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pabar61

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Dewey with more lies.  Pretending that an opinion piece from the radically leftist MotherJones is a news article.  Typical dishonest Dewey.

Obama lied, people in Benghazi died.

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http://www.nytimes.com/projects/2013/benghazi/index.html#/?chapt=0

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newsguard says motherjones is bunk


Lie. I get green light.

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
pabar61

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And Dewey thinks the New York Times is any better than MotherJones.  Idiot.  NYT is 100% left 100% of the time.
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TheNarrator

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Mother jones - was kos not available?

Of course protesters joined in after - Americans were getting killed.

Reports indicate no protest at the embassy before the attack.
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You know his positions are weak when he doesn’t pull out the parts that help his false argument.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/house-report-cia-military-acted-properly-in-benghazi-attacks-1416616698

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The best thing President Trump has done to date is anger Sen McCain into voting thumbs down on the repeal of Obamacare. 


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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You know his positions are weak when he doesn’t pull out the parts that help his false argument.
Fresh

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NY Times is "The Boss". You have no idea how lucky you are to have people like this saving your ignorant a$$ from people like trump. They have you completely sucked in and you won't realize how stupid you were for years. Thankfully, we are here to turn the tide and get us(this includes you) out of this mess. The swamp has briefly taken over, but will be drained. 
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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
TheNarrator

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This is an adult thread fresh - run along and accuse someone else of wanting someone raped.

Do it to their face though.
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Hey Dewey - you should have the balls to post under your real name and engage in discussion instead of just posting misleading links like the last one that says the CIA and military were fine in Benghazi.  It's your idol Obama and his drag queen Hillary that let those Americans die and then lied to the country about it.



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Will I Wynn is a poster who used to go by the name of Dewey.  He used to criticize people who did that.

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Fresh

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You are sad. You can twist anything to your distorted vision of right and wrong. For the last time.......your insinuation that Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick is solely based on using it to defame him. Her word is the only substantiation. If he didn't do it, you'll have to find something else. Easier to say he raped her, hope he raped her, to support your inaccurate portrayal of him. I would never suggest you would wish for someone to be raped. Not even KIR would wish that on anyone. Well, I don't think he would.

How do you feel about the claims from Ford about Kavanaugh? Are they any more or less believable? He said, she said.

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
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You said the words, don’t try to dewflect now - it’s as sad and disgusting now as it was then.

This woman deserves to have her story heard. I would have to compare the two claims closer. Is there another claim against kavanaugh like there was for Clinton? I am not aware.
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Here's a black man talking about the backlash that blacks who support Trump face.  Leftists are the true racists and always have been back to the days of slavery.




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Have you seen the backlash intelligence agents, FBI agents, Democrats, former personal attorneys, Republicans, pundits, and former cabinet officials receive when they don’t support Trump? Rightists are brutal.



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The best thing President Trump has done to date is anger Sen McCain into voting thumbs down on the repeal of Obamacare. 


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Originally Posted by pabar61
Hey Dewey - you should have the balls to post under your real name and engage in discussion instead of just posting misleading links like the last one that says the CIA and military were fine in Benghazi.  It's your idol Obama and his drag queen Hillary that let those Americans die and then lied to the country about it.





Will is dewey. 

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keepinitreal

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Will is dewey. 


 

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Shut up doofus. Not talking to you. 
 
Fresh

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You said the words, don’t try to dewflect now - it’s as sad and disgusting now as it was then.

This woman deserves to have her story heard. I would have to compare the two claims closer. Is there another claim against kavanaugh like there was for Clinton? I am not aware.


So, is it quality of or quantity of claims?

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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
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If the Republicans on the committee determine these accusations should be investigated, who does the investigation? Trump and those lawyers here say it can’t be the FBI. Really?


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The best thing President Trump has done to date is anger Sen McCain into voting thumbs down on the repeal of Obamacare. 


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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If the Republicans on the committee determine these accusations should be investigated, who does the investigation? Trump and those lawyers here say it can’t be the FBI. Really?



See the other thread Dewey.  FBI are the ones who said they can't.  Republicans will only tolerate Ford testifying in front of them.  There will be no investigation because there's nothing to investigate.

The better question is why nobody is investigating the assault charges against the Socialist Muslim Keith Ellison.

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Lie. I get green light.

I thought your internet was perpetually broken.

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Of course the FBI cannnot.  It has to be a criminal investigation for them to get involved.
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There were no protestors?  

They guys with the SAWs and the RPGs, they were protestors or not protestors?

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So, is it quality of or quantity of claims?


Yes.

The claims in the Clintons cases seem to be a little more solid. They remember what year it was and Clinton wasn’t a minor.
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Of course you think that. I think differently. Neither of us has the evidence to prove otherwise, just our perception of events leading up to the charges. You, however, have drawn a conclusion and present it as fact. That's why a jury isn't made up of 1 person.
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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
TheNarrator

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I said seem - maybe you missed that?

Kavanaugh was a minor, in high school. Clinton was a grown man with a propensity for such behavior.

Not even close to the same.
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...the purpose of this post is to share a personal opinion saying the biggest lie in our Country today may be the new definition of "lie" being offered up by the Right. 

An opinion somebody disagrees with is now a lie.  If somebody believes what they say and others think they're wrong, then it's defined as a lie.  If you said there was a heaven, someone could say you lied.  Campaign promises not fulfilled are called lies just as failed predictions get the same label.  These have become the new definitions made up by the Right in order to use "lie" to denigrate the opposition and gain political capital.  The true definition, the one the Right ignores at every turn, remains "purposely saying something you know to be untrue". 

In any event, "lie" is the new political weapon of our day, including in this forum, and it would seem wise for Americans to understand why the word "lie" is used so often in a deliberate and inaccurate fashion.


I'll use three examples which I think could be described as a lie:

I think Trump told a lie about Obama maybe being born outside the Country.  I think he knew this wasn't true and I think he had the evidence in his possession to prove it.

I think Trump told a lie when he said millions of illegals voted.  I think he knew this number to be untrue and knew how to confirm the false claim.

I think we all know he lied when he said he didn't have anything to do with the response letter provided by his son.

Even having strong confidence someone is lying, I still think it's a very bad practice to call someone a liar unless the accuser knows the facts for certain.  Better in my opinion to call it fabricated or unsubstantiated.  However, I don't think the Right is going to adopt my opinion anytime soon.



Once again a reminder that an opinion cannot be a lie unless statements known to be untrue by the author are made.  Secondly, if a website allows an individual to write an opinion, and it turns out the individual lies, the website is not posting fake news.  They're just giving an author an outlet to present their thoughts.


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The best thing President Trump has done to date is anger Sen McCain into voting thumbs down on the repeal of Obamacare. 


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


TheNarrator

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Obama told the lie of the year
Will_I_Wynn

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Only in a world where a journalist with an opinion is allowed to be the judge and jury.

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The best thing President Trump has done to date is anger Sen McCain into voting thumbs down on the repeal of Obamacare. 


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Originally Posted by pabar61
Dewey with more lies.  Pretending that an opinion piece from the radically leftist MotherJones is a news article.  Typical dishonest Dewey.

Obama lied, people in Benghazi died.
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