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mikec

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I had forgotten about Trump's brilliant remarks about McCain.  Even if you dislike McCain's politics, you can not deny that he serves better treatment than that for his military service.

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How can you forget about McCain?.......His dad was a Navy Admiral.....Little John was groomed to be a politician from day one.....He has always run his mouth as much as does Trump.....He deserves the respect he gives - very little......
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Disrespect for anyone that served is lame. Disrespect for someone that served in combat and was injured and captured is being a self-entitled bully. 
You do not have to agree with someone or like their politics, sports team, etc. but you don't disrespect the fact they gave their time and risk their life to serve this country and protect the freedoms we enjoy.

McCain groomed? While McCain was serving Trump was getting a draft deferment..then another...then another (5 total over the years) then he graduated college and got a medically unfit to serve deferment.
While McCain was serving, Trump was being served cocktails and the high life. He was groomed. He was born into money and started working for his dad right out of college. Nothing wrong with that...if I were wealthy businessman I would want my daughters working the business and keeping it going. Makes business sense. Instead I was an athlete and they played softball in school then college.
Father's using their fame, money, influence, etc. to help their kids or groom them is nothing new and nothing bad. And in this case both dads did it. Difference is Mccain served our country and Trump was being served at the casinos and playboy mansion at that time. Good for him but he cannot knock someone's military service time when he avoided it over and over and over again. Insult mccain for being a rino and horrible president candidate...but not mock him for being captured while serving a war you used power and influence to avoid taking part in.

In football game against army, navy or air force guys will insult them, curse them, etc...but never diss them about military...and afterwards shake their hands and thank them for serving.
Getting into a argument with a veteran and needing to insult them about it is a punk move. What next? Insult policemen for getting shot?. A fireman for getting burned?




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"While McCain was serving Trump was getting a draft deferment..then another...then another (5 total over the years) then he graduated college and got a medically unfit to serve deferment." No different than at least one high profile 'reader' here. What's the point of speaking on his deferment? Does that disqualify one on speaking on military and veteran affairs?  Or from speaking on veterans themselves?
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There are a whole lot of Republican politicians and pundits criticizing Donald Trump on camera.  If he were the GOP nominee, the negative commercials that will air, using video of Republicans, will be endless.  What will a Mr. Erickson (Slate) or Mr. Hewitt (talk radio), to name two, tell their followers if and when Trump is the nominee? 

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Another hypothetical, as much as I like Mr. Trump, he will not be the nominee.  He needs to stay out of the traps like the one set by Fox News, he's too smart for the job of POTUS
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On that we'll agree.  While I also agree with PDad that Fox wanted to be seen as balanced and asked very tough questions, it's my opinion Fox is going to do whatever they can to make certain Mr. Trump is not the GOP nominee.  Personally, I don't think it's really necessary for them to work quite so hard because I doubt he has a chance. 
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So why play make believe with far fetched hypotheticals and more of your rabbitholes?  Get to the facts man, wake up.
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Originally Posted by Dewey
There are a whole lot of Republican politicians and pundits criticizing Donald Trump on camera.  If he were the GOP nominee, the negative commercials that will air, using video of Republicans, will be endless.  What will a Mr. Erickson (Slate) or Mr. Hewitt (talk radio), to name two, tell their followers if and when Trump is the nominee? 



Happens all the time. I remember when a democratic candidates campaign alleged another candidates campaign was racist. They came together at the end and even ended up working together. This is just politics man, it's not personal.
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Are you suggesting if Trump is the nominee, Mr. Erickson will change his mind and allow him in the same room as his daughter?  I'm not so sure but I could be wrong.
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Since this is the Megyn Kelly thread, here is some Megyn Kelly news -

- She will address the Trump dust up tonight on her show

- Fox Honcho Roger Ailes (?) says he has talked to Trump and everything is resolved.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey
There are a whole lot of Republican politicians and pundits criticizing Donald Trump on camera.  If he were the GOP nominee, the negative commercials that will air, using video of Republicans, will be endless.  What will a Mr. Erickson (Slate) or Mr. Hewitt (talk radio), to name two, tell their followers if and when Trump is the nominee? 



Erick Erickson is not slate - he is the owner of RedState.com.

I listened to his radio show tonight, and he explained the whole dust up.  He also said that he will support the Republican candidate, no matter who it is.  He said if it's Trump, he will gladly go vote for him.
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Are you suggesting if Trump is the nominee, Mr. Erickson will change his mind and allow him in the same room as his daughter?  I'm not so sure but I could be wrong.


You are wrong.  Stick to your liberals.
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Obama and the Clintons ended up in the same room - and he alleged far worse....
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Fhoenix, I tend to think of McCain as a traitor.....He has turned his back on all veterans and is up to his eyeballs in the VA mess.....He had Congress seal the records of the POW's in Vietnam.....It's called the McCain cover-up and there's lots of information that a search will uncover for you.....He's got dirt all over him....Do the search....



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Bluedog - what's the conspiracy theory for why the Dodgers haven't won the World Series for so long?

And hey, what ever became of the top secret DNA test the extraterrestrial aliens did on Trayvon Martin? Did it match Obama? Or are the results sealed by secret court executive decree and safely buried in a vault 30 miles beneath the Rothschilds private nuclear bunker?
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Fhoenix, I tend to think of McCain as a traitor.....He has turned his back on all veterans and is up to his eyeballs in the VA mess.....He had Congress seal the records of the POW's in Vietnam.....It's called the McCain cover-up and there's lots of information that a search will uncover for you.....He's got dirt all over him....Do the search....





McCain does not walk the talk. Please do the search. He has been bought. Sad to say, he was a good man.

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Now let me go watch Megyn on my dvr
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

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"Donald Trump and I spoke today," Ailes said in a statement obtained by CNNMoney. "We discussed our concerns, and I again expressed my confidence in Megyn Kelly. She is a brilliant journalist and I support her 100 percent."

Ailes continued: "I assured him that we will continue to cover this campaign with fairness & balance. We had a blunt but cordial conversation and the air has been cleared."

Kelly briefly acknowledged the controversy on her 9 p.m. program -- and then moved on. "I certainly will not apologize for doing good journalism" she said in a pointed response to Trump, who had suggested earlier in the day that she should apologize to him.

Trump has been lambasting Kelly and Fox for days, ever since he was challenged in last week's GOP debate on the network. He says the Fox moderators were unfair to him and that Fox should be "ashamed."

Ever since then, Fox has dramatically ratcheted down its coverage of Trump. The channel has barely covered Trump's criticisms of the moderators Kelly, Chris Wallace and Bret Baier.

But the motor-mouth Republican candidate eased up on his criticism of the channel on Monday morning after Ailes called.

Trump tweeted that Ailes had assured him of this: "'Trump' will be treated fairly on Fox News."

Trump added: "His word is always good!"

Soon after the phone call, Fox confirmed that Trump would be appearing on Tuesday's "Fox & Friends." It will be Trump's first time on the channel since Thursday night.

(Around the same time Tuesday morning, Trump will be on CNN's "New Day.")

And Trump will also be on Sean Hannity's 10 p.m. show on Tuesday.

What's unfolding in recent days is a true clash of titans. Fox News is the favored network of Republicans, and Trump is the Republican campaign front-runner.

He complained over and over again about what he perceived to be the network's unfair treatment. On Sunday afternoon he tweeted: "It amazes me that other networks seem to treat me so much better than Fox News. I brought them the biggest ratings in history, and I get zip!"

And he repeatedly and personally insulted Kelly, Fox's 9 p.m. host.

While Trump will be on other Fox shows, it is "highly unlikely" that he will appear with Kelly in the coming days, a source said -- and that's probably an understatement.

The fight started several days ago when Kelly and the other moderators posed tough questions to Trump and other GOP candidates.

Kelly was praised for asking Trump about sexist and misogynistic comments from his past. But Trump was furious.

On Friday night, speaking with CNN's Don Lemon, Trump complained about Kelly's "anger" at the debate by saying there was "blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. Many people believe he insinuating something about her menstrual cycle, but Trump denied that.


Kelly and her bosses at Fox News have said nothing publicly about the "blood" comments. Privately, though, they are disgusted by what Trump said and by the response from some of his supporters.

There has been so much invective directed at her on the Internet that it's created security concerns for Fox.

Kelly did not want to be seen as a victim; rather, she wanted to stay above the fray and be seen as an independent-minded journalist. That's why she barely addressed the controversy on Monday night.

Ailes' role in all this is critical. He was a masterful Republican media consultant for decades before creating Fox News. He is widely regarded as a television genius and a conservative power broker.

And he has a long history with Trump. Before this current presidential bid, Trump was a weekly guest on the network's morning show "Fox & Friends."

According to Politico, the two men met for a long lunch in late June, shortly after Trump entered the race.

So what is Ailes thinking in this case? Ailes has a reputation as a fighter -- someone who has employed his network and his hosts to win many battles over the years.

Around the office, Ailes has been known to repeat advice from his father: "Don't pick a fight with someone who likes to fight."

Usually when he invokes it, he means it as a warning to others.

But this situation is tricky. Why? Because Trump is a fighter, too.

For now, the two men seem to have struck a fragile truce.

 


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Fhoenix you do have an aversion for drama don't you? Trump surely is not your man
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Andrea Tantaros on Fox news was talking about Trump needing thick skin because if he is nominee it is going to get hit with tougher questions each and every week.
If you cannot handle the tough questions now about your own words and actions you are never going to be able to defeat the DNC......it makes you stronger if you respond in a respectable manner. If you don't and stay in the gutter it doesn't help you.

Hannity said the entire process is good and they need to be toughened up. 

Dr. Carson and Gov Kasich are surging. Bush is invisible. Trump has spent the last 4 days about hius feud with Megyn kelly. The other candidates have been quiet.

Megyn is seeing a huge surge in popularity. Next debate won't be by fox news and if they thought fox news was rough the next one will be sandpaper toilet paper to them


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Trump shouldn't get special treatment because the debate had high ratings. That's absurd. The next debate will also get high ratings, so should the moderators go easy on Donald? Of course not.

If anything, the front runner should get tough questions, and s/he should be able to handle them - better to see any weakness now than later when he bows to the Chinese and Arab rulers like Obama does. Lol
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Cruz will shine

i don't want the Donald to be my POTUS, such a waste of talent

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

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I love me some Andrea, you know that
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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"If anything, the front runner should get tough questions, and s/he should be able to handle them - better to see any weakness now than later when he bows to the Chinese and Arab rulers like Obama does."

[thumb]  good with that as long as they pertain to national interest and not whoopi or Rosie

tired of the misogynist word, so 2008

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Megyn did good. Donald, take the olive branch
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Guaranteed that libtards stayed away from Megyn's show tonight
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Quote:
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Andrea Tantaros on Fox news was talking about Trump needing thick skin because if he is nominee it is going to get hit with tougher questions each and every week.
If you cannot handle the tough questions now about your own words and actions you are never going to be able to defeat the DNC......it makes you stronger if you respond in a respectable manner. If you don't and stay in the gutter it doesn't help you.


This is what Bluedog and the other Trump supporters are failing to understand.  If they think Kelly was tough, just wait until the general.  I though Trump was tougher than that...
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Your saying, I don't understand?........Kelly wasn't tough, she was acting stupidly.....She is a women's libber......Regardless, Trump took on Fox news and won.....He is perfectly willing to go on without their friendship......They called him to re-connect........He accepted their offer to re-connect, so he can't be as thin-skinned as you say.....Besides, he admits to being a whiner when things don't go his way.....It's part of his formula to win.....

I do think there is some not understanding happening......But, it's not from me.....Maybe you should re-think your position!

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Fox could have handled it better by sandwiching tough questions to others in between the ones aimed at Trump (i.e. 3rd-party pledge and insulting women). 
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