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smcouvillion

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I am so excited to see how next years season will turn out.

I really like LSU and Beth Torina, but she really needs to get a new hitting coach, our players struggle so much against good pitching, and this new year we won't be having two all-americans leading the way in the circle.

It used to be just 1 run for us was usually enough, but this season will most likely not be that way. What do you expect out pitching rotation to be like?

The following are all of the incoming freshman:

Georgia Clark - 1B - Houston, TX - 16th in Hot 100
Morgan Cummins - C - Sarasota, FL - 131st in Hot 200
Karrington Houshmandzadeh - OF - Cerritos, CA
Ali Kilponen - P - Highlands Ranch, CO - 69th in Hot 100
Jordyn Perkins - UT - Metairie, LA
Savannah Stewart - OF - Marrieta, GA - 56th in Hot 100
Taylor Tidwell - UT - Gonzalez, LA - 176th in Hot 200
Shelby Wickersham - P - Metairie, LA - 9th in Hot 100

This class ranks 8th in the Top 2018 College Recruiting Classes, it is 5th in the SEC.

Positions that are locked IMO:
1B: Amanda Doyle (May be up for grabs w/ Clark)
3B: Shemiah Sanchez
SS: Amber Serrett
OF: Aliyah Andrews
OF: Taryn Antoine

Positions that are open:
Ace Pitcher: b/t Wickersham and Gorsuch
C: b/t Schlattman, Cummins, and Caccamise
2B: Will probably go to crappy Schulte. Perkins, Tidwell, Goff are other options.
OF: b/t Glenn, Thymes, Weinberger, Housh, Stewart

What do you guys think? Who do you think will be the starter for the other positions, or do you think it will be a team effort with time split between each?

For pitching Rotation, I would expect Gorsuch to be our ace, but it depends on how Wickersham and Kilponen do in the fall. I would expect for Sunseri to be 4th in our rotation, mostly playing as our DP.
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Honest question and it’s not a knock on the player

How is Wickersham ranked in the top 10? It’s the same also for extra inning


Flosoftball hasn’t included Ali Kilponen so the class technically ranks higher. By the way she is ranked like 55. Extra innings ranks LSUs class at #2 I think

You are missing Kilponen who I think will be the ace for next years team. She is very good from all I hear and her offer list speaks volumes

I don’t like the dig at Schulte even though we all know she shouldn’t be a starter.


I think Sunseri can be a great pitcher if she cleans up some stuff, she has some great pitches
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I really like LSU and Beth Torina, but she really needs to get a new hitting coach



Preaching to the choir buddy

Yea... not going to happen


Dobson said this job is his dream job. Sounds like another coach on campus [rofl]
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To answer your questions I still think pitching will be the strength of next years team, they are just inexperienced and unproven

If Maribeth has another good offseason she will be more than fine for next season, she took tremendous strides last year and that experience will pay off IMO

Sunseri looked solid in limited action, she did a lot of good stuff, she just needs experience. She would have pitched more if it weren't for her injury. 



Pitching:

I think its safe to say as of now MB will be your #1 until the freshmen pick up that experience. I think Kilponen is likely your #2, Wickersham's ball needs to not be so flat when she pitches in conference play. She has some good stuff as well but maybe Torina can make some changes that can fix some of this. No doubt she is very talented, like all the other pitchers. Sunseri I think will surprise a lot of people, she turned the corner sometime in early April according to Torina and will be a big time player for us on the mound soon. She throws very hard and has nice movement, I don't see why she couldn't be successful next year, she just needs innings. Only way a kid will get better. I suspect we will take our lumps at times but the pitching will still be very strong by the end of the year. As another poster said, Torina deserves the benefit of the doubt due to her history with the development of pitchers. As long as  some of the new kids aren't walking every other batter they should do okay. It takes time to develop into All SEC or better All American players


Offense:

If we want to have a decent season, major changes are needed on this side. Of course we continue to say this every offseason....

If there is a positive, the freshmen and sophomores are one year older. Doyle and Andrews are proven players who should be better next season. I think Sunseri is a legit bat, she hit some great pitching in Tallahassee and she did so in conference play as well. 7 home runs and 6 doubles in the heart of conference play and post season as a true freshmen is very impressive. Sunseri is an absolute must for us in the lineup next year. Antoine can be a weapon as well but has to improve her pitch selection and learn how to bunt. Whoever taught her how to bunt needs some serious evaluations of their teachings. 

There were 4 players who hit below .250 last season. Schlattman at least improved dramatically at the end of the season so I am a little optimistic. Sanchez made some clutch big time hits for us but just hasn't hit for any type of consistency her entire career here. Not sure what is up with Serrett, she hit .300 freshmen year, .260 sophomore season, and .230 junior year, it makes no sense. As for 2B, we need a new 2B is all I have to say, if Schulte is starting next season there is a major red flag. 

New players will be the ones to watch, its a large recruiting class coming in. I think Clark is your best incoming player. Plug her into 1B and let her hit .300 with a lot of extra base hits. She truly is a major weapon at the plate and needs to play. That last OF spot will be wide open between the freshmen and returners. 

Anyways, if LSU wants the best bats in the lineup, people will have to move positions. Doyle will need to move to 3B to make room for Clark and so that Sunseri can DH. I am trying to hold out hope that this happens but Torina seems to write her lineups with sharpies over the years. Maybe she will finally prove me wrong for once


I really hope Tidwell surprises everyone and wins 2B, she does have a lot of pop in her bat but not sure how she will transition to this level. She focused on softball only her senior year and it worked it looks like
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Amanda Sanchez rumors of looking strongly at LSU appear to be picking up steam as well.... would be a big grab if it actually happens


She is visiting Oregon right now
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Amanda Sanchez rumors of looking strongly at LSU appear to be picking up steam as well.... would be a big grab if it actually happens


She is visiting Oregon right now
might be prudent to see if Texas hires White away from Oregon.

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Tigerbait357

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Is Texas actually trying to get Mike White? 
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Amanda Sanchez rumors of looking strongly at LSU appear to be picking up steam as well.... would be a big grab if it actually happens


She is visiting Oregon right now


Perhaps she will come to BR and y’all can get rid of the irritating brother lol.
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might be prudent to see if Texas hires White away from Oregon.


And why would this happen?
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Perhaps she will come to BR and y’all can get rid of the irritating brother lol.



Torina would NEVER been Shemiah Sanchez


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Torina would NEVER been Shemiah Sanchez




Then why would the Mizzou kid come to BR knowing that?

Why would Torina want to stick with an inferior player?

Excellent pitching sometimes hides weak offensive play.

Perhaps with new / young pitching staff she will have to play players that will produce.
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Then why would the Mizzou kid come to BR knowing that?

Why would Torina want to stick with an inferior player?

Excellent pitching sometimes hides weak offensive play.

Perhaps with new / young pitching staff she will have to play players that will produce.


Who knows what has been told. Can Sanchez not play 2B? 

One would hope that with the losses of our two senior all American pitchers, there would be a sense of urgency to put the best bats in the lineup for once
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Perhaps she will come to BR and y’all can get rid of the irritating brother lol.


Wrong Sanchez
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What year will she be in the 18/19 season?
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Wrong Sanchez


The kid that played 3rd this year has the brother that is an absolute idiot correct?
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And why would this happen?


It's not going to happen. Mike White LOVES Oregon, he's not going to leave to go to Texas. 
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The kid that played 3rd this year has the brother that is an absolute idiot correct?


That is Shemiah Sanchez.
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It's not going to happen. Mike White LOVES Oregon, he's not going to leave to go to Texas. 


I don't see White leaving either.
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It's not going to happen. Mike White LOVES Oregon, he's not going to leave to go to Texas. 


I don't see White leaving either.
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That is Shemiah Sanchez.



Yes and she is the player who has the obnoxious brother

The other poster was implying if Amanda Sanchez came here and started over Shemiah, the brother would stop attending games

He would not make trips across the states to watch his sister on the bench, he only started coming after she started
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Yes and she is the player who has the obnoxious brother

The other poster was implying if Amanda Sanchez came here and started over Shemiah, the brother would stop attending games

He would not make trips across the states to watch his sister on the bench, he only started coming after she started


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It's not going to happen. Mike White LOVES Oregon, he's not going to leave to go to Texas. 


I will say this... if they offer him three times what he is getting paid now and he doesn't go.... he will never go.

That would be fine by me
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If Amanda Sanchez does come, my ideal lineup

1. Andrews-CF
2. Antoine-RF
3. Doyle-3B
4. A Sanchez- 2B
5. Sunseri-DP
6. Clark-1B
7. Schlattman- C
8. Serrett-SS
9. Stewart-LF

That though would put Shemiah Sanchez and Becca Schulte on the bench. Clark NEEDS to be somewhere in the lineup as well as Sunseri so multiple people would need to be benched. Or you could put Doyle at 2B and Sanchez at 3rd. I think Doyle is great at 3rd but has played mostly 1B


Pitching
1. Gorsuch
2. Kilponen
3. Sunseri
4. Wickersham (Ball is too flat at the moment... BUT she can fix some stuff and be very successful)

We still will need multiple kids this offseason to develop a lot more at the plate. I hope we do something different then what we have done these last few years with the hitters

Hopefully the major losses on the mound is a major wake up call to get serious about the hitting and overall production of position players. 
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What year will she be in the 18/19 season?



Amanda Sanchez?

Grad transfer redshirt senior



Shemiah Sanchez- just a senior
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Amanda Sanchez?

Grad transfer redshirt senior



Shemiah Sanchez- just a senior


So, there is a rumor on the "transfer" thread that Amanda Sanchez is currently visiting Eugene, Oregon.
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It's not going to happen. Mike White LOVES Oregon, he's not going to leave to go to Texas. 

Oh yeah he would LOVE July and August in Austin ...lol


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If Torina fires Dobson who are good candidates available for the position? 
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If Torina fires Dobson who are good candidates available for the position? 


Who was Mizzou's hitting coach, they can clearly swing the bats, and with Anderson going there, who knows if they stay?
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Who was Mizzou's hitting coach, they can clearly swing the bats, and with Anderson going there, who knows if they stay?


Was it Adam  LaLonde? I think thats his name, I think that was who primarily worked with the hitters

The hitters seemed to improved and put up a lot of extra base hits, wouldn't be the worst option out there. 

I am not sure at what point Torina would look to make a change. I imagine if this year does not go well, Dobson would be in some deep $HIT. The top hitters in program history were committed to the last coach prior to Torina's arrival. Dobson should get credit for their success here but at the same time, it looks like evaluation of hitters has been a major struggle for the most part since then. 

No offense to Torina but how much does she really know about swinging a bat? I don't doubt her when it comes to pitchers at all. I heard Leftwich and Dobson primarily are the ones who evaluate the hitters/position players. 
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Was it Adam  LaLonde? I think thats his name, I think that was who primarily worked with the hitters

The hitters seemed to improved and put up a lot of extra base hits, wouldn't be the worst option out there. 

I am not sure at what point Torina would look to make a change. I imagine if this year does not go well, Dobson would be in some deep $HIT. The top hitters in program history were committed to the last coach prior to Torina's arrival. Dobson should get credit for their success here but at the same time, it looks like evaluation of hitters has been a major struggle for the most part since then. 

No offense to Torina but how much does she really know about swinging a bat? I don't doubt her when it comes to pitchers at all. I heard Leftwich and Dobson primarily are the ones who evaluate the hitters/position players. 


I don't think she knows anything about it. She only works with pitching from what i've heard, and she has only every played pitcher.
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