who are lost trying to figure out what happened...............And, just maybe they'll let you witness what the nastiness and hopelessness of the withdrawals from your enabling looks like................Life means nothing to a meth-user withdrawing, they know what's coming and they'd prefer to die than experience withdrawals again................All they want is more drug so they can escape the horror they know is coming and can be happy again, nothing else matters.........And, if you're in the way of that happening, they'll think nothing of killing you....................If you ever get to see it, you'll never forget it, I can assure you............ 

And, contrary to what uninformed and enabling folk like yourself think, these addicts never heal............The lucky ones just come to understand they must have someone watching over them for the rest of their life................     


Chin Music, anytime you post in support of the drug-pushers, I will answer..........Count on it...........
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It is ridiculous of the posters against medication for mental health.  It is widely accepted to have medications for headaches, bodyaches ect.....  Very few would try to pray away pain!!!
Posters have verified her main message that a HUGE STIGMA goes with mental health issues!!
Most addictions including heavy alcohol use are a crutch for mental health issues,  Many D1 athletes participate in heavy alcohol use to cope.  They would be must better off in their life if they seeked counseling help.   General student body is also in this same Stigma issue and utilizes alcohol as an outlet which can turn out bad for them.
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Mental Health issues college players have is because they play to many games in the summer. They don’t rest their bodies!!! 
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It is ridiculous of the posters against medication for mental health.  It is widely accepted to have medications for headaches, bodyaches ect.....  Very few would try to pray away pain!!!


I must say, anyone using the term "ridiculous" and posts this, shouldn't use that word, anymore, IMO..........


Search for the answer to mental health all you want.... ..........But, taking a drug to have a sense of well-being is not the answer.............
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ChinMusic, there's no doubt you are an enabler..........

If enablers, like yourself, would sit on the sidelines, I wouldn't have to expose your foolish irrational reasoning..........

Trying to stay happy, as you call it, by taking drugs is a downward spiral from which there, often, is no return.............I wish someone would take you to one of the drug-rehab country clubs that are popping-up all over the country-side.............Then, you would get to witness what your support of enabling these people has done to these people and their families..........Go on visiting day and see the hollow faces from hopelessness in the faces of parents, brothers and sisters who are lost trying to figure out what happened...............And, just maybe they'll let you witness what the nastiness and hopelessness of the withdrawals from your enabling looks like................Life means nothing to a meth-user withdrawing, they know what's coming and they'd prefer to die than experience withdrawals again................All they want is more drug so they can escape the horror they know is coming and can be happy again, nothing else matters.........And, if you're in the way of that happening, they'll think nothing of killing you....................If you ever get to see it, you'll never forget it, I can assure you............ 

And, contrary to what uninformed and enabling folk like yourself think, these addicts never heal............The lucky ones just come to understand they must have someone watching over them for the rest of their life................     


Chin Music, anytime you post in support of the drug-pushers, I will answer..........Count on it...........


Did you even read what I posted?  Have you spent even five minutes researching clinical depression and the PHYSICAL / BIOLOGICAL causes?  You are an ignorant fool and I pray to God you have not reproduced.  Stay away from young people altogether.  Your ideas are poison.

No one is on here advocating drug abuse you uneducated hick.
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I can see I hit a nerve with you, ChinMusic............I'm glad...........

The madness of doctors, and people like you, enabling this victim mentality needs to stop..........Doctors do it for the money...........

You, on the other hand, do it out of aloofness.............You will continue to promote take a pill and feel good.......And, I'll continue to promote seek the real solution..............

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There are mentally ill people in every endeavor. Ok some play D1 softball, most don't. Medication does work and to ignore it would be foolish. Athletic departments should try to help those with mental issues as much as they do those with ACL tears.
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Problem is, if anyone is mentally-ill, those telling the others they're mentally-ill are probably the ones who actually are...........

I have a friend who had a cocaine and alcohol problem, tried to kill his wife and went to prison for a while and went through re-hab several times and was finally told he was mentally-ill.............They even put him in a nut-house institution and put him on feel-good pills when they let him out................He actually believed these people until I convinced him he was more sane than they are.............

Now, he and his ex-wife are close and those pills went in the garbage where they belong..............Any of you people know anything about the Alcoholics Anonymous program?.............No pills or feel-good medication needed............And, that program is taught in these re-hab country clubs............Most addicts reject their teaching and are in-and-out of these money-makers............But, those who do listen, go home and get off all the feel-good stuff.............


I have no problem spreading the message of staying away from any softball program who doesn't aggressively fight against their players taking anything to make 'em feel better..............Marijuana, alcohol, prescription pills, and all other feel-good junk included............The mentality, itself, of taking any of that stuff is poison............
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I can see I hit a nerve with you, ChinMusic............I'm glad...........

The madness of doctors, and people like you, enabling this victim mentality needs to stop..........Doctors do it for the money...........

You, on the other hand, do it out of aloofness.............You will continue to promote take a pill and feel good.......And, I'll continue to promote seek the real solution..............



Yes you did strike a nerve.  I take a great deal of personal offense to your backwoods ignorant comments.   I have personally dealt with clinical depression for over 15 years.  It is a well documented, and frequently occurring side effect of the life saving heart surgery I had.  After surviving the nearly fatal heart issue, I slowly slipped from a fun loving parent, spouse, friend, co-worker, and child to a very rude, negative, emotional time bomb despite having a wonderful life from all outward appearances.  At my spouses urging, and in fact demanding, I sought help.  Thank God I did.  After trying multiple anti-depressants over a six month period, I finally found one that worked very well for me.  My depression remains under control thanks to a wonderful doctor and what I and my family consider to be a miraculous medication.  

And being the aloof enabler that I am, I also have taken and continue to take various medications for the heart condition, which by all accounts has helped keep me alive for the past 15 years.  Because of that, my kids still have both parents, my spouse still has a soul mate, and my aging parents haven't had to bury a child.  So, walk a mile in my shoes before you choose to judge me and others like me. 

For the record, I do not smoke pot or meth.  I don't snort coke or shoot heroin.  I don't abuse any sort of opiates.  I have no addictions and I have never been in any rehab facility.  Again I say, you have no idea what you are talking about unless you have been there, lived it or have had a family member who has.  

Like you, I hope I have struck a nerve and that you feel like a total jerk for your insensitive an uninformed comments.  

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My daughter worked a lot with sports psychologist.   The school had them and made them available, free of charge.  It was never that she needed them.  She just needed to be better at 'getting the f' after it' regardless of what happened.  Her talent was stronger than her 'get after it' attitude.  So the stronger she got in getting after it, the better she got.

Honestly, I looked at it like tutoring.  

The school makes tutors available free of charge.  We encouraged her to take advantage of the tutors, since they were free.  She could have easily gotten through the coursework and gotten the grades on her own.  But with the time crunch pressure being constant on D1 athlete, it was way easier to use a tutor for harder problems, and get that time back.   School sends a bill for tutoring 'time used', listed as a benefit.  $75k in free tutoring, great grades, great time playing sports, and was able to get a little time to hang out with friends.

She could have done all the sports psychologist stuff she needed without any help.  But they offered a viable shortcut, and taking advantage, freed up time. 

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Yes you did strike a nerve.  I take a great deal of personal offense to your backwoods ignorant comments.   I have personally dealt with clinical depression for over 15 years.  It is a well documented, and frequently occurring side effect of the life saving heart surgery I had.  After surviving the nearly fatal heart issue, I slowly slipped from a fun loving parent, spouse, friend, co-worker, and child to a very rude, negative, emotional time bomb despite having a wonderful life from all outward appearances.  At my spouses urging, and in fact demanding, I sought help.  Thank God I did.  After trying multiple anti-depressants over a six month period, I finally found one that worked very well for me.  My depression remains under control thanks to a wonderful doctor and what I and my family consider to be a miraculous medication.  

And being the aloof enabler that I am, I also have taken and continue to take various medications for the heart condition, which by all accounts has helped keep me alive for the past 15 years.  Because of that, my kids still have both parents, my spouse still has a soul mate, and my aging parents haven't had to bury a child.  So, walk a mile in my shoes before you choose to judge me and others like me. 

For the record, I do not smoke pot or meth.  I don't snort coke or shoot heroin.  I don't abuse any sort of opiates.  I have no addictions and I have never been in any rehab facility.  Again I say, you have no idea what you are talking about unless you have been there, lived it or have had a family member who has.  

Like you, I hope I have struck a nerve and that you feel like a total jerk for your insensitive an uninformed comments.  



You're engaging with someone who.......pretentiously..............and............obnoxiously...............uses......periods......to......make.....ridiculous......points.....

........and......who......has......lots.....of......time......on.....his........hands.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................

He's also go his own problems, having had a bad encounter with a psychologist at some point in the past.   (Either that, or some other inexplicable bias against them.)  Logic is not his strong suit, and he'll not change his mind.

Besides, he's not convincing anyone here.



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You're engaging with someone who.......pretentiously..............and............obnoxiously...............uses......periods......to......make.....ridiculous......points.....

........and......who......has......lots.....of......time......on.....his........hands.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................

He's also go his own problems, having had a bad encounter with a psychologist at some point in the past.   (Either that, or some other inexplicable bias against them.)  Logic is not his strong suit, and he'll not change his mind.

Besides, he's not convincing anyone here.





Excellent points. Thank you!
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My daughter worked a lot with sports psychologist.   The school had them and made them available, free of charge.  It was never that she needed them.  She just needed to be better at 'getting the f' after it' regardless of what happened.  Her talent was stronger than her 'get after it' attitude.  So the stronger she got in getting after it, the better she got.

Honestly, I looked at it like tutoring.  

The school makes tutors available free of charge.  We encouraged her to take advantage of the tutors, since they were free.  She could have easily gotten through the coursework and gotten the grades on her own.  But with the time crunch pressure being constant on D1 athlete, it was way easier to use a tutor for harder problems, and get that time back.   School sends a bill for tutoring 'time used', listed as a benefit.  $75k in free tutoring, great grades, great time playing sports, and was able to get a little time to hang out with friends.

She could have done all the sports psychologist stuff she needed without any help.  But they offered a viable shortcut, and taking advantage, freed up time. 


I'm with you on this. Similar experience and opinion
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You're engaging with someone who.......pretentiously..............and............obnoxiously...............uses......periods......to......make.....ridiculous......points.....

........and......who......has......lots.....of......time......on.....his........hands.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................

He's also go his own problems, having had a bad encounter with a psychologist at some point in the past.   (Either that, or some other inexplicable bias against them.)  Logic is not his strong suit, and he'll not change his mind.

Besides, he's not convincing anyone here.



You know that old line about how you know he is lying?
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You know that old line about how you know he is lying?



[rofl]
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ChinMusic, your victim stance won't work on me............Here's why..........

You went through nothing I haven't experienced, myself...........I'll explain.........

I had triple by-pass heart surgery in 1995..........Six days later I was home recovering, so I thought, and had a heart-attack, thrown in the back floor board of a car, brought to the emergency room and had two stents installed in my arteries..........Two of my by-passes had collapsed and stopped working.............Was experiencing chest pains after the procedure and stayed in intensive care for a week...........I was wired and watched like a hawk............I remember asking my nurse to make sure I was being monitored at night so as not to let me die at night alone...........Family didn't want to be around me.............I, also, turned into that person you described...........

Now, I'll make this story short........Since then, I've had two more heart-attacks and six more stents installed in my arteries for a total of eight.............I've had doctors put me on, and taken, Xanax, valium and more..........I was an absolute zombie............I still take the heart medications that all of us by-pass folks take.........

The depression you talk about is old hat to me..........I went through it and have seen others go through it since.........I felt what happened to me when I wouldn't take the anxiety pills after having taken them for a while................It was a terrible withdrawal and I knew I had to stop taking 'em.............I threw 'em away and took charge of my health, both physical and mental, since that very day............That was the day I quit feeling sorry for myself and realized my destiny was in my control.............And, I've counseled quite a few others who have gone through this surgery, and who are about to, and helped them to do the same...........I still do............
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You know that old line about how you know he is lying?


His ellipse are moving
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ChinMusic, your victim stance won't work on me............Here's why..........

You went through nothing I haven't experienced, myself...........I'll explain.........

I had triple by-pass heart surgery in 1995..........Six days later I was home recovering, so I thought, and had a heart-attack, thrown in the back floor board of a car, brought to the emergency room and had two stents installed in my arteries..........Two of my by-passes had collapsed and stopped working.............Was experiencing chest pains after the procedure and stayed in intensive care for a week...........I was wired and watched like a hawk............I remember asking my nurse to make sure I was being monitored at night so as not to let me die at night alone...........Family didn't want to be around me.............I, also, turned into that person you described...........

Now, I'll make this story short........Since then, I've had two more heart-attacks and six more stents installed in my arteries for a total of eight.............I've had doctors put me on, and taken, Xanax, valium and more..........I was an absolute zombie............I still take the heart medications that all of us by-pass folks take.........

The depression you talk about is old hat to me..........I went through it and have seen others go through it since.........I felt what happened to me when I wouldn't take the anxiety pills after having taken them for a while................It was a terrible withdrawal and I knew I had to stop taking 'em.............I threw 'em away and took charge of my health, both physical and mental, since that very day............That was the day I quit feeling sorry for myself and realized my destiny was in my control.............And, I've counseled quite a few others who have gone through this surgery, and who are about to, and helped them to do the same...........I still do............


Victim - no. Survivor - yes. Blessed and thankful for modern medicine.

And despite your experience you are still spewing your judgemental venom. What works for one, may not work for another, but hey, you clearly have an inside track. Peace out, I'm done.

You're still taking those satanic heart meds??? Why not just "get control" of your heart issues? "Counselor, heal thine self!" Lol!
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Nice post (#87), sftbllhasbeen.

<< It absolutely amazes me how many of you on here are completely dismissing this young lady's situation.  Calling her "mentally weak", narcissistic, needy, etc.  Have any of you played competitive D1, or hell, any collegiate sports in your life?  Do any of you have any idea the amount of pressure that is put on these student athletes not just in college but in high level club ball as well?  These things have only gotten more competitive and pressure packed over the years.  I'm surprised the number of student athletes that have anxiety and some form of depression aren't higher!  

There are some people who just put more undo pressure on themselves than is necessary and they then have trouble dealing with that pressure.  This then turns into anxiety and it snowballs from there.  Sometimes people need help from an outside source to help them come up with ways of calming themselves down when they do get anxious.  There are many different ways that can be done whether it's taking a pill, talking through situations with people, positive self talk, breathing exercises, etc the list goes on and on.  I don't think it is right to be bashing on a young lady who is trying to bring light to an issue that every student athletes deals with at some point or another in their career.  Some deal with it in their own way or they don't deal with it at all.  This is how she is dealing with it and by her putting herself out there and letting other student athletes know that they are not alone and that it is okay to ask for help, well I think we should be applauding her instead of tearing her down.

The problem with the term mental illness is that everybody associates that with schizophrenia, multiple personality disorder, etc. especially when it comes to anxiety.  We need to stop that stigma and educate ourselves that there are many different forms of mental illness and not confuse that with "mental weakness." >> 
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And another very nice post (#89) from vol52.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us, Steve.


<< As a college professor I have seen a lot in 39 years of teaching.  I have also known my share of athletes.  Most do quite well and survive, if not succeed. The softball team where I teach is a successful program both on the field and off -  academically at the top of the conference, and two years ago tops in the nation.  But athletes don't own the market for students who feel overwhelmed and need counseling at some point in their college career.  Mental/emotional problems happen to a variety of students for a variety of reasons.  When I can help, I do.  But I often ask a student "are you getting counseling for this situation?" because I am not an expert. Medication?  Obviously needed in some situations, but I hope only as a last resort.

Perception isn't always reality.  A student feeling overwhelmed isn't always due to an over demanding or overwhelming situation. But at that moment in time it IS their reality. I had a student (non athlete) go on suicide watch for a couple of days this spring right before finals.  This student is capable of good work, but began to procrastinate until everything piled up. Rather than work through it, panic set in, and we could all tell that she wasn't looking and acting like her normal self. She is in a much better place now. 

Regarding the student presenting the TED talk....1.  As mentioned, perception is not always reality. She is not in class 10 hours a day, so from her comments, it appears she still doesn't have a good sense about class time and the hours spent in-between. A little counseling concerning time management might be in order.  2. As has been suggested by a couple of people hear, she could elect to end her career, since her education should be the more important factor in this scenario.  As she stated, volleyball is my life, but reality suggests that that won't be the case in a couple of years, and most athletes need to know this.  Unlike Bret Favre, most folks realize that there is life after sports! A lot of athletes don't play their entire four years for a variety of reasons...most of them good, I think. I hope she can come to understand that, as a human being, she is much more than the sum of her career as an athlete. Having said all this, if she has gained control of her life and can finish her career, good for her! 3. I agree that her own research is worth noting, but it is hardly scientific. That doesn't mean that athletes shouldn't be asking for help if they are feeling overwhelmed. I'm just not convinced that all the scenarios she is describing are quite as pervasive as she suggests.

Some folks here are planting themselves at either end of the pendulum.  I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. >> - Steve Rhodes
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And another one (#92). Well said.

<< For me, the most important part of this is that those who feel as she does have an outlet and someone qualified to listen, and get whatever support they need.  I've seen people at various points on the resolution spectrum, extending from simple pointers on time or relationship management, to more extensive talk therapy, to medication.  And the stressor is not always time management.  While there might be simple solutions, there may not be.  What I really dislike is the shaming and stigmatization that leads to no communication, no help, and escalating problems. >> (Hobbes)

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<< Trying to stay happy, as you call it, by taking drugs is a downward spiral from which there, often, is no return.............I wish someone would take you to one of the drug-rehab country clubs that are popping-up all over the country-side.............Then, you would get to witness what your support of enabling these people has done to these people and their families..........Go on visiting day and see the hollow faces from hopelessness in the faces of parents, brothers and sisters who are lost trying to figure out what happened...............And, just maybe they'll let you witness what the nastiness and hopelessness of the withdrawals from your enabling looks like................Life means nothing to a meth-user withdrawing, they know what's coming and they'd prefer to die than experience withdrawals again................All they want is more drug so they can escape the horror they know is coming and can be happy again, nothing else matters.........And, if you're in the way of that happening, they'll think nothing of killing you....................If you ever get to see it, you'll never forget it, I can assure you... >> (bluedog)

bluedog - You seem to be making this HUGE leap from a young lady who has decided to try to take some medically prescribed meds in an effort to help her get back on track... 

to meth users who will think nothing of killing anyone who might get in their way of getting to their next high. 

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I don't think everyone who tries some prescribed meds to help them cope through a tough period... 
becomes a savage meth head who will kill anyone who happens to be in their way. 

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There just might be some times when some prescribed meds CAN BE BENEFICIAL.

How can you honestly say (or believe) that they NEVER WORK to be a benefit FOR SOME PEOPLE..?
You cannot possibly know that they NEVER WORK for anyone.

You are basing your belief simply on your own personal journey.
Everyone is not exactly the same as you. 

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Now I have no personal experience (with myself or my family) with any of these meds... 
but... I have a very hard time believing that NO ONE EVER benefits from them. 
There seems to be quite a bit of evidence that SOME PEOPLE do, in fact, benefit from their use. 

To argue that ALL meds - are ALWAYS bad... 
just seems like a pretty naive position to hold. 
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People such as ChinMusic took a way out of being uncomfortable that lets pills control him.........His choice...........There's nothing funny about that............

The meds I take don't affect, or control, my mind.........And, frankly, I don't have to take 'em...........I'm on the Esselstyn diet which is vegan plus and takes dieting discipline even further..............

Taking control for yourself is what it's all about..........You want peace-of-mind, take control...........Then, you'll have it..........
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To argue that ALL meds - are ALWAYS bad... 
just seems like a pretty naive position to hold. 


If they control your mind - they're bad news..........And, that young lady needs to know that...........
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People such as ChinMusic took a way out of being uncomfortable that lets pills control him.........His choice...........There's nothing funny about that............

The meds I take don't affect, or control, my mind.........And, frankly, I don't have to take 'em...........I'm on the Esselstyn diet which is vegan plus and takes dieting discipline even further..............

Taking control for yourself is what it's all about..........You want peace-of-mind, take control...........Then, you'll have it..........


Rationalization of your own actions.  Classic mental illness.
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ChinMusic, you're not mentally-ill............You've just been convinced you are, that's all............

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Mental health issues aren't real - typical shaming/stigmatizing.
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