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Grindz

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Clark is a great player but I'll believe it when she performs at the college level. Not everyone transitions smoothy year one


Keep in mind who the hitting coach is.  
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Watched Kilponen pitch in Colorado last week. She is very good at the club level and has a chance to be very good at LSU if she continues to improve and develop.  


I think Kilponen will likely see more time than Wickersham year one 
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Fair enough but I'd be shocked to see her perform worse than some of the hitters on squad already.

Hopefully she can contribute, not saying she will but she potentially could help out

Of course development and preparation for this level of play is a critical factor, and a concerning one for LSU fans in terms of its hitters. I am not sold they get the most out of all its hitters, some thrive, while others falter. Plenty of evidence of that over the last few years


Agree with most of your post. 

Like pitchers, especially, the key to success at the next level is quality reps. If she is given adequate reps against college pitchers, especially early and often in the Fall, her transition into the Spring will be accelerated. 

Problem seems to be with most Freshman, they get a few opportunities and, predictably they don't fair well right away. Then the opportunities become fewer & fewer. Without oppt, how you going to get better. Most usually don't
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What a dumb name. Did her parents conceive her at a rest area and couldn't think of a better name than Georgia?
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What a dumb name. Did her parents conceive her at a rest area and couldn't think of a better name than Georgia?


You are such trash
Softballjunkie223

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No it's absolute truth.
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You are such trash

It's an obvious troll going from thread to thread spewing word vomit.
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Clark is a great player but I'll believe it when she performs at the college level. Not everyone transitions smoothy year one


Keep in mind who the hitting coach is.  


True, Doyle had a rough first year but had a great turn around year two

Not sure how much her HS injuries played a role in it but she looks much better.



Hopefully Antoine and Sunseri can make jumps like that year two but its hard not to like what we saw our of Sunseri. She made a pretty quick impact last season in spite of missing a great amount of time to start the year and seemed to progress as the season went. She was able to hit off FSU every game as well.
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Agree with most of your post. 

Like pitchers, especially, the key to success at the next level is quality reps. If she is given adequate reps against college pitchers, especially early and often in the Fall, her transition into the Spring will be accelerated. 

Problem seems to be with most Freshman, they get a few opportunities and, predictably they don't fair well right away. Then the opportunities become fewer & fewer. Without oppt, how you going to get better. Most usually don't


Definitely, quality reps are vital in order for kids to develop and for them to adjust to this higher level of play. 

I though Maribeth Gorusch took some major strides forward this season and it got better the more she was out there. I am looking forward to seeing her next year with much more experience and confidence. She located her pitches much better and increased her velocity, her wind up was a little different but Torina always likes to play with it and try to find what works for that player. 

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Why is everyone so down on the Louisiana girls? Some seem to think they all suck 
SECFan04

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Why is everyone so down on the Louisiana girls? Some seem to think they all suck 



Louisiana has a long way to catch up with the rest of the country in softball. 

With that said, there are many talented kids that are pumped out each year by the state of Louisiana. 

Only Louisiana player I expect to play next season is Wickersham. 
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Georgia Clark plays on ESPN 3 at 1:30 in TC USA Nationals...
If anybody want to see her play.
Softballjunkie223

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Not really👎🏿👎🏿
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That is not what BHS83 meant. He was saying that he doesn't think certain kids will be benched in spite of performances. 

You are correct HS accolades and travel. ball success does not mean anything when competing at the next level but I do think Clark is much further along at this point of her career than essentially most/all of the players on LSU's squad as a hitter, outside of maybe Doyle. So I am optimistic but I will wait to see.

The bottom line is if they expect Clark or any of the newcomers to turn into producible players at the next level, they can't strictly rely on pitch hitting situations as a true way of evaluating. Thats one of my few criticisms of Torina, is that aspect in particular.  In order for kids to develop and actually be able to see if they can play, they will need multiple games with at bats with the flow of the game to truly see what they are capable of.

I do hope she can provide a spark, that would be very helpful for next years squad.


Some issues....

There is no way I'd send out to bat a player who has obvious issues with her stance, swing, and phiolosophy... like we have seen before..some stepping out, ,some dipping so bad they drop their shoulder and dump the barrell..

I am wondering how far Howard is allowed to change the batters... is he given the authority to strip a player of all her batting traits and give her a new one, or does he have to let them keep as much as possible their individuality in their hitting approach. Some have the see that what they are doing will NOT work.  

We have watched left handers pull away, stepping toward first base instead of toward the pitcher, and they cannot hit the dreaded thing called "an outside pitch".

Put your best hitters out there and MAKE defensive players out of them, especially if you have issues with batting development. Dont put your best defensive players out there and try to make batters out of them. 

Ever notice sometimes late in a game, in baseball, in the bottom of the last inning, the coach will pull his first baseman and an outfielder or two and put someone else out there...know why?? because the starter isnt the better defensive player, he is the better offensive player. That is what LSU will have to do.

If Georgia Clark can it... let her play. 

What concerns me is suddenly, with all these .250 hitters... a lot of people are ok with it. Serrett, i really like her and want her to start, and i believe she should start, but, and this goes for all of them..... if they slump, pull them out if there is someone else that can play. Let them get out of their slump on their own time and dime. You have to have people getting on base . 

Look at the other teams, Perez, Walton, Murphy, and old man Ralph are very willing to pull a slumping starter, and that is what sets a great coach apart from an average coach.



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I do like that Beth doesn't get settled in with a consistent starting nine until they have played a good number of games, I just hope that if a player falls off they are pulled out and replaced. 
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Its just hard to have a great offense when you have 3 or 4 hitters at .250 or lower. Its a lack of consistency that doesn't allow an offense to score or hit efficiently. 

They need to strip down everything Serrett has ever did because she is struggling and needs help. Hopefully they do that so she can have a great senior season.

Agree with getting the best batters in the lineup and finding ways for them to succeed defensively. Only two positions are worth defense over offense, thats catcher and SS, everything else needs to be best offensive player. 
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Georgia Clark plays on ESPN 3 at 1:30 in TC USA Nationals...
If anybody want to see her play.


Thanks, I think she has already hit like 5 or 6 home runs in this tournament. The field is pretty big too. 

Bombers are facing Kilfoyl in the circle for East Cobb 
SECFan04

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This bombers and east Cobb game is awful

17-5 we are only in the 3rd inning lol 
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Clark goes opposite field with an RBI double to the RF wall 
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I am wondering how far Howard is allowed to change the batters... is he given the authority to strip a player of all her batting traits and give her a new one,............ 


Yes, this is what he does............
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Yes, this is what he does............


If LSU struggles badly again next year at the plate, I think Torina will need to head another direction with the offense. She can’t do it all on her own (pitching). LSU has some good athletes who are capable.
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Yes, this is what he does............


I am sure a lot of batting coaches may do this, but in trying to find something that they all do, aside from the weight transfer forward, there's really not a lot of consistency, across the board among the batters that we see each game, where they are all doing the same thing, have the same flaws, etc.

Sanchez doesnt bat like anyone else on the team. Antoine doesnt bat like anyone else on the team, neither do Serret, Schulte, Schlatmann, Thornhill, etc.

Sanchez is not a flawed batter,  pitch selection is a challenge, but the umpires are horrible there's often not much she can do. Antoine, to me, in swing-away mode, is very, very good. Thornhil, if she doesn't dip too bad, is alright. Serret needs an A-Z remake, and even as she is, she really hits the ball hard. She has great potential. 

Anyway, just out of curiosity, my question for you is, aside from forward weight transfer, what do you see across the board as being a consistent flaw that the batting coach is pushing?
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Exactly how many logins does grindz have now?
Grindz

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Exactly how many logins does grindz have now?


Just this one, don’t get mad that Bluedog, SECfan and BHS83 are calling Dobson out, rightfully so. The offense has been in Steady decline these last few years. I don’t know about you but I want a decent offense to go along with Torinas pitchers.

It’s sad that you continue to defend the results
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I don’t see Georgia Clark starting unless Torina benches Sunseri to get her in at DP. She does have a big bat though
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Just this one, don’t get mad that Bluedog, SECfan and BHS83 are calling Dobson out, rightfully so. The offense has been in Steady decline these last few years. I don’t know about you but I want a decent offense to go along with Torinas pitchers.

It’s sad that you continue to defend the results


I never defended them - you are literally too stupid to speak to.
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I never defended them - you are literally too stupid to speak to.


How am I stupid? Because I “hate” or don’t think Dobson is the right man leading this offense?
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Anyway, just out of curiosity, my question for you is, aside from forward weight transfer, what do you see across the board as being a consistent flaw that the batting coach is pushing?


BHS, body movement, as it pertains to swinging a bat with a ball coming at you, is something that isn't as black-and-white as you're insinuating...........You can teach a body-movement sequence on a tee all you want, which is what Dobson does, but, against a pitcher in a game that body-movement will be dictated to by the moving ball and will mesh with a flight-from-fright sequence ............In other words, all bets are off in a game and what you see is what you get.........

Here's my point, BHS...........I could go on-and-on about how Dobson teaches hitting, but, here's the bottom-line...........He teaches his players to square-up the feet and shift their weight to the front-side which inhibits any hip rotation..........You do this and you'll get differing swing patterns depending on the speed-and-location of the pitch, but, you're ability to square-up the bat with the ball with any consistency will be greatly compromised.............Good pitchers feast on hitters getting their weight over their front-side..........

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Hitting instructors believe what they teach is the way-to-go..........If you don't, then, why teach, right?.............

Here is Dobson teaching hitting..............I think it's pretty reasonable to expect this is the instruction LSU's hitters are being exposed to...........And, there's nothing private about it, these videos are easy to find and view on the internet............

Now, if you wanna take-away the athleticism of a hitter, follow what is being taught in this video............It makes me cringe to know that hitters are exposed to this stuff............


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