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mikec

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Coach - I think you're reaching a little.  They didn't say trump conspired to kill Clinton.  They said his comments appeared to call for violence from his followers.

Now, you can interpret his statement either way, and we've had that debate already.

CNN said his campaign had been contacted by the SS.  Reuters said no, that had not happened - the SS had not FORMALLY contacted the campaign.

I think addition of that word FORMALLY means they have someone tell the campaign stop it, without sitting trump down himself, which would have been overkill.

Mountains out of molehills maybe, but the molehills were still present.

BTW - maybe you're onto hannity, but he is the only honest "journalist" in trump world.
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Mike, I know exactly what I heard.  I do my best to appear to be somewhat grounded.  Like I've heard so many times, people hear what they want to hear.  Maybe I did that.  Still, the guest speaking on CNN commented that he called for her to be shot.  I know I heard that. 
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There no longer remains an unbiased, independently funded, neutral and objective journalistic organization in this country. Perhaps there never was. Now it's just degrees of dishonest pieces masquerading as 'news'. Unfortunate that all the low info's aren't aware of this.  Smarter folks know that the old adage still applies:
"Believe none of what you hear (read) and half of what you see"

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Mike, I know exactly what I heard.  I do my best to appear to be somewhat grounded.  Like I've heard so many times, people hear what they want to hear.  Maybe I did that.  Still, the guest speaking on CNN commented that he called for her to be shot.  I know I heard that. 


Coach if you say you heard it on CNN, I believe you.  Listen to Don Lemon or Wolf Blitzkreig for 1 hour and I believe anything

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There no longer remains an unbiased, independently funded, neutral and objective journalistic organization in this country.


It would be interesting to name one or two if someone can.

 dewy thinks it all evens out but doesn't admit they are biased.  slapper just says "quit whining about it, it's all ok".  They don't deny it, they say get over it.

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
mikec

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Mike, I know exactly what I heard.  I do my best to appear to be somewhat grounded.  Like I've heard so many times, people hear what they want to hear.  Maybe I did that.  Still, the guest speaking on CNN commented that he called for her to be shot.  I know I heard that. 


will admit - I didn't watch, I read a story online.  if their person said that, they were wrong, and should've been called out for it.

I pretty much don't watch any of them anymore, for reasons EG cited above.  I check in on the five once in awhile when I can, but that's about it.
uwApoligist

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CNN exchange from Don Lemmon was absolute hysterics, and they definitely said Trump called for her assassination.  They have never mentioned that she had called for Obama (more directly), and have never mentioned Seth Rich

I could have sworn mikec himself stated that if 2nd amendment is significantly encroached upon there would result in states succeeding.  I assume the same, but live in a state that would be on the wrong side of any of that type of a divide.

I took Trumps comments as similar.   Of course, states succeeding has only happened in the past with violence.  

 Anyway, Trump continues to get hammered by CNN, no surprise.  

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CNN exchange from Don Lemmon was absolute hysterics, and they definitely said Trump called for her assassination.  They have never mentioned that she had called for Obama (more directly), and have never mentioned Seth Rich

I could have sworn mikec himself stated that if 2nd amendment is significantly encroached upon there would result in states succeeding.  I assume the same, but live in a state that would be on the wrong side of any of that type of a divide.  Sorry to hear that, I also believe it's possible dewy snickered over the topic of secession 

I took Trumps comments as similar.   Of course, states succeeding has only happened in the past with violence.  

 Anyway, Trump continues to get hammered by CNN, no surprise.  


I'm like slapper and dewy, I can't add to the thread in a coherent manner.  I haven't watched cable news since the Olympics started and it feels great.  #NeverCNN #NeverFox  my goal at least

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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“Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage.” Winston S. Churchill


uwApoligist

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This shows the depth and the breadth of media bias in the press, and in new press outlets like Twitter, Apple, Instagram and Google.

Chilling.

http://observer.com/2016/08/tech-companies-apple-twitter-google-and-instagram-collude-to-defeat-trump/

For instance Apple declares any pro-Trump podcast to be explicit.  "... show is pro-Trump, his show is explicit in nature ..."

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CNN FEELS ANTI-MEDIA RAGE...

ANCHOR: 'We couldn't help Hillary any more than we have'...

APPLE, TWITTER, GOOGLE, INSTAGRAM Collude to Defeat Trump...

PRUDEN: Media in froth to take him down...

Watchdog: Newspaper Bias Even WORSE Than TV...

News Orgs 'Fact Check' Trump, Give Clinton Free Pass...


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uwApoligist

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I find CNN fact checking extremely entertaining nowadays.
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CNN has gone way over the top.  Even Erick Erickson has said that they have crossed the line into stupid world, and need to get back before they are totally lost there.

That said - if you are POTUS, people all over the world look at you, and hang on what you say.  You can not run your mouth in a NY tough-guy bully-wannabe way and expect it to be OK.

I guess trump will learn that about the same time that he learns where Crimea is on a map.
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I find CNN fact checking extremely entertaining nowadays.
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slapper mentioned that the other day, the fact checking going on with CNN.   She, like CNN hang on every word Drumpf says and again, hook, line and sinker.  Her and dietwatereddown coke DVR CNN 24/7 to see how flustered they can get.

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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It's cute how the democratic lemmings get their info from the msm. Makes me feel sorry for them.
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TerdAlum saying someone sounds like an idiot, now that there's funny, I don't care who ya are! [biggrin]
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I am with Gabby Giffords and the families,colleagues, supporters of MLK, Sandy Hook students/faculty, Reagan, and others who don't think what Trump said is funny; and yes he meant that someone with a gun should take action against either Hillary or the judges if and when she is elected.

Now you all might have great hearts but a leader speaks to a lot of whack-nuts. And a leader needs to be clear when they speak, and not sarcastic. Have you heard what even Trump supporters pin on Trump--they are putting all kinds of hopes and beliefs, good and not so good, on Trump for saving them, caring about them, even white supremacists who think he supports them, etc. that he can't deliver (no one can, good or bad). Some of these people have already been promised stuff by Repub leaders that they never got.

The rest of the world leaders do not have English as their first language and one slight could also start something.

He and the situation are powder kegs and it only takes one nut. (Combined with nasty t-shirts, nasty chants on both sides, crude name-calling, Confederate flags, etc.)

BTW: Trump sounds like an idiot when he says things no one knows are true, or repeats some POS he read on the Internet from Russia. His credibility is gone. It is not about fact-checking.


DerpAlum, are you talking about all the hate filled violent people attacking Trump supporters outside Trump event's? Are you talking about the hundreds of protesters interrupting Trump events and getting arrested? Are you talking about the crazy Liberal from the UK living here illegally that had the idea to attempt to assassinate Trump? I can't say as I have seen any crazy Trump people interrupting Clinton rallies, physically attacking Clinton supporters at Clinton events, or trying to assassinate Clinton. No, that would be the Liberal Left. The very Liberals saying how violent and evil the Trump supporters are, are in fact the ones that are violent and doing evil.

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No, she's only taking about the fringe right - they almost always stay silent when it is the left doing these things.

I highly doubt Terp is even aware of the Hillary Clinton/Obama assassination comments.
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What did Trump say that wasn't funny?  He made a remark that the voters could take care of stuff.  CNN then lies to the American people about investigations.  What was it Clinton said about Obama? 
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I am with Gabby Giffords and the families,colleagues, supporters of MLK, Sandy Hook students/faculty, Reagan, and others who don't think what Trump said is funny (agreed); and yes he meant that someone with a gun should (NO - could) take action against either Hillary or the judges if and when she is elected.

The left-leaning media ran with the false narrative that Trump was advocating/inciting violence, which was an absurd interpretation. His campaign's attempt to explain it with their strategy of mobilizing large voter support from 2A proponents was a real stretch. Ryan characterized it as a joke gone bad. I tend to think he verbalized a devil's advocate rebuttal to his "nothing you can do." 

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Now you all might have great hearts but a leader speaks to a lot of whack-nuts. And a leader needs to be clear when they speak, and not sarcastic. ...

If you're honest, you'll admit Dems are running the risk of inciting violence against Trump by constantly calling him "dangerous" and promoting hysteria over him becoming president. There's already been one attempt on his life and we've seen the tragic results of anti-cop rhetoric by BLM and their supporters.

Trump definitely needs to be clearer with his use of hyperbole. Sarcasm was how he labeled his "founder of ISIS" charges, which rational people recognized as not being literal. Once it got people's attention, he should have made the real argument (e.g. "MVP") instead of doubling down on the "founder" label.

Both of these overblown non-troversies are to keep attention away from HRC and her problems. 
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What was it Clinton said about Obama? 

In their 2008 campaign, HRC used the RFK assassination in June 1968 as rational for her staying in the race despite being unable to overtake Obama's lead.
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In their 2008 campaign, HRC used the RFK assassination in June 1968 as rational for her staying in the race despite being unable to overtake Obama's lead.


Unlike trump, when a clinton starts 'mentioning' the word assassination in conjunction with your name, you best keep your head on a swivel. Lots of dead bodies in the clinton wake as they plow their machine through the political waters.

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I am sure Terp and her ilk were just as upset when Obama said to get in the faces of conservatives and if they bring a knife then you bring a gun. Was the great leader actually espousing violence against conservatives like libs are now crying that Trump was doing to Hillary.
The righteous indignation is laughable but the mush heads eat it up and regurgitate it on command.
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In their 2008 campaign, HRC used the RFK assassination in June 1968 as rational for her staying in the race despite being unable to overtake Obama's lead.


Yes, I knew that.  I was making a point to terp. 
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Hillary propped up at Rally.

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ISIS does not give out MVP awards.  Zing.   They really got him with that one.

 

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I watched Smerconish Saturday morning. He appears to be the only host on CNN that is a somewhat neutral interviewer. He looks to be more of a political junkie, or a student of politics, rather than an agenda based "broadcast journalist". The rest of CNN hosts are by their own admission biased towards Liberal Candidates, and make it part of their job to attack any opponent of Liberalism. CNN is in effect a media outlet, an arm of the DNC. It's like a State sponsored news station in a 3rd world nation. I don't know how long they will continue to be a functioning news organization if they continue down the path they are on. Even the Soviet citizens were aware that Pravda was a bunch of BS propaganda.
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I watched Smerconish Saturday morning. He appears to be the only host on CNN that is a somewhat neutral interviewer. He looks to be more of a political junkie, or a student of politics, rather than an agenda based "broadcast journalist". The rest of CNN hosts are by their own admission biased towards Liberal Candidates, and make it part of their job to attack any opponent of Liberalism. CNN is in effect a media outlet, an arm of the DNC. It's like a State sponsored news station in a 3rd world nation. I don't know how long they will continue to be a functioning news organization if they continue down the path they are on. Even the Soviet citizens were aware that Pravda was a bunch of BS propaganda.


In this country, as long as the propaganda people put the word "News" in their name, the millions of low-info americans will believe they are reporting 'news'. Per capita our public citizens aren't nearly as aware as the rest of the world's citizens. We are a nation of sloth, propped up with subsidies and ebt cards and white guilt.

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In this country, as long as the propaganda people put the word "News" in their name, the millions of low-info americans will believe they are reporting 'news'. Per capita our public citizens aren't nearly as aware as the rest of the world's citizens. We are a nation of sloth, propped up with subsidies and ebt cards and white guilt.


That we are, with very little deniability.  We've had whole threads dedicated to that premise and only token rebuttal by you know who.  The white guilt is spreading with the help of predominantly CNN.  CNN has become the MSNBC of yesterday

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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