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BHS83

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For the sake of making things a little easier when making predictions.....

Senior Losses for each team (Does not include transfers)


Georgia
Cortni Emanuel
Kendall Burton
Brittany Gray

Tennessee
Meghan Gregg
CJ McClain
Sheridan Allen
Scarlet McSwain


Texas A&M
Tori Vidales
Lexi Smith
Kristen Kuyos
Erica Russell
Trinity Harrington

South Carolina 
Jordyn Augustus
Hayley Copeland
Krystan White
Tiara Duffy
Kamryn Watts
Alyssa VanDerveer 

Mississippi State
Cassady Knudsen
Reggie Harrison
Holly Ward
Calyn Adams
Carmen Carter
Morgan Bell


Ole Miss
Bry Castro
Alyssa Clayton
Elantra Cox
Kaitlin Lee
Elis Jahnke
Paige McKinney
Alex Schneider 

Florida
Janell Wheat
Aleshia Ocasio
Kayli Kvistad
Nicole Dewitt


Alabama
Demi Turner
Peyton Grantham
Rachel Bobo
Sydney Booker
Carrigan Fain
Alexis Osorio


Arkansas
AJ Belans
Tori Cooper
Autumn Buczek
Loren Kryzsko

Auburn
Kaylee Carlson
Victoria Draper
Courtney Shea

 Kentucky
Brooklin Hinz
Rachel Metzger
Erin Rethlake

LSU
Carley Hoover
Allie Walljasper
Emily Griggs
Sydney Loupe

Missouri
Paige Bange


LSU lost Griggs..... and the two pitchers. I am banking on Gorsuch and Sunseri, and they are more "proven" than some pitcher y'all saw in travel ball.

I admit I am more focused on who lost who, rather than incoming players, but that is logical, since we know what Emanuel and Burton at Georgia did for their team Arkansas lost their shortstop, and Buzcek possibly their best hitter. Alabama lost both middle infielders and the only good pitcher they had. Florida is down to on pitcher and they are going to have to replace their catcher, third baseman, first baseman, and Ocasio. 

Rethlake is gone, as is Hinz. I dont think the other two pitchers they used are going to be better than what Tennessee has. Losing Gregg, McClain in the outfield, and McSwain who was an offensive producer... its going to be rough for Tennessee. 

When pre-season rolls around and we know who has who, we can all throw in our predictions. I think those of you who are going to throw LSU down in the cellar are going to eat crow. I say that with charity.


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When pre-season rolls around and we know who has who, we can all throw in our predictions. I think those of you who are going to throw LSU down in the cellar are going to eat crow. I say that with charity.


Would love to eat it

I truly expect the new pitchers to do well but the offense will struggle as always. I don't think its all of a sudden going to just change over night without major changes 

In the end, Torina has a decision to make. If the offense isn't addressed its very bad new for LSU. Not sure how she could sleep at night with the losses on the mound and with how her offense has hit these last few years

LSU's issues go. beyond what one or two new incoming players could fix 
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Originally Posted by BHS83
For the sake of making things a little easier when making predictions.....

Senior Losses for each team (Does not include transfers)


Georgia
Cortni Emanuel
Kendall Burton
Brittany Gray

Tennessee
Meghan Gregg
CJ McClain
Sheridan Allen
Scarlet McSwain


Texas A&M
Tori Vidales
Lexi Smith
Kristen Kuyos
Erica Russell
Trinity Harrington

South Carolina 
Jordyn Augustus
Hayley Copeland
Krystan White
Tiara Duffy
Kamryn Watts
Alyssa VanDerveer 

Mississippi State
Cassady Knudsen
Reggie Harrison
Holly Ward
Calyn Adams
Carmen Carter
Morgan Bell


Ole Miss
Bry Castro
Alyssa Clayton
Elantra Cox
Kaitlin Lee
Elis Jahnke
Paige McKinney
Alex Schneider 

Florida
Janell Wheat
Aleshia Ocasio
Kayli Kvistad
Nicole Dewitt


Alabama
Demi Turner
Peyton Grantham
Rachel Bobo
Sydney Booker
Carrigan Fain
Alexis Osorio


Arkansas
AJ Belans
Tori Cooper
Autumn Buczek
Loren Kryzsko

Auburn
Kaylee Carlson
Victoria Draper
Courtney Shea

 Kentucky
Brooklin Hinz
Rachel Metzger
Erin Rethlake

LSU
Carley Hoover
Allie Walljasper
Emily Griggs
Sydney Loupe

Missouri
Paige Bange


LSU lost Griggs..... and the two pitchers. I am banking on Gorsuch and Sunseri, and they are more "proven" than some pitcher y'all saw in travel ball.

I admit I am more focused on who lost who, rather than incoming players, but that is logical, since we know what Emanuel and Burton at Georgia did for their team Arkansas lost their shortstop, and Buzcek possibly their best hitter. Alabama lost both middle infielders and the only good pitcher they had. Florida is down to on pitcher and they are going to have to replace their catcher, third baseman, first baseman, and Ocasio. 

Rethlake is gone, as is Hinz. I dont think the other two pitchers they used are going to be better than what Tennessee has. Losing Gregg, McClain in the outfield, and McSwain who was an offensive producer... its going to be rough for Tennessee. 

When pre-season rolls around and we know who has who, we can all throw in our predictions. I think those of you who are going to throw LSU down in the cellar are going to eat crow. I say that with charity.




I’m sure our girls will be fine on the mound, but there is much less room for cushion. We most likely give up more runs next year as we break in new people, it’s just the way it goes.

I’m all for optimism but realistically we aren’t a top half of the SEC unless we improve at the plate.

Question is what are we doing to address the issues?
BHS83

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I’m sure our girls will be fine on the mound, but there is much less room for cushion. We most likely give up more runs next year as we break in new people, it’s just the way it goes.

I’m all for optimism but realistically we aren’t a top half of the SEC unless we improve at the plate.

Question is what are we doing to address the issues?


Let's hope something changes. It cant be the same as last year. You have to get your best hitters out on the field and make defensive players out of them, you cant do it the other way around....great fielders that dont produce offensively, that will definitely put LSU at the bottom. 

Whatever lineup Beth comes up with, there are going to be other variations she might have to try. Let's just hope she goes by what she sees in practice and who is hitting. 

One thing that makes a coach great is making adjustments. I dont know how many people would have yanked their starting quarterback and put a freshman in like Saban did in the championship game, but if he hadn't done it, they'd have lost.  

What is not working must be changed, that's about the most basic coaching truth there is.
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Let's hope something changes. It cant be the same as last year. You have to get your best hitters out on the field and make defensive players out of them, you cant do it the other way around....great fielders that dont produce offensively, that will definitely put LSU at the bottom. 

Whatever lineup Beth comes up with, there are going to be other variations she might have to try. Let's just hope she goes by what she sees in practice and who is hitting. 

One thing that makes a coach great is making adjustments. I dont know how many people would have yanked their starting quarterback and put a freshman in like Saban did in the championship game, but if he hadn't done it, they'd have lost.  

What is not working must be changed, that's about the most basic coaching truth there is.


I agree!

I really don’t see any differences this year compared to the last years offense other than Doyle slightly opening up her stance, and Emily wasn’t using only her arms. The rest were literally the same. I kinda was expecting a tweak in Springfield’s swing because it was so long but that never panned out. Chamberlain had to have her swing changed in the middle of her freshmen year because of similar reasons. I just see zero adjustments on this side, plus there is way too much guessing. It’s like some are told to swing or not swing before the ball is thrown!

You can see the pitchers are constantly adjusting and retuning their mechanics. All of the pitchers have worked and tried different windups and other stuff. It really helped out MB this year and it amped up her velocity.

It’s truly night and day how both units are handled between the hitters and pitchers
LSUGrad92

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No one seems to be talking about Taylor Tidwell

She was the best player in the state last year, I don't see how she will bat less than what Schulte did, and has much more pop as well
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No one seems to be talking about Taylor Tidwell

She was the best player in the state last year, I don't see how she will bat less than what Schulte did, and has much more pop as well


Not sure about that. What makes her the best in the state ?

Her #1 ranked team got beat by #16 at home her senior season. That’s a tough way to end your HS career.
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Not sure about that. What makes her the best in the state ?

Her #1 ranked team got beat by #16 at home her senior season. That’s a tough way to end your HS career.


Would love to hear a better player. Just athleticism and her bat

Defense does need work though

Yea Tidwell was walked every plate appearance that game 2 of the 3 intentionally for a reason. Not sure how you can help your team win it when you are walked.

Who's your best player in the state of Louisiana? 



St. Amant has a history though of falling short in the play offs 
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Would love to hear a better player. Just athleticism and her bat

Defense does need work though

Yea Tidwell was walked every plate appearance that game 2 of the 3 intentionally for a reason. Not sure how you can help your team win it when you are walked.

Who's your best player in the state of Louisiana? 



St. Amant has a history though of falling short in the play offs 


If you look at athletic scholarship $ she is nowhere near the best.

La put out a bunch of good kids this year.
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If you look at athletic scholarship $ she is nowhere near the best.

La put out a bunch of good kids this year.



You know how much scholarship money each incoming freshmen is getting?

Clark and Kilponen are getting the bulk of that scholarship money

The kids in Louisiana have the luxury of benefits not offered in a lot of state


So who were your top Louisiana kids this year? You make it sound like LSU didn't sign any of the good kids
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You know how much scholarship money each incoming freshmen is getting?

Clark and Kilponen are getting the bulk of that scholarship money

The kids in Louisiana have the luxury of benefits not offered in a lot of state


So who were your top Louisiana kids this year? You make it sound like LSU didn't sign any of the good kids


Every Louisiana. School uses TOPS and then uses Athletic monies 2nd. The problem with that is TOPS $ are not guaranteed.

Clark is prob at 25% or so.

I would think Kilponen is getting a full ride.

How many SEC offers did Tidwell have? How many power 5 kids has the Patriots had outside of LSU ?





All the LA kids are probably on books or small percentages. Torina spends her money on the out of state kids.
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The patriots girls..

I don't know who exactly recruited Tidwell ,early on she shut down her recruitment her sophomore year and really developed her last two year IMO. Lotief recruited her at ULL for sure 
She to me was a late bloomer when it came to her play/development. 

Perkins I don't think had any power 5 offers

Wickersham had plenty of interest from SEC schools early on before she committed to LSU. 

So Is what you are saying is all the Patriot girls bad? No doubt Louisiana still has ways to go. 


I think Tidwell is much better than the current patriot girls on roster, some I who I still wonder how got a scholarship to LSU
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The patriots girls..

I don't know who exactly recruited Tidwell ,early on she shut down her recruitment her sophomore year and really developed her last two year IMO. Lotief recruited her at ULL for sure 
She to me was a late bloomer when it came to her play/development. 

Perkins I don't think had any power 5 offers

Wickersham had plenty of interest from SEC schools early on before she committed to LSU. 

So Is what you are saying is all the Patriot girls bad? No doubt Louisiana still has ways to go. 


I think Tidwell is much better than the current patriot girls on roster, some I who I still wonder how got a scholarship to LSU


Patriots have a long way to go to be competitive at a national level. They are however one of a few opportunities that Louisiana kids have to be seen.


LA will put several kids on college rosters this fall. Keep an eye out for them because there are some really good.
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I've seen Victoria Abrams play locally, she plays for the patriots

Not a bad little player either
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Patriots have a long way to go to be competitive at a national level. They are however one of a few opportunities that Louisiana kids have to be seen.


LA will put several kids on college rosters this fall. Keep an eye out for them because there are some really good.


Did LSU sign any of the good ones?


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Did LSU sign any of the good ones?




LSU made offers to all the good ones. I know one kid had multiple SEC offers and went in a different direction.
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LSU made offers to all the good ones. I know one kid had multiple SEC offers and went in a different direction.


So what you are saying is LSU didn't sign the top players in the state

Hope it works out for the kids we have coming in.

I noticed LSU's 2020 class are ALL out of state kids 
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So what you are saying is LSU didn't sign the top players in the state

Hope it works out for the kids we have coming in.




It is not gonna matter as the LA kids will not be playing unless the out of state kids really don’t perform.

Follow the scholarship money. You have 11.9 scholarships. 9 position players and some pitchers. Kids getting little scholarship are expected to produce a little. Kids receiving a large scholarship are expected to produce a bunch.
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It is not gonna matter as the LA kids will not be playing unless the out of state kids really don’t perform.

Follow the scholarship money. You have 11.9 scholarships. 9 position players and some pitchers. Kids getting little scholarship are expected to produce a little. Kids receiving a large scholarship are expected to produce a bunch.


I see what you are saying. So you are saying they will play based off of money?

  some of the money spent players aren't producing though...  the instate kids must be really rough then


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I see what you are saying. So you are saying they will play based off of money?

  some of the money spent players aren't producing though...  the instate kids must be really rough then




The money represents the coach’s opinion of value of the player. LSU will struggle next year. I believe it will be the first season that Torina will coach without an All-American in the circle. LSU has been historically weak at the plate and this narrative will unfold next season.
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LSU will use the fall season and early spring to play and evaluate players. They will settle into a starting lineup about 4 to 6 weeks prior to the start of SEC play. They will pitch by committee and rely a little more on match ups. I would love to see them add a proven bat and a proven arm via transfer. Watch and learn 
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LSU 2018 OFFENSIVE STATS

LSU ranked #188 nationally in batting average

LSU ranked #166 nationally in scoring

LSU ranked #157 nationally in slugging percentage 


Also ranked outside the top 100 in OB percentage as well, if it weren't for the pitchers the season would have been a lot worse.


The offense needs to be dramatically better next season, and do it with much more consistency to have a chance


But we all continue to say the same thing after every season and nothing is done


Yes, Ashlyn, you do say the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over, no matter which forum you post on.  
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Yes, Ashlyn, you do say the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over, no matter which forum you post on.  


I don’t even post on TD but I know who you are talking about. what I’m saying is facts but you seem to think it’s acceptable to put up numbers like that. Continue to deflect man. You can be a fan and have valid criticism, which my statement is, fans outside of LSU would all agree.

Tell me what LSUs record this past season would be if we didn’t have Hoover and Walljasper?
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No one seems to be talking about Taylor Tidwell

She was the best player in the state last year, I don't see how she will bat less than what Schulte did, and has much more pop as well


Tidwell was not the best MIF in Louisiana for 2018.

K Naomi is a better player hands down.
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I don’t even post on TD but I know who you are talking about. what I’m saying is facts but you seem to think it’s acceptable to put up numbers like that. Continue to deflect man. You can be a fan and have valid criticism, which my statement is, fans outside of LSU would all agree.

Tell me what LSUs record this past season would be if we didn’t have Hoover and Walljasper?


You will see that in 2019. Hang on.
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My optimism is based on my belief that LSU pitching crew will be second or third best in the SEC.

Bama and Georgia definitely need pitching help. Alabama's offense looked awful in their last losses. At least Georgia can hit.

Tennessee may surprise everyone.

I think the entire conference will end up in the top 30.
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Tidwell was not the best MIF in Louisiana for 2018.

K Naomi is a better player hands down.


Not sure about that....

The best pitcher in Louisiana will be Raelin Chaffin. Olivia Lackie is really good too

I’m glad Chaffin left Louisiana for travel ball
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My optimism is based on my belief that LSU pitching crew will be second or third best in the SEC.

Bama and Georgia definitely need pitching help. Alabama's offense looked awful in their last losses. At least Georgia can hit.

Tennessee may surprise everyone.

I think the entire conference will end up in the top 30.


I’m highly critical but I’m with ya. I honestly am optimistic pitching will be very good, maybe not senior all American good but very good.

Andrews, Doyle, Sunseri, Antoine, and Clark wlll be a very solid group. I expect Doyle, Sunseri and Clark to all provide power numbers. Antoine is a nice little gap hitter but needs to improve her pitch selection.

It will come down to production from those other 4 spots!
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I’m highly critical but I’m with ya. I honestly am optimistic pitching will be very good, maybe not senior all American good but very good.

Andrews, Doyle, Sunseri, Antoine, and Clark wlll be a very solid group. I expect Doyle, Sunseri and Clark to all provide power numbers. Antoine is a nice little gap hitter but needs to improve her pitch selection.

It will come down to production from those other 4 spots!


I think that is what made Washington so good... they had a solid batting line..Burdick and the other outfielders had good averages and OBP's, plus they were really fast on the bases. I think what hurt Florida was they had Dewitt, Lorenz, Kvistad, Ocasio, and Wheaton,,,and then the rest struggled. 

I was shocked Florida state beat washington but King was on,, she was really on. Had they thrown Hanson out there,  hate to say it, i think Washington would have bombed her... but Washington was a great team because they had nine hitters in their lineup, not three or four.

Looking back...remember when there was Andrews, Landry, Bell, Jaquish, Kloss, Simmons, Griggs........ man that was a great team, i sure do miss that offense.
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Washington's biggest plus was a top three in the lineup who were excellent, exceptional defense on the left-side infield and in the outfield and Gabby Plain coming up huge

Obviously, I think their making the final two, with the preseason catching disaster and the loss of Aguilar and having the weakest 4-9 lineup they have ever had in OKC, was damn near a miracle. By far and away the best coaching job by Tarr.

I don't like her manner, but what a job.
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