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keepinitreal

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"What did Obama know and when did he know it?"
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uwApoligist

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It shows a direct link from the DNC to spying on the Trump campaign.
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Originally Posted by uwApoligist
It shows a direct link from the DNC to spying on the Trump campaign.


with help from a sitting president's administration

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woody

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with help from a sitting president's administration


And the appointed heads of the DOJ, the FBI, and some of their underlings.

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Will_I_Wynn

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One can only imagine the response if Democrats were condemning the FBI in the manner we see today.  The Right would ask "Why do Democrats hate law enforcement officials so much?" 
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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just keep on offending people and then looking dumbfounded when they sometimes lash out.


uwApoligist

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No one is condemning the FBI.  Just those in the FBI that committed illegal acts.  Americans are not dips1ts as your statement surmises.
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Americans are mad that Democrats conspired to use government agencies under their control in an attempt to alter the election. They then doubled down, and attempted to nullify the results of the election they lost.
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Will_I_Wynn

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Republicans called for investigations of Russian interference and a Republican asst AG appointed a Republican special prosecutor to investigate.  A republican FBI Director released a letter saying he was reopening an investigation into Hillary Clinton days before the election.  A Republican candidate for President told the American people his opponent was a criminal and would soon be locked up.  A Republican Presidential candidate asked Russians for help and campaign members met with Russians who appeared willing.  This spin that Democrats somehow tried to influence and/or change the results of a Presidential election are unfounded and likely ignored by most Americans.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just keep on offending people and then looking dumbfounded when they sometimes lash out.


woody

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The DNC and the Obama DOJ, and the FBI conspired to obtain a FISA warrant, and wiretapped an opposition political campaign to try and affect an election.

You cannot spin that away.

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Will_I_Wynn

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That's an accusation by the Right which I believe is untrue.

Listening to a debate moments ago, the FISA judge was apparently told the dossier research was funded or provided by a major political party.  If the particular Party was important to name, the warrant would not have been issued.  No doubt the Judge determined it could have been Democrat research and he still issued the warrant.  It was apparently irrelevant.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just keep on offending people and then looking dumbfounded when they sometimes lash out.


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And then, after issuing the initial warrant based on the dossier, then allowed the FBI to renew the warrant using the same evidence, even after it was declared unreliable, and unverified by the head of the FBI? Keep spinning it.
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Will_I_Wynn

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That's all conjecture from the Right and, to my knowledge, nobody ever said the dossier was unreliable.  It was described as unverified.

Edit:  Spin is when you use the wrong language.  Yesterday the spin used was saying unverified meant discredited.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just keep on offending people and then looking dumbfounded when they sometimes lash out.


uwApoligist

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spin is when you try to pretend that it was ok to present salacious and unverified evidence for the basis of a FISA warrant to spy on an opposing political party.  Spin that.
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I asked that question yesterday.  The FBI is given information (dossier) that Page is meeting with Russians.  The FBI has previously investigated Page for Russian contact.  Assume the FBI also has information that Page is traveling to Russia.  Is this enough for a FISA warrant?  I don't know what's in the application so I couldn't pretend to say anything was OK or not.
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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

Just keep on offending people and then looking dumbfounded when they sometimes lash out.


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You mean the 2013 investigation of Page, or the investigation used in 2016 to attack an opposition political campaign?
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Bullet 3 is the most egregious and problematic for  FBI/DOJ.


Heard today on Fox that the source was mentioned, but masked. That would render that a moot point. If not, it was at the least referred to as from a opposing political source. The actual source should be of little consequence.

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keepinitreal

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dewy studying up today isn't he after he left his studies behind for the last 2 years and crossed his fingers for collusion.  The collusion was the DNC and he's not skipping and dancing now talking about Trump collusion because there wasn't any.  Awesome to see dewy, will and huey about to go through another name change metamorphosis, just awesome
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Will_I_Wynn 

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The fact remains Republicans have determined we need these investigations, Republicans are appointing the investigators, and the special prosecutor is a Republican.  If Democrats need to be investigated, Republicans will decide that as well.  There is no Democrat power to be had and Republicans are making these calls.  The suggestion the Democrats are doing anything sinister is mostly bogus, imo.  They're subject to investigation if they step out of line. 
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uwApoligist 

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Not when Obama was President, apparently. 
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I'm more getting a sense that willie wynn is dewey is a F'n loser. 

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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Heard today on Fox that the source was mentioned, but masked. That would render that a moot point. If not, it was at the least referred to as from a opposing political source. The actual source should be of little consequence.


to dumbphucks like you it would be, partisan pig.  dewy moans and groans that trump invited the russians to spy, little consequence you say, they already were at the behest of the DNC

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
uwApoligist

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They have everyone's communication.  The FBI made it clear they knew Steele was working with both the FBI and the DNC through FusionGPS.  They have at length testimony on both of these facts.

They knew there was no FISA warrant without Steele dossier.  McCabe testified to that in December 2017.  

There are no masked sources.
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They knew there was no FISA warrant without Steele dossier.  McCabe testified to that in December 2017.  

There are no masked sources.


Both of these allegations have been refuted by dems on the intelligence committee. Won't know for sure until the transcripts are released. Maybe never. Heard pubic senator this morning say the McCabe testimony you speak of was "maybe not in those exact words". That means it could have been in virtually any words. Heard about masking on Fox this morning. How can you be sure there was none?

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Libs are all about supporting the sanctity of the FBI and DOJ. Funny they weren’t so keen on the process when they went full scorched earth policy against Ken Starr and his investigation.
Truly the party of opportunity. Blowing with the political winds without a rudder.

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Why does fresh obsess over men's pubic regions? He's GAF.
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keepinitreal

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He is very pubey, kinda strange but he is the father of KPI's gay GF. The gay fans think about that stuff more than the rest of us
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Fresh said........
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Both of these allegations have been refuted by dems on the intelligence committee. 


Do you mean the un-intelligence committee?
Fresh

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No, the intelligence committee. Your committee is still out for lunch.
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
keepinitreal

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Since the freshyturd likes to quote Trey Gowdy


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/4/trey-gowdy-says-fbi-concealed-clinton-role-steele-/

EX:

“They could have easily said it was the DNC and Hillary Clinton. That would have been really easy,” Mr. Gowdy told CBS’s “Face the Nation.” “It took longer to explain it the way they did than if they just came right out and said, ‘Hillary Clinton for America and DNC paid for it.’ But they didn’t do that.”

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
uwApoligist

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Dershowitz has been screaming about the Mueller investigation for sometime.  What statute is Mueller pursuing.


"The entire enterprise of appointing a special counsel is misguided."
"Many Americans, though certainly not all, have also lost faith in the investigation being conducted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Mueller himself continues to be held in high regard by most Americans, but many of his underlings are widely regarded as partisan. "  
"We, the American people, have the right to know whether the application deliberately failed to disclose to the FISA court that the so-called “Steele dossier” was commissioned by political operatives seeking dirt on a political opponent. "

The overarching problem is over-classification.  Classification should never be allowed for political benefit.

 http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/372095-alan-dershowitz-on-the-nunes-memo-republican-truth-and-democratic-truth
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